Do Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance?

dreddurius · March 2017

I just stow my pet in trials/dungeons out of courtesy for people who might possibly have issues with their specs (or possibly, visual issues).

Floki_Vilgerdarson · March 2017

Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.

IronCrystal wrote: »

We always ask everyone to put pets away during a trial specifically for two reasons:

1. Performance
2. Too many things on screen can get in the way. Imagine if all 12 people have pets out, some big ones too

There's a reason RaidNotifier automatically puts pets away.

Is that why these pets are not allowed in pvp zones?

Floki_Vilgerdarson · March 2017

Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.

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Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »

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Betheny wrote: »

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Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »

I like to do anything I can do to reduce lag and performance issues. If I can verify that pets cause performance issues I can control that variable. I cannot change most performance draining variables.

Do you mean your own pet causes you performance issues, because you can't control pets other people spawn.

Yes, I am only talking about my pet and my personal performance etc. I cannot control other people and their pets. I just don't need any extra lag or issues.

I haven't noticed my pet causing me any kind of lag. Turn it off if you want but I doubt you'll see any measurable performance increase...game goes all over the place with its fps anyway so how would anyone even know they gained that 1fps improvement minus their pet?

Do you do trials and 4 man Vet dungeons with your pet out?

Yep.

What trials are you running with your pet?

Stovahkiin · March 2017

No, Non-Combat Pets do not negatively impact game performance.

This is a pointless poll. As said before, everything on screen affects performance, so of course the answer is technically "Yes". However, the affect that a couple non-combat pets have on performance is almost negligible, unless you have a PoS rig, which is your own problem.

And again I ask what the point of this poll is. So you've decided that they do impact performance negatively, albeit in a small amount, so what? If it made a medium-large difference then it would certainly be worth discussing, but I don't see any point in making a fuss about it as it stands.

heaven13 · March 2017

You seem to already have your mind made up about this. Additionally, asking if people do trials/dungeons, and then which ones, despite your original question of just yes/no on negative impact of (generic) performance seems to indicate you're not actually trying to get an accurate poll, but rather convince people they do cause issues. In that case, you'd be better off making a opinion thread and stating your case, rather than making a poll then arguing and interrogating anyone that votes no.

Stovahkiin · March 2017

No, Non-Combat Pets do not negatively impact game performance.

heaven13 wrote: »

You seem to already have your mind made up about this. Additionally, asking if people do trials/dungeons, and then which ones, despite your original question of just yes/no on negative impact of (generic) performance seems to indicate you're not actually trying to get an accurate poll, but rather convince people they do cause issues. In that case, you'd be better off making a opinion thread and stating your case, rather than making a poll then arguing and interrogating anyone that votes no.

Exactly

zaria · March 2017

dreddurius wrote: »

I just stow my pet in trials/dungeons out of courtesy for people who might possibly have issues with their specs (or possibly, visual issues).

Shifted from sorcerer to an templar character, had to switch to an smaller pet, was so used to the clanfear I would look at the pet and got annoyed he would not engage enemy.
And yes its an known PvP troll tactic to run large groups with lots of pets spamming cheap AoE to hurt enemy framerate.
Only work on pc if all in group has serious hardware.
Might be an console issue with the upcoming One+ version.

Imryll · March 2017

As often as I see mobs getting hung up on my Bravil Retriever, as they try to attack me, I consider him a member of the combat team.

Tasear · March 2017

Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.

dreddurius wrote: »

I just stow my pet in trials/dungeons out of courtesy for people who might possibly have issues with their specs (or possibly, visual issues).

Thank you

wenchmore420b14_ESO · March 2017

Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.

Who remembers when Cyrodiil was populated with deer and fire-fly's??
They were removed to increase performance issues there. They are basically the same as non-combat pets as they are just rendered figures with limited coded actions.
So, if Zos found it necessary to remove deer and fireflies for better performance, I would assume the same applies to pets.
Just my 2 Septims...
Huzzah!!

ynimma · March 2017

Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.

