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no Assistants in pvp zone...this doesn't make sense

Lyserus
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Face a Daedra Prince in his realm
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But I won't go to cyrodill <_< (Too dangerous???? You assistants face every damned legendary mobs and you are afriad of ppl?)
  • Lyserus
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    I know that for game play wise this is to prevent ppl use assistants to take out pvp equipments and store tel var....but hey why don't we make everyone's lives easier :|
  • Ghettokid
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    I would like to take banker in IC and when I see danger I let her to hold my tel var for a while.
  • raidentenshu_ESO
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    Cyrodill sucks thats why.
  • Lyserus
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    Ghettokid wrote: »
    I would like to take banker in IC and when I see danger I let her to hold my tel var for a while.

    yeah i mean this shouldn't even be considered as a bad thing....you need them on you so you can gain more stones, and when there are immediate danger you won't be able to store them anyway
  • Lyserus
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    Cyrodill sucks thats why.

    how so?? First it's not like ppl will clear their whole bank to store siege weapons, second they won't be able to take during a combat, third players on your side can store their things in bank too
  • Phinix1
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    They had to remove deer and torchbugs from Cyrodiil to try and improve performance. Somehow I don't think having every player become 3 with their crown minions out would help things.
  • Lyserus
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    Phinix1 wrote: »
    They had to remove deer and torchbugs from Cyrodiil to try and improve performance. Somehow I don't think having every player become 3 with their crown minions out would help things.

    ......really it's that bad now :| so this is actually more of a performance issue than a game play issue?
  • Ghettokid
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    Cyrodill sucks thats why.
    Really?
    I would like to have this Cyrodills mobile number.
  • Phinix1
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    Performance in Cyrodiil has always been pretty terrible when you get more than 25 vs. 25 happening.

    Although it's just a theory. Now that I think about it minions are immune to damage so there shouldn't be additional server load calculating damage for them.

    It may just be about not wanting to clutter things up or like someone else said, not wanting to give anyone an advantage that might be construed as "pay to win."
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    Lyserus wrote: »
    Phinix1 wrote: »
    They had to remove deer and torchbugs from Cyrodiil to try and improve performance. Somehow I don't think having every player become 3 with their crown minions out would help things.

    ......really it's that bad now :| so this is actually more of a performance issue than a game play issue?

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  • Luigi_Vampa
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    The assistants are carebears.
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  • rotaugen454
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    It's obviously so you can't bank your stones. How about they allow the banker, but if you die, they can loot your bank account?
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  • MissBizz
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    It's obviously so you can't bank your stones. How about they allow the banker, but if you die, they can loot your bank account?

    Also because your assistant is really a "pet"...

    And pets aren't allowed in Cyrodiil. Heck, even wild deer aren't allowed.
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  • nimander99
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    >Go to Cyrodiil
    >Cant summon pet
    >Tries to summon inter-actable pet
    >Doesn't understand why neither summon
    >Goes to forum to complain

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  • TBois
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    The assistants heard what happened to the deer in cyrodiil...
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  • driosketch
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    Lyserus wrote: »
    Phinix1 wrote: »
    They had to remove deer and torchbugs from Cyrodiil to try and improve performance. Somehow I don't think having every player become 3 with their crown minions out would help things.

    ......really it's that bad now :| so this is actually more of a performance issue than a game play issue?

    It's a little of column A, and a little of column B. Assistants work off the noncombat pet system which was originally disabled in PvP because there were issues getting them to stealth correctly. Today things like the momento system are disabled for performance reasons.
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  • idk
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    Pets are not permitted into Cyrodiil for performance reasons. Banker is a fancy pet.

    The point some make concerning IC is a solid reason to keep them out of IC.
    Edited by idk on March 29, 2017 6:38PM
  • Lyserus
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    driosketch wrote: »
    Lyserus wrote: »
    Phinix1 wrote: »
    They had to remove deer and torchbugs from Cyrodiil to try and improve performance. Somehow I don't think having every player become 3 with their crown minions out would help things.

    ......really it's that bad now :| so this is actually more of a performance issue than a game play issue?

