Morrowind: now is a chance to show up a dragon!

KochDerDamonen · March 2017

No thanks.

SydneyGrey · March 2017

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Now, Lore aside, ZoS has already explained that the mechanics of the coding of ESO is a horizontal based code and not able to accommodate vertical mechanics such as flying, flying mounts or diving underwater.

They have limited flying, though, with things like the twilights. They just don't fly very high.

Enodoc · March 2017

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

I don't object to a lore-friendly dragon appearance, but I think having one show up in Vvardenfell would be more a distraction than anything: we already have the Tribunal and Red Mountain to focus on. And inter-House politics. And the Morag Tong. And...you get the idea.

...and a falling meteor. Y'know, that fiery thing in the sky that's quite important right now... as it seems to be getting closer...

JKorr · March 2017

If they EVER allow a dragon to show up in the game, two things will immediately occur.

People will immediately kill it. No amount of rewards for talking to it and leaving it alive will stop this behavior. Making it a boss will make sure that as many people as possible will be waiting to run it, camping it, or complaining about not being able to kill it.

If they make it unkillable, the rage will be even more vocal.

Second, some people will attempt to make it a mount, with the accompanying forums rants.

faerigirl · March 2017

I think it would be funny if the dev's dropped a dragon in the middle of a town just for fun

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crashen17b14_ESO · March 2017

Yes, there are dragons alive in this timeline, and a few survive even longer. Do you know how they survived so long? By not interacting with mortals. By staying far, far, far away from people.

My question, to all these people crying out for a dragon... is why? Why do you want a dragon in eso? What do you want with it? What do you want it to bring to the game?

Ralen · March 2017

*sigh*

What's this nevrotic need to see dragons in ESO ?... Thank you Skyrim to had create this false perspective that Elder Scrolls = ******* dragons.

Please, move on...

Zardayne · March 2017

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Milvan wrote: »

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

I agree, dragons exist in this time period, but they are hidden, and rare, and have no interaction with man or mer, and will not be seen till around 2E869 with Tiber Septim, and that is only 1 dragon. Then we will have to wait till 4E201 to see another one emerge.

Dragons maintain relations with other races eventually like Nahfahlaar (allied with King Casimir II of Wayrest and others), Nafaalilargus (allied with Tiber Septim) and Pathurnaax - himself have his greybeards pets. ZOS can make it happen, and lorewisely if they want to. They have the pen and the paper, they just have to put their storytellers to work.

The examples you show are the same thing I said, as Nahfahlaar does not show up for over 300 years from now (ESO time line). I agree they are around, but maintain that they have no place in this era of the game.

Zardayne wrote: »

Zenimax shot itself in the foot when it chose an age that removed dragons from play...

Not sure what you mean by this.
Out of 10 TES games,, dragons are only in 2, Redguard and Skyrim.
And it seems that only the "Skyrim" generation are always the ones that ask for dragons.
Now, Lore aside, ZoS has already explained that the mechanics of the coding of ESO is a horizontal based code and not able to accommodate vertical mechanics such as flying, flying mounts or diving underwater. (See ESO-Live Episode 17, 05/08/2015). So no to dragon mounts also.

I'm not the skyrim generation. I began my dungeon crawling in AD&D second edition back in the early 80s. Not only that I'm a huge dragonlance fan. Please don't assume because I'd love to see fantastic dragons it's because of Skyrin. Hell I didn't even finish Skyrim..

What I meant was crossing out the possibility of adding mythical dragons and not adding more variety in monstrous epic beasts hurts the game . In my opinion, daedric titans over and over doesn't cut it...

Milvan · March 2017

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

If they want to add a lore-friendly dragon in Wardenfell (even though I personally wouldn't want to see one) - at least make it a proper dragon and not a wyvern à la Skyrim.

THE MORE YOU KNOW MOMENT:

Stop this D&D monster manual nosense.

Since there is no official taxonomy of a dragon, you know, because there are mythological creatures. You can't actually say that what's a dragon and what's is not. THE AUTHOR DEFINES WHATS HIS/HER DRAGON LOOKS LIKE.

