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TRIALS BROKEN..AGAIN.

CBixby
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V Hel ra, don't ever play during night time (constant lag outs). Bottom boss disappears after a wipe. Also you don't get your points for top boss if you complete at the same time as bottom boss. Sorc pets count as a person when you go through doors, locking someone out of bottom boss.

VMOL -broken nearly entirely. Lag outs at first add pull, first boss, twins (most annoying) next add pull, hallway, and rakkaht (I lied, this is most annoying)!

VAA HM- very choppy frame rate, pets cause chain lightning (not sure if they should?). Not everyone gets teleported on teleport pads at add pulls.

These are my observations during trials since homestead launched on Xbox NA, guildees and I have been reporting issues but keep being told it's due to our internet. We all live in different parts of the world, it can't be all out our ISP...
  • LiquidPony
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    It's definitely not your internet. There are something like ~20 posts here on the Bug Reports in the past few weeks discussing Trials being broken, especially on console.

    We gave up on Hel Ra the last time it was the weekly (just after Homestead dropped) because we had so many people crash. That's a tough Trial to run when your main tank can't stay in the instance for more than 30 seconds.

    Same with vMoL. We were in the midst of progression on that Trial when Homestead dropped, now we can't even get past the first boss without 15 crashes.
  • Rittings
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    The screen freezing makes trials unplayable right now. Zenimax need to get their crap together on this ASAP... this is end game content... and without it working, you lose ALL your loyal customers. ALL of them.
  • LiquidPony
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    @Rittings I highly doubt that. The raid community is pretty small and there are plenty of loyal customers who PvP, hunt achievements, RP, run dungeons, or just casually frolic around.

    However, it is pretty concerning that the premier content in the game (MoL) and the premier weapon in the game (Maelstrom staff) are both broken. So yeah, you've got a small group of very dedicated players who've spent hundreds of hours farming Maelstrom weapons and practicing as a group to get that vMoL or vMoL HM complete ... and now their weapons don't work and they can't run vMoL at all.

    HRC is the weekly, and my Trials guild will be attempting it tonight, so I'll try to grab some screenshots/videos or some other evidence of its sad, broken state. It was a nightmare the last time we tried it and we just gave up.
    Edited by LiquidPony on March 15, 2017 12:30AM
  • BeardedOrphan
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    Have all the problems you just listed except im on PS4 NA. Trying to run tryouts for my guild but its not possible since we are unable to run trials at all.
    PS4 NA

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    A Bunch of Other Stuff
  • Rittings
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    You highly doubt the community that have been so loyal will leave? Or that all the original customers do trials??

    I tell you this... I'm a guildmaster of a day 1 guild - we started as a multi-content guild, but as the game has gone on we've found that more and more people in the game are at the trial point. Mainly because the gear that drops in that content is Best in Slot in a variety of circumstances.

    Just hit Craglorn and see the amount of "lfg for trials" messages. Pretty much everyone in PVE is building towards it... the streamers online are all about that and PVP. Both of which are currently broken due to freezing and lag spikes and disconnects. They are utterly plagued with it.

    The end is nigh if they don't fix these problems.
  • Cubagaming
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    Preach man! Preach!!!! I've had the same problems in PS4 na.

    All these problems have been going on with my trials group, it's getting frustrating in vmol especially. We have people that we are trying to get skinned and we can't due to prime roles having problems.
  • CBixby
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    Have all the problems you just listed except im on PS4 NA. Trying to run tryouts for my guild but its not possible since we are unable to run trials at all.

    Yup! We have a progression team in our guild to teach others how to run vMOL. We usually try to run with them once a week but it's been on hold since Homestead patch.
    Cubagaming wrote: »
    All these problems have been going on with my trials group, it's getting frustrating in vmol especially. We have people that we are trying to get skinned and we can't due to prime roles having problems.

    Exactly! We tried running vmol the other night but both tanks lagged out over and over and both healers. So we tried Templars slotting BOL and sorcs slotting Inner fire and shields on their Overload bars lol. We just couldn't take it seriously enough to attempt it. Laugh or cry, our only options :(
  • William_AIA
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    V Hel ra, don't ever play during night time (constant lag outs). Bottom boss disappears after a wipe. Also you don't get your points for top boss if you complete at the same time as bottom boss. Sorc pets count as a person when you go through doors, locking someone out of bottom boss.

    VMOL -broken nearly entirely. Lag outs at first add pull, first boss, twins (most annoying) next add pull, hallway, and rakkaht (I lied, this is most annoying)!

