VMA vs vet dungeons solo

Jammer480 · March 2017

Which is more difficult to complete?

Voxicity · March 2017

Depends on the dungeon, some of them like FG 2 with the chainer boss require quite a bit of skill (getting destro ult down before you get chained so it kills the chainers) other require not as much skill

also vma is easy so I'm gonna say some solo vet dungeons

Jammer480 · March 2017

Yeah, some dungeon mechanics basically require more than 1 player, and while it may be soloable I would put FG2 in that category.

Danksta · March 2017

Soloing vet dungeons I would say is harder. Some of them aren't very hard, but those bosses with 4 million HP leave a lot of time for errors. Plus vet dungeons don't have sigils.

Jammer480 · March 2017

If you can solo the easier vet dungeons, is that any indication of how you will do in VMA?

CultOfMMO · March 2017

but why though...?

Jammer480 · March 2017

Yeah, guess that was a stupid question...I got nothing.

Jammer480 · March 2017

Guess I was thinking if I wanted to test a build before starting vma, would a solo dungeon be a place to try it but really not much point in doing that, should just jump in vma.

GrigorijMalahevich · March 2017

Jammer480 wrote: »

If you can solo the easier vet dungeons, is that any indication of how you will do in VMA?

VMA requires understanding of mechanics. Though if you can solo vet dungeons then your build will be ok in VMA. Something like veteran City of Ash 2 is a good incidator of high dps and selfsustain.

Some vet dungeons just don't have mechanics that can kill you, but VMA has loads of mechanics that will you very fast/instantly.

Drummerx04 · March 2017

vMA only throws a maximum of 5 or 6 enemies at you at any given time and the larger mobs cap out at around 130k health or so and most have around 40-50k health, the bosses are designed to be fought solo, and while vMA definitely punishes errors with more or less instant death, the arena is still designed to be run solo.

vet dungeons can throw 30 mobs at you at once that have a minimum of 130k health and upwards of 500k, swarm you with melee adds while 6+ archers blast away from afar, etc. Some bosses have mechanics that pin you down and kill you without a team to rescue you. Now some of these mechanics can be avoided as shown by that @Vaoh guy who can steak out of some instant death mechanics, but really that's only possible because sorc.

If you are asking whether soloing vet dungeons is a good warmup for vMA, then I guess so? You'll certainly get practice fighting tougher mobs while outnumbered, but it's usually the mechanics that kill you in vMA, and that will still take practice in the arena.

greylox · March 2017

Vma is harder than most vet dungeons solo because of mechanics and random crap.

getemshauna · March 2017

Imho depends. City of Ash 1 hardmode as example is very easy, but Spindleclutch 1 Hm last boss I was needing much more attemps to solo it, then fx. Last boss vmsa when I was doing it by first time.

SquareSausage · March 2017

I'd say they are both completely different.

As in anything in life, if you want to get good at something, you practice doing that thing over and over.

If you want to practice for VMA, do VMA. Honestly, it will be much more beneficial.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · March 2017

If you are already soloing some of the easier vet dungeons, there is no reason you cant jump into VMA. It is a different type of challenge, and as others have said, there is no substitute for banging your head against it. I think Streak is the only person I know that just walked in there and cleared it the first time in under 3 hours.

My advice, pic a meta VMA build for your class and use it as an outline. Then make sure you are well stocked on potions, food and gems, and give it a go. Worst that can happen is that you die, and you will. haha

s7732425ub17_ESO · March 2017

I would say certain vet dungeons are definitely harder than VMA.

KingDasDing · March 2017

KaiVox22 wrote: »

also vma is easy so I'm gonna say some solo vet dungeons

Lol

SJD_Phoenix · March 2017

The best warm up for vMA is vMA.

If you're looking at clears you'll get further running it and getting used to the spawns than just doing vet dungeons solo.

My next step is to start running MA on normal for a bit to slow it right down and see what type of mob spawns where so I can formulate a plan on vet

Aeolwind · March 2017

SJD_Phoenix wrote: »

The best warm up for vMA is vMA.

If you're looking at clears you'll get further running it and getting used to the spawns than just doing vet dungeons solo.

My next step is to start running MA on normal for a bit to slow it right down and see what type of mob spawns where so I can formulate a plan on vet

Running normal does not prepare you for vet in the even remotest little bit. The difference is utterly staggering and a huge waste of time. Get few hundred soul stones and about at least 50k worth of gold for repairs and dive in.

IcyDeadPeople · March 2017

CultOfMMO wrote: »

but why though...?

Did anyone dare to ask Edmund Hillary why he climbed Mount Everest, or this guy why he cultivated the world's biggest mohawk?

Skinzz · March 2017

Vet dungeons are harder because there's a billion mobs to kill

getemshauna · March 2017

xskinzcity wrote: »

Vet dungeons are harder because there's a billion mobs to kill

Or - you are magblade and can skip them all with Dark Cloak

Bobby_V_Rockit · March 2017

I've completed neither, but from (numerous) attempts at both, vMA kills me from environmental damage but vet dungeons its the mobs. As such, I'd have to assume they are incomparable and that one will not prepare you for the other.

Bigevilpeter · March 2017

VMA is designed for solo play so it should be easier than most vet dungeons if you solo, maily because there are mechanics that are almost impossible for one person to do, not to mention the heath is designed for 2 dds and one person to tank the boss while another heals you so you can get highest dps possible,

I think only magika sorcs can do all roles, with pet tanking and auto heal with charge and occassionally pet heal, while you dash out your max dps

Vaoh · March 2017

They are a bit different.

vMA is one set difficulty, which imo ranks inbetween the easier and harder Vet dungeons.

The difference is, vMA can be a total joke if you know it well and have the correct gear/setup. vMA was tuned for one player. You can burn through bosses and skip practically all the mechanics in the arena (570K+ scores).

Vet dungeons are meant for groups, so the burn technique is not an option. You must actually fight through and follow boss mechanics. When you solo tougher bosses in Vet dungeons, vMA tends to feel comparatively easy.

Ep1kMalware · March 2017

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Depends on the dungeon, some of them like FG 2 with the chainer boss require quite a bit of skill (getting destro ult down before you get chained so it kills the chainers) other require not as much skill

also vma is easy so I'm gonna say some solo vet dungeons

I a/disgree with this. Vma was hard till I got good at it. I was already good at alot of the vet dungeons before getting good at vma. I can solo vrds1 or vr coa1 with my eyes closed. Vma has a tighter learning curb.

Merlin13KAGL · March 2017

Aeolwind wrote: »

SJD_Phoenix wrote: »

The best warm up for vMA is vMA.

If you're looking at clears you'll get further running it and getting used to the spawns than just doing vet dungeons solo.

My next step is to start running MA on normal for a bit to slow it right down and see what type of mob spawns where so I can formulate a plan on vet

Running normal does not prepare you for vet in the even remotest little bit. The difference is utterly staggering and a huge waste of time.

Absolutely untrue, as you at least get to see some of the baseline mechanics in a much more forgivable environment.

Vet obviously hits harder, mitigates more, and has additional mechanics, but going in completely blind will just end up frustrating most players into never coming back.