Also, wyverns, wyrms, dragons, drakes etc are the same name for the same creature in several authors like Tolkien, Elder Scrolls lore, and many others mythologies including japanese, nordic, european(curiosly including the bible, where they are described as "serpent'ish" like D&D wyrms).

For the eight and our yet to be born lord and savior Talos.

Dark_Lord_Kuro · March 2017

Milvan wrote: »

Hello comrades.

As the Atlas of Dragons (2E 373 by Brother Mathnan, prior ESO events) states:

"(...)
Known to Live
Ahbiilok - Sightings dating back to the early years of the Dragonguard throughout the northern Jerralls. Multiple attempts to kill him have failed. He is believed to be lairing somewhere in Morrowind.
(...)"

And Twin Secrets (4E 5~, by Brarilu Theran) also confirms that there is a dragon in Morrowind:

"In my life, I've traveled widely. I've seen Summerset Isle, communed with Psijiics, walked the shores of Akavir. I had hoped to see lost Atmora before I passed, that is not to be. I have even done the unthinkable. I have spoken to a dragon.

Dragons are said to be gone from the world. Yet I found one. Sheltered in the smoking ruins of Vvardenfell, I came upon it. My magic proved to be sufficient to defeat the beast. If that gives you cause to wonder, I will not deny that I was once a pyromancer of great skill.

Exhausted and near the end of my spells, I parlayed with the wyrm, offering it life if it would share it's secrets. Haughty to the end, it agreed to one secret for one life. I asked for it's [sic] name, but it told me it would rather die than surrender that. Instead if [sic] offered me something else. And that it [sic] how I learned how to defy the Law of Firsts.

So, since having dragons on ESO is completely lorewise , (check the both aforemetioned books and many others), I think that Morrowind is a excelent opportunity to show up a mighty dragon and giving us a epic fight with one of Alduin's soldier.

EDIT: Indeed, we don't need to fight it, even tho we fight it we don't need to kill it. Since the author of Twin Secrets himself bargained with the dragon, maybe the Ahbiilok likes to bargains his life for secrets as happened with Brarilu Theran. He is a survivor after all since he made out of Dragon War and the Akaviri crusades of the First Era. A petty dragon that sell secrets of his kind in order to be kept alive. That would be a great plot.

The Dragonguard is still out there, fighting for the empire (I believe) and waiting for the next Dragonborn, they tried to kill Ahbiilok before, would they just stop trying?

And there is the one in the soul cairn who come back even if killed by the dragonborn

Oakmontowls_ESO · March 2017

As I have said before on similar threads, there is a completely lore friendly way to have a dragon boss. Since we have datamined something about a nord dlc dungeon pack like shadows of the Hist, there could be a dungeon where you are investigating a dragon mound and find a powerful necromancer trying to res a dragon. One thing leads to another and you encounter the final boss in a room with a dragon skeleton. Once you get the boss to a certain hp he realizes that you are too strong so he transfers all of his life energy into the dragon skeleton which is now the new final boss. The dragon could either not be able to fly at all or would be invincible while flying requiring you to use the conveniently placed anti air siege equipment (no aiming just a synergy) to temporarily destroy the dragon's wings so you could attack it. The dragon would periodically regenerate it's wings requiring you to destroy them again.
Boom a way to fight and kill a dragon within the confines of the lore.

crashen17b14_ESO · March 2017

I still want to know WHY dragons? Is it just because this is a fantasy game and must therefor be subject to all tired cliches, especially in light of Skyrim?

Do you just want "a really big epic boss fight?" Ig so, what is wrong with Daedric Titans? They are, for all intents and purposes, dragons.

There are so few dragons left alive in Tamriel right now, and they are one of the few legendary creatures (or at least they were until skyrim stripped them of all mystery). Do you really want to reduce them to just another raid/group boss endlessly farmed for some piece of loot with the right trait?

I feel like people asking for dragons are just like the people asking for playable dwemer, and wanting to know what happened to them. They want these things because conventional fantasy settings have them, and it would be "cool", but they dont care that TES is not quite conventional fantasy.

geonsocal · March 2017

aliyavana wrote: »

Zardayne wrote: »

Zenimax shot itself in the foot when it chose an age that removed dragons from play...