    VAA HM- very choppy frame rate, pets cause chain lightning (not sure if they should?). Not everyone gets teleported on teleport pads at add pulls.

    Everything she said. We have game crashes fairly frequently at the Stone Atronach in AA as well. Roughly any time the frame rate starts to drop, someone will crash. And it's always in 'outdoor' environments. Once we get into the room with the Warrior in Hel Ra no one crashes, and Maw past the first boss is not nearly as bad.

    The only playable trial right now on console is Sanctum (a trial almost completely indoor and not subject to changing lighting conditions), and we ran that into the ground already. Most of our progression group has stopped playing because the best endgame content is inaccessible.

    The most important thing to note is that prior to Homestead, these issues didn't exist. Our internet connections are very rarely the issue and you must acknowledge that it's on your end ZOS. PLEASE FIX ASAP!
  • Cubagaming
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    We went into vet aa again tonight. 2 disconnects on the first boss already.
  • wilddavid
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    Same. Ran VHRC last night... first boss no deaths, second bosses were an absolute joke. Lag outs EVERY pull... and eventually tank or healer would lag out and it's a wipe. Insane. Eventually bottom boss just vanished so we went top to complete last boss for the drop, but no score. Ridiculous. vMOL is even worse... every single add pull up to the twins is a guaranteed 2-3 person lag out. First boss is just constant lag outs. It's survivable if the RNG gods don't take a healer or a tank but so far we haven't been that lucky. Please fix this crap so those of us who have dedicated hundreds if not thousands of hours to honing their end game content skills can actually play.
    Edited by wilddavid on March 16, 2017 9:45PM
  • Cubagaming
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    I've gotten through the first boss with one healer and one tank in the first boss in vmol. We have been able to get better managing the game'a problems with that boss, however, you can't do that at the twins. You will get a different color head if people Dc.

    Going into vmol tonight with the crew, let's see how this one is.
  • Cubagaming
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    Same old *** tonight in vmol. New day same old issues. I'm gonna keep coming back every night until someone from Zos acknowledges that we are having trouble here.

    People shouldn't have to off tank or off heal if they're dps.
  • TheWiesi
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    Cubagaming wrote: »
    Same old *** tonight in vmol. New day same old issues. I'm gonna keep coming back every night until someone from Zos acknowledges that we are having trouble here.

    People shouldn't have to off tank or off heal if they're dps.

    Actually they noticed that issue in vmol. They're trying to find the reason for those freezes. But I guess their investigation is only for vmol. Don't know whether they noticed the issue we have in other trials.
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  • LiquidPony
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    TheWiesi wrote: »
    Cubagaming wrote: »
    Same old *** tonight in vmol. New day same old issues. I'm gonna keep coming back every night until someone from Zos acknowledges that we are having trouble here.

    People shouldn't have to off tank or off heal if they're dps.

    Actually they noticed that issue in vmol. They're trying to find the reason for those freezes. But I guess their investigation is only for vmol. Don't know whether they noticed the issue we have in other trials.

    How do you know they're looking at it?

    I haven't seen any responses on the bug reports here.
  • Cubagaming
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    Once again vmol runs.

    Multiple D.C.'s on first boss and twins so far. It happens to hit our tanks and chainers too. I'm gonna keep bumping this thread every night I do trials with my guild and we have problems. Hopefully at that point, Zos may say something.

    You guys are focused quite a bit on pvp and then fix something there and break something in pve.
  • TheWiesi
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    LiquidPony wrote: »
    TheWiesi wrote: »
    Cubagaming wrote: »
    Same old *** tonight in vmol. New day same old issues. I'm gonna keep coming back every night until someone from Zos acknowledges that we are having trouble here.

    People shouldn't have to off tank or off heal if they're dps.

    Actually they noticed that issue in vmol. They're trying to find the reason for those freezes. But I guess their investigation is only for vmol. Don't know whether they noticed the issue we have in other trials.

    How do you know they're looking at it?

    I haven't seen any responses on the bug reports here.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3910252#Comment_3910252
    PS4/EU
  • CBixby
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    Ran vHR HM again last night, lag outs were minimal. There seems to always be someone lag out at first boss. Last night it was our healer, we ran first boss and top boss without him. Because we were going for score we had to restart the trial twice before this because the top boss wasn't giving us our score.

