Tai-Chi wrote: »

My Main Crafter took up Fishing a few days ago, for the first time. It fits in well with her Harvesting and 'Daily Quests' run and she is doing surprisingly well.

QUESTION 1
She sometimes sees black fish swimming or jumping about in the fishing spot. Is this occurrence telling her it's time to upgrade the fishing bait?

QUESTION 2
Are the rarer fish only found in a particular spot, or can they turn up in any similar/like spot?

1. That just tells you the hole is active, it is part of the gurgling water animation. It would look weird if there were no fish.
2. Green and Blue Fish, which I assume your asking about come from any hole you are fishing. But, each hole has it's own rare fish, so you have to get the rares from each hole type in the zone. I think there are two different green species and one blue fish species per hole in most places. To increase the chances, have more people with you fishing the hole. 4 to 5 is a good amount, 2 to 3 is kind of OK. There is a Purple Fish in Wrothgar that if you follow the suggestions of the NPC that you talk to, you will get the fish in one or two casts solo, so it's not really a rare one. (hints, talk to her and explore all options, and fish at night, use Worms as it is the ocean). If you don't follow the suggestions, it won't show up, ever.

If you use the proper bait, you will catch a fish or gunny sack on every cast. You must take the used bait if you get any as it won't catch anything. There is a book in the game that tells you what bait to use, and follow this:

Still Water Lake
Moving Water River
Corpses or Bones or obvious Sewer exit nearby Foul Water
Coast Ocean

I will leave it you to figure out the optimal baits, or read the book I alluded to above. Note, secondary baits you get are no better at getting rare fish, and are never used in the hole you get them at.

Final note, getting Greens or Blues may be harder now with Homestead as there are Furniture Mats diluting the Loot Table.

One of the comments here mentions how the odds go up if more people are at a hole.

As much as fishing with others increases your chances - don't do it. So much better to harvest that beautiful, beautiful Roe from all your failures and either sell it for extortion level gold, or use it to craft EXP pots and sell those for extortion level gold.

Fishing is actually quite relaxing and easy once you get it. I really don't use that much of the guides anymore. Only when I'm missing a few rare fish i will check from which water type they spawn. I still have so many fishes to catch that I can easily check from the achievements and travel to the location from which I miss the most.

And perfect roe has great value so if you dont know the recipe you can easily sell those for 10k+ a piece.

Have fun fishing!

Other than perfect roe, is there any game mechanical reason to fish? I heard something about housing.

I asked in zone when I first started playing "Is there a point to fishing?" To which a lot of people replied, "Nope, none. It's just relaxing." Only later did I realize what a perfect roe is used for.

parkham wrote: »

Other than perfect roe, is there any game mechanical reason to fish? I heard something about housing.

I asked in zone when I first started playing "Is there a point to fishing?" To which a lot of people replied, "Nope, none. It's just relaxing." Only later did I realize what a perfect roe is used for.

Homestead has added Furnishing objects as random rewards whilst you fish.

So far I have caught

• 3 x small (blue) fish
• 2 x large (blue) fish
• 1 x star fish (blue)
• 3 x Salmon (epic purple)
• 2 x Trout (epic purple)
• 1 x Bass (epic purple)
• 3 x small kelp (green I think)
• 1 x medium/large kelp (blue)

These items can be placed in ones home, traded or sold in your Guild Stores.

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

There have been rumours about certain fish - that you can only catch them with the "alternative" bait for the water type. I remember trying to catch a green sea fish (can't remember the area) that was much, much rarer than the blue one, so much so that people were coming onto this forum to ask if it was real. Someone suggested that it could only be caught using chub, not worms. I gave it a try with chub but eventually caught it, long after I'd run out of chub, with a lowly worm

The special fish in Wrothgar is only caught at night, south west of Morkul stronghold. There's a female orc on the shore who tells you about it, but I don't think you need to talk to her to catch it.

That is fantastic! I will now be able to pinpoint the location when I start fishing in Wrothgar.

My Main Crafter (the budding Angler) spent many months in Wrothgar and levelled from V14 to V16 there. She knows the area extremely well.

Do you know anything about Old Man Car in Deshaan? Some players claim that he does not exist but that cannot be so because otherwise we would not have any Master Anglers.

So far I have been using only the lowly bait; the fish seem to take to it just fine.

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

Tai-Chi wrote: »

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

There have been rumours about certain fish - that you can only catch them with the "alternative" bait for the water type. I remember trying to catch a green sea fish (can't remember the area) that was much, much rarer than the blue one, so much so that people were coming onto this forum to ask if it was real. Someone suggested that it could only be caught using chub, not worms. I gave it a try with chub but eventually caught it, long after I'd run out of chub, with a lowly worm

The special fish in Wrothgar is only caught at night, south west of Morkul stronghold. There's a female orc on the shore who tells you about it, but I don't think you need to talk to her to catch it.

That is fantastic! I will now be able to pinpoint the location when I start fishing in Wrothgar.

My Main Crafter (the budding Angler) spent many months in Wrothgar and levelled from V14 to V16 there. She knows the area extremely well.

Do you know anything about Old Man Car in Deshaan? Some players claim that he does not exist but that cannot be so because otherwise we would not have any Master Anglers.

So far I have been using only the lowly bait; the fish seem to take to it just fine.

I have a character who is a Master Angler, so all the fish exist. I don' t remember having a problem in Deshaan, but fishing is random...

On the plus side, if you don't catch a rare fish then you get a chance at fish roe!

My Crafter caught the CRAB-SLAUGHTER-CRANE on her first attempt - with the first worm - would you believe!

THE EXACT CIRCUMSTANCES

• My crafter just happened to be passing the spot where the Chief's wife is fishing. It was dusk - therefore ideal conditions.
• My Crafter spoke to her. She only asked about fish and fishing. She did not enquire into the woman's marriage and her relationship with her husband.
• My crafter believed eveything the Chief's wife said about the mudcrab, crane and slaughterfish. She did not doubt her for one second.

Crafter then looked for the nearest fishing spot. She found one just a few yards NE along the coast. It was almost dark now. When she looked back, the Chief's wife was not by her boat anymore.

She cast in her line - worm on end - and almost immediately a fish took the bait. The achievement flashed up. I do not remember whether my crafter actually pulled up the line or not. It all happened so quickly.

Looking back, my crafter could see the chief's wife returning to her spot by the boat.

So, whether the above was just darn good luck or RNG being favourable for once, I do not know. I will test it on my other toons at some stage, to see whether the results are the same.

Anyway, thanks again for your help and advice.