Daedric titans are close enough

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh - no they are not :'(

geonsocal · March 2017

Dark_Claw wrote: »

What's with the dragon obsession? They were an annoyance in Skyrim and I'm personally happy to see the back of them.

very worthy opponents, plus they look super cool...and, um - please tell more about your interest in dragon butts

Browiseth wrote: »

no one cares

please shut up about dragons eso players we get it you played skyrim we all did haven't we had enough shameless fanservice

not gonna happen

Kodrac · March 2017

Dragon threads everywhere... Vampire threads everywhere...

Ooooh Vampire Dragons!

Mind blown.

geonsocal · March 2017

PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »

If they want to add a lore-friendly dragon in Wardenfell (even though I personally wouldn't want to see one) - at least make it a proper dragon and not a wyvern à la Skyrim.

pics please

geonsocal · March 2017

Ralen wrote: »

Please, move on...

yep, let me just climb on the neck of my dragon mount, and off we go...

Muramasa89 · March 2017

Daedric titans are to dragons as orcs are to elves or trolls to ents in LOTR. AKA big baddy is mad he doesn't control a powerful thing so he decides to make his own version (which is literally the case from the snippet of lore I read on the creation of the daedric titan).

Acrolas · March 2017

Zardayne wrote: »

Zenimax shot itself in the foot when it chose an age that removed dragons from play...

Bethesda shot first by calling them dragons instead of wyverns.

Now even *** Game of Thrones has wyverns parading themselves as dragons.

It's kind of sad when the most iconic actual dragons I can think of at this point are Granamyr and Elliott. I'd say Smaug, but the movie made him into, surprise surprise, a wyvern.

Milvan wrote: »

Stop this D&D monster manual nosense.

It's actually not. Dragons and wyverns have a historical medieval heraldry distinction that is both documented and consistent.

Gargath · March 2017

I doubt that ZOS could create such magnificent powerful yet kind and smart beasts we've witnessed in Skyrim. ESO isn't the kind of game where living dragons should exist. While I'd like to see Paarthurnax again, I rather will start Skyrim again to talk with him personally on the mountain peak than with a bunch of other players ruining my immersion around.

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Rohamad_Ali · March 2017

Kodrac wrote: »

Dragon threads everywhere... Vampire threads everywhere...

Ooooh Vampire Dragons!

Mind blown.

Vampire dragon ? How would it fit on the shrine to get a bite ? An that cave to do the quest is pretty small . Lamae would have to redecorate the whole place .

WhiteCoatSyndrome · March 2017

@Enodoc I did say Tribunal. Remember, the reason we have to deal with the flaming meteor is because Vivec hasn't been feeding his pet rock its daily requirement of divine power.

Kendaric · March 2017

Kodrac wrote: »

Dragon threads everywhere... Vampire threads everywhere...

Ooooh Vampire Dragons!

Mind blown.

Be thankful people aren't asking for weredragons...

Nelson_Rebel · March 2017

souravami wrote: »

Is Rakkhat a daedric titan or a grievous twilight?

A grievous twilight, albeit far stronger than the average lol

AtraisMachina · March 2017

Milvan wrote: »

Hello comrades.

As the Atlas of Dragons (2E 373 by Brother Mathnan, prior ESO events) states:

"(...)
Known to Live
Ahbiilok - Sightings dating back to the early years of the Dragonguard throughout the northern Jerralls. Multiple attempts to kill him have failed. He is believed to be lairing somewhere in Morrowind.
(...)"

And Twin Secrets (4E 5~, by Brarilu Theran) also confirms that there is a dragon in Morrowind:

"In my life, I've traveled widely. I've seen Summerset Isle, communed with Psijiics, walked the shores of Akavir. I had hoped to see lost Atmora before I passed, that is not to be. I have even done the unthinkable. I have spoken to a dragon.