    One thing I forgot to mention to anyone running vHR, and I'm not sure if this depends on hardmode or not, but don't let the Warrior jump on the damage statue after it's broken. He will glitch into the air and reset himself.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GaryA @ZOS_TristanK
    Edited by CBixby on March 18, 2017 5:36PM
  • LiquidPony
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    TheWiesi wrote: »
    LiquidPony wrote: »
    TheWiesi wrote: »
    Cubagaming wrote: »
    Same old *** tonight in vmol. New day same old issues. I'm gonna keep coming back every night until someone from Zos acknowledges that we are having trouble here.

    People shouldn't have to off tank or off heal if they're dps.

    Actually they noticed that issue in vmol. They're trying to find the reason for those freezes. But I guess their investigation is only for vmol. Don't know whether they noticed the issue we have in other trials.

    How do you know they're looking at it?

    I haven't seen any responses on the bug reports here.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3910252#Comment_3910252

    In the general discussion forum. Of course. I went through 100s of pages of Bug Reports and Technical Support posts and none of the posts there had responses. Argh.
  • OrphanHelgen
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    The whole endgame needs to be taken seriously and proper maintenance.
    PC, EU server, Ebonheart Pact


    Finally a reason not to play League of Legends
  • TheWiesi
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    LiquidPony wrote: »
    TheWiesi wrote: »
    LiquidPony wrote: »
    TheWiesi wrote: »
    Cubagaming wrote: »
    Same old *** tonight in vmol. New day same old issues. I'm gonna keep coming back every night until someone from Zos acknowledges that we are having trouble here.

    People shouldn't have to off tank or off heal if they're dps.

    Actually they noticed that issue in vmol. They're trying to find the reason for those freezes. But I guess their investigation is only for vmol. Don't know whether they noticed the issue we have in other trials.

    How do you know they're looking at it?

    I haven't seen any responses on the bug reports here.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3910252#Comment_3910252

    In the general discussion forum. Of course. I went through 100s of pages of Bug Reports and Technical Support posts and none of the posts there had responses. Argh.

    Yea that's frustrating isn't it. It seems like ZOS doesn't pay attention to the bug report section. A million bugs but no acknowledgement. Thats not the way it should be!! I'm really disappointed
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  • Cubagaming
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    Went into vet hel ra last night. The bottom boss didn't glitch out because thankfully we didn't wipe. However, 2 of our dps were gone for half the fight due to disconnects and freezing.


    Gonna keep posting until they fix it.
  • William_AIA
    ZOS has managed to make it worse with this last patch. Same *** with the first boss on Maw but now we had people crashing on the twins which was barely manageable but we got through it. But Rakkhat? Before he even moves to pad 2 four people crash every single time without fail. Maw is officially unbeatable and it's forcing away the most loyal players.

    Please fix this
  • Shad0wfire99
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    Can confirm. Double ***.


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  • Cubagaming
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    Same *** different story. Vet maw right now, crashes on twins and such.

    Last night, we had crashes during the first boss but nothing after that, it was a breath of fresh air to beat rakhatt in one try.

  • lonewolf26
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    Even on PC, trials are becoming laggy and many of our team crash consecutively.

    ZoS really needs to go over their servers and code base. There's something wrong with this patch.
  • Cubagaming
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    We have been on last boss of vmol for 2 hours now due to crashes.

    It's literally unplayable. Fix your *** Zos!!!!!
  • Cubagaming
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    I can't even get past pad 1 without a blue screen and I'm one of the healers. It really sucks when I can't help my guildies get their skin. People have worked so hard to get to the level where they can accomplish this. We had rakkaht at 900k health in execute when I froze and then *** hit the fan. I switched playstations because sometimes that fixes it. It gets worse and worse.

    It's to the point in where I'm debating just paying for eso plus after it runs out. I keep giving you guys $30 per month because my husband also plays too. This is not necessarily a splurge because I do feel like most of the time, I do get my money's worth. Tonight, not so much folks.

    Stop being cheap *** and get better servers and better tech team.
  • King-Justin-Arisdale
    Mage spawned axes before she was even due to drop down last night.

  • CBixby
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    Omg... vmol last night brutal. It was actually worse than it's been lately. I actually lagged out at twins AND rakkaht. Usually once you're past first boss the lag outs are pretty minimal, but not last night. There would be a couple of us disconnect together. If you don't one bang rakkaht you will continue to d/c throughout the fight at the next pull. I'm pretty much over this game tbh.
  • TooSaucy
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    The raiding community is so small they just don't care. I bet this issue won't be fixed until Morrowind when everyone won't care about vMol.
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