    It's a little of column A, and a little of column B. Assistants work off the noncombat pet system which was originally disabled in PvP because there were issues getting them to stealth correctly. Today things like the momento system are disabled for performance reasons.

    ohhh so that's why i can't eat pie in pvp
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    Lyserus wrote: »
    I will go down to ruins for ya (All sorts of ruins)
    Throw myself down from the cliff for ya (Vault of madness)
    I'd face a titan for ya (city of ash)
    You know I'd do anything for ya

    I would go through all this pain
    Face a Daedra Prince in his realm
    Yes, I would die for ya, baby
    But I won't go to cyrodill <_< (Too dangerous???? You assistants face every damned legendary mobs and you are afriad of ppl?)

    PEOPLE WOULD GET RICH TOO FAST! and then no one could GANK! ESO wants a very even playing Field . Tel var would be super easy solo
  • LuminaLilly
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    Same reason why no pets allowed in Cyrodiil, LAAAAAAAAAAAAAG

    Grand warlord Zimmerman be like "welcome warrior, time to face ad and DC head on, but that fox you paid $7.99 for needs to wait outside"
    Edited by LuminaLilly on March 29, 2017 6:46PM
  • BlueRaven
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    I can think of a number of reasons why the assistants are not allowed.

    1) 1 believe they (ZOS) disabled non combat pets because of stealth reasons (The pets were not disappearing from what I understand). So having a assistant out (which is a kind of a non combat pet when you think about it) may give away your position.

    2) Perhaps they disabled assistants so players will not have an advantage in being able to store large amounts of gear or siege equipment. (Rats, I am out of Forward camps! Oh wait, I may have some in my bank!) Having that banker, which is only available as an option with real money only, will give some players a real advantage and feels a bit like "buy to win".

    3) "Let's gank that guy he is traveling alone. Oh Wait! There are two of them! Let them pass we can look for an easier target." Or "There are two players guarding the mill. Or is it one and a banker. No wait it is two... Or maybe one..."
    Or "There is 20 attackers at the mine!.. Or maybe ten players with assistants!... Same thing, right?"

    4) "Dude, I just wasted a group healing you because I though there was two players there! Don't have your banker out noob!"

    5) Performance issues, etc.
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    It's obviously so you can't bank your stones. How about they allow the banker, but if you die, they can loot your bank account?

    Also because your assistant is really a "pet"...

    And pets aren't allowed in Cyrodiil. Heck, even wild deer aren't allowed.

    you know it's equal opportunity when deer were removed....I guess next are NPCs
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  • LuminaLilly
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    It's obviously so you can't bank your stones. How about they allow the banker, but if you die, they can loot your bank account?

    Also because your assistant is really a "pet"...

    And pets aren't allowed in Cyrodiil. Heck, even wild deer aren't allowed.

    Maybe it's for immersion, I'm sure innocent deer would flee instances of intense violence.
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    If you have a cosmetic pet out and you summon an assistant, the pet goes away until you dismiss the assistant.

    So the game treats assistants the same as pets. And since pets aren't allowed....

    Well, anyway, ZOS would have to separate the two so that you could have a pet and an assistant at the same time.

    And then everyone would have a banker or merchant following them around defeating the entire point of not having pets and deer and moose and squirrel in Cyrodiil.
    Edited by Tabbycat on March 30, 2017 12:46AM
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  • geonsocal
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    i so want to try to kill someone while they are standing at a resource "immersed" in some transaction with one of their assistants...that would be hilarious...

    still haven't got anyone talking to a seige merchant or quest giver :(
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  • LuminaLilly
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    I can see it now. A Ganker chilling "oh snap I see a person solo, let me get my cheese dueling build *summons banker, withdraws gear, puts on cheese build* lets go!"
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    driosketch wrote: »
    Lyserus wrote: »
    Phinix1 wrote: »
    They had to remove deer and torchbugs from Cyrodiil to try and improve performance. Somehow I don't think having every player become 3 with their crown minions out would help things.

    ......really it's that bad now :| so this is actually more of a performance issue than a game play issue?

    It's a little of column A, and a little of column B. Assistants work off the noncombat pet system which was originally disabled in PvP because there were issues getting them to stealth correctly. Today things like the momento system are disabled for performance reasons.
    LoL remember after launch, pets did not stealth so we saw an group of monkeys and an clanfear moving around.

    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • LadyDestiny
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    Lyserus wrote: »
    I know that for game play wise this is to prevent ppl use assistants to take out pvp equipments and store tel var....but hey why don't we make everyone's lives easier :|

    Just end tel var theft....end of problem. Stupid idea letting people take other peoples stones anyway.
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