Dragons are said to be gone from the world. Yet I found one. Sheltered in the smoking ruins of Vvardenfell, I came upon it. My magic proved to be sufficient to defeat the beast. If that gives you cause to wonder, I will not deny that I was once a pyromancer of great skill.

Exhausted and near the end of my spells, I parlayed with the wyrm, offering it life if it would share it's secrets. Haughty to the end, it agreed to one secret for one life. I asked for it's [sic] name, but it told me it would rather die than surrender that. Instead if [sic] offered me something else. And that it [sic] how I learned how to defy the Law of Firsts.

So, since having dragons on ESO is completely lorewise , (check the both aforemetioned books and many others), I think that Morrowind is a excelent opportunity to show up a mighty dragon and giving us a epic fight with one of Alduin's soldier.

EDIT: Indeed, we don't need to fight it, even tho we fight it we don't need to kill it. Since the author of Twin Secrets himself bargained with the dragon, maybe the Ahbiilok likes to bargains his life for secrets as happened with Brarilu Theran. He is a survivor after all since he made out of Dragon War and the Akaviri crusades of the First Era. A petty dragon that sell secrets of his kind in order to be kept alive. That would be a great plot.

The Dragonguard is still out there, fighting for the empire (I believe) and waiting for the next Dragonborn, they tried to kill Ahbiilok before, would they just stop trying?

Dont care fix trials.

klowdy1 · March 2017

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. People are gonna hate how TES6 isn't Skyrim 2.

Skyrim was fun, but it took the franchise away from all of the games before it. They tried to appeal to too large of a playerbase. I am looking forward to ES6 getting back on track with Morrowind.

JKorr · March 2017

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

Milvan wrote: »

Hello comrades.

As the Atlas of Dragons (2E 373 by Brother Mathnan, prior ESO events) states:

"(...)
Known to Live
Ahbiilok - Sightings dating back to the early years of the Dragonguard throughout the northern Jerralls. Multiple attempts to kill him have failed. He is believed to be lairing somewhere in Morrowind.
(...)"

And Twin Secrets (4E 5~, by Brarilu Theran) also confirms that there is a dragon in Morrowind:

"In my life, I've traveled widely. I've seen Summerset Isle, communed with Psijiics, walked the shores of Akavir. I had hoped to see lost Atmora before I passed, that is not to be. I have even done the unthinkable. I have spoken to a dragon.

Dragons are said to be gone from the world. Yet I found one. Sheltered in the smoking ruins of Vvardenfell, I came upon it. My magic proved to be sufficient to defeat the beast. If that gives you cause to wonder, I will not deny that I was once a pyromancer of great skill.

Exhausted and near the end of my spells, I parlayed with the wyrm, offering it life if it would share it's secrets. Haughty to the end, it agreed to one secret for one life. I asked for it's [sic] name, but it told me it would rather die than surrender that. Instead if [sic] offered me something else. And that it [sic] how I learned how to defy the Law of Firsts.

So, since having dragons on ESO is completely lorewise , (check the both aforemetioned books and many others), I think that Morrowind is a excelent opportunity to show up a mighty dragon and giving us a epic fight with one of Alduin's soldier.

EDIT: Indeed, we don't need to fight it, even tho we fight it we don't need to kill it. Since the author of Twin Secrets himself bargained with the dragon, maybe the Ahbiilok likes to bargains his life for secrets as happened with Brarilu Theran. He is a survivor after all since he made out of Dragon War and the Akaviri crusades of the First Era. A petty dragon that sell secrets of his kind in order to be kept alive. That would be a great plot.

The Dragonguard is still out there, fighting for the empire (I believe) and waiting for the next Dragonborn, they tried to kill Ahbiilok before, would they just stop trying?

And there is the one in the soul cairn who come back even if killed by the dragonborn

The Powers in the Soul Cairn don't allow him out, remember? The Dragonborn has to learn his name to allow him a brief "vacation" back in the world. No one to summon him, no dragon.

ShedsHisTail · March 2017

Dragons were the worst thing about Skyrim.
They were one more step in making one of the most unique fantasy franchises on the market more homogenous with every other piece of generic junk available. No dragons in ES:O please.

Also, Hi, I'm back.