Of course I don't want to jump to any conclusions about how some part of a playerbase has an emotional attachment to a non-combat pet which - in my eyes - rather break the immersion with how strangely they "follow" their owners stuck in rocky corners, top of trees/bushes, behind furniture etc.
I'm not fan of these code-spams, they have no use at all for me and not sure about how they elevate anyone's game after the novelty of them wears off but I rather ask here again than wild guess.
Please someone who has a non-combat pet with his/her character tell me what I'm missing!

Cêltic421 · March 2017

To be honest idk if they do or not. People complain about lag and such while doing trial when pets are out just as much when there are no pets allowed. Personally I have not had any performance issues while any type of personal pets were use. So doing the trial if someone has a pet out it doesn't bother with performance. I'm on PS4 and I rarely lag. So I doubt it really does unless you are in a very populates area.

Vipstaakki · March 2017

No, Non-Combat Pets do not negatively impact game performance.

This is a funny poll. Non-combat pets influence the game performance as much as combat pets.

Gargath · March 2017

Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.

Please remove all non-combat pets from group activities like dungeons and trials unless all participants agree to have pets visible (by some automatic one time system check). Pets in trials with enough graphical effects on screen is just unnecessary waste of GPU memory and is annoying because they mess with real targets only increasing the overall mess around.

akl77 · March 2017

No, Non-Combat Pets do not negatively impact game performance.

I don't think so, it's silly really to say pets will affect anything.

Stovahkiin · March 2017

No, Non-Combat Pets do not negatively impact game performance.

wenchmore420b14_ESO wrote: »

Who remembers when Cyrodiil was populated with deer and fire-fly's??
They were removed to increase performance issues there. They are basically the same as non-combat pets as they are just rendered figures with limited coded actions.
So, if Zos found it necessary to remove deer and fireflies for better performance, I would assume the same applies to pets.
Just my 2 Septims...
Huzzah!!

Things like that were removed from Cyro because it used to be a constant lag fest in there (some people say that it still is, but I rarely have bad lag in there anymore). Cyrodiil has always been harder to manage lag-wise than the rest of the game

Floki_Vilgerdarson · March 2017

Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.

I want to thank you all for contributing to this poll and discussion. The thread got heated because people love their pets despite performance loss however small. My Girlfriend loves her pet and so I understand people form attachments to these pets. I am a pragmatist.

The common theme of this thread supports my supposition. Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance. There was no evidence presented otherwise, despite the emotional voters trying to swing the vote, while still saying they acknowledge pets hurt performance.

Also it shows how quick people jump to protect what they think might cause a game change. After all, most Nerfs and Buffs come from someone bringing up a problem in these forms or by other forms of reporting. I know I cringe when I see people wanting my class skills nerfed etc. We all know how that works

All of you who just play for fun do not worry. I know your votes were from your heart. ESO will NEVER take your pets from you. They make far too much money selling these little pets. They are making an entire pet dlc for you pet lovers, Morrowind.

Thank you,

Floki

jmgrant44ub17_ESO · March 2017

Pets equal Crowns......so it doesn't matter.

Elsonso · March 2017

No, Non-Combat Pets do not negatively impact game performance.

Not enough to be worth mentioning.

Stovahkiin · March 2017

No, Non-Combat Pets do not negatively impact game performance.

Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »

I want to thank you all for contributing to this poll and discussion. The thread got heated because people love their pets despite performance loss however small. My Girlfriend loves her pet and so I understand people form attachments to these pets. I am a pragmatist.

The common theme of this thread supports my supposition. Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance. There was no evidence presented otherwise, despite the emotional voters trying to swing the vote, while still saying they acknowledge pets hurt performance.

Also it shows how quick people jump to protect what they think might cause a game change. After all, most Nerfs and Buffs come from someone bringing up a problem in these forms or by other forms of reporting. I know I cringe when I see people wanting my class skills nerfed etc. We all know how that works

All of you who just play for fun do not worry. I know your votes were from your heart. ESO will NEVER take your pets from you. They make far too much money selling these little pets. They are making an entire pet dlc for you pet lovers, Morrowind.

Thank you,

Floki

Actually, I personally have no love for the pets in this game, nor do I see any use for them. However this poll was made in such a way that only one answer is "technically" correct, so what else could you possibly have expected people to say? You can't make a poll that only has one obviously correct answer, and then passive aggressively declare victory against the people who voted differently.