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Do Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance?
Floki_Vilgerdarson
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I suspect they can't help performance, but I want to hear from everyone.
Edited by Floki_Vilgerdarson on March 18, 2017 12:49AM Do Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance? 64 votes
Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.
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No, Non-Combat Pets do not negatively impact game performance.
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Floki_Vilgerdarson✭✭✭✭Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.Zenimax and Mediators please comment.
Thanks,
Floki
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zaria✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Anything on screen affect it.
However the pets are very cheap to run, if you have the pet in an trial or cyrodil its the 200 graphic effects who hit graphic performance and that everybody has 30 effects on them all the time who is the real problem.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.4 -
Tabbycat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No, Non-Combat Pets do not negatively impact game performance.I would imagine dueling in towns impacts performance more than pets do.Founder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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Floki_Vilgerdarson✭✭✭✭Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.I would love to see more input and data from you all.0
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JinMori✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.Yes of course, anything on the screen impact your performance, and server performance.
In other words, the more things the computer have to calculate, the worse your performance will be.1 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.@Floki_Vilgerdarson
Unlikely moderators will reply since this is pretty straight forward.
Zaria is correct. Anything on screen does add to information that needs to be processed. Though in ESO it tends to be less but adds to the high number of effects already present. It adds stress to even the best rigs though lesser machines will bear the burden.
It is a good and courteous gesture to remove pets when raiding.5 -
Floki_Vilgerdarson✭✭✭✭Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »@Floki_Vilgerdarson
Unlikely moderators will reply since this is pretty straight forward.
Zaria is correct. Anything on screen does add to information that needs to be processed. Though in ESO it tends to be less but adds to the high number of effects already present. It adds stress to even the best rigs though lesser machines will bear the burden.
It is a good and courteous gesture to remove pets when raiding.
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Orbital✭✭✭Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.I ask everyone in my group to turn off pets in trials (if they wasn't all broken on console)Axphykz.
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Floki_Vilgerdarson✭✭✭✭Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.I would still like to hear the people who voted that pets don't cause issues. Where are they and what facts can they bring to this talk.0
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Magdalina✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.I'm voting yes purely because they annoy the heck out of me.
Yes, people paid for their game and have full right to run around ancient daedric layers accompanied by their pet cub, but oh how I wish I didn't have to watch it catch butterflies and make cute sounds as we're trying to kill the op evil super monster spitting acid and evil curses 3 m away from it. You could even say it ruins my immersion
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Tabbycat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No, Non-Combat Pets do not negatively impact game performance.Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »I would still like to hear the people who voted that pets don't cause issues. Where are they and what facts can they bring to this talk.
I'm not saying that pets don't impact game performance. As someone else said, everything rendered impacts performance. I just think other things have a greater negative impact. The increased number of NPC's in town that you can murder. The increased number of guards because you can steal and murder. And all the flashy abilities players are using when they are dueling inside of towns. I think all of that has a greater impact on performance than pets. I'm sure even the costumes our characters wear impacts game performance. The apex mount you are using with all those animations? Hey those impact performance too.Edited by Tabbycat on March 18, 2017 2:14AMFounder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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Floki_Vilgerdarson✭✭✭✭Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »I would still like to hear the people who voted that pets don't cause issues. Where are they and what facts can they bring to this talk.
I'm not saying that pets don't impact game performance. As someone else said, everything rendered impacts performance. I just think other things have a greater negative impact. The increased number of NPC's in town that you can murder. The increased number of guards because you can steal and murder. And all the flashy abilities players are using when they are dueling inside of towns. I think all of that has a greater impact on performance than pets. I'm sure even the costumes our characters wear impacts game performance. The apex mount you are using with all those animations? Hey those impact performance too.
I am only asking about Non Combat Pets. I think we all know everything in this game uses memory and resources. So why did you vote NO but you then you admit they cause issues?
That kind of answer really messes up a poll. I am asking a specific question, not open ended.
Are you worried about loosing your cat or snake?0 -
Floki_Vilgerdarson✭✭✭✭Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.Please vote with your brain and not your heart.1
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Tabbycat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No, Non-Combat Pets do not negatively impact game performance.Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »I would still like to hear the people who voted that pets don't cause issues. Where are they and what facts can they bring to this talk.
I'm not saying that pets don't impact game performance. As someone else said, everything rendered impacts performance. I just think other things have a greater negative impact. The increased number of NPC's in town that you can murder. The increased number of guards because you can steal and murder. And all the flashy abilities players are using when they are dueling inside of towns. I think all of that has a greater impact on performance than pets. I'm sure even the costumes our characters wear impacts game performance. The apex mount you are using with all those animations? Hey those impact performance too.
I am only asking about Non Combat Pets. I think we all know everything in this game uses memory and resources. So why did you vote NO but you then you admit they cause issues?
That kind of answer really messes up a poll. I am asking a specific question, not open ended.
Are you worried about loosing your cat or snake?
If you already know everything rendered impacts performance, why would you even make a poll to ask if one particular thing impacts performance? It would make more sense to ask if it impacts performance more than other things or if removing "x" item would greatly increase game performance.(Which is what I thought you were asking so maybe I was misreading your poll as in do pets negatively impact performance more than other rendered objects. In which case I don't think that removing pets from the game altogether would greatly improve game performance because it is more than just pets causing performance issues.)
I'm not sure what you're asking with this poll.Edited by Tabbycat on March 18, 2017 2:30AMFounder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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Floki_Vilgerdarson✭✭✭✭Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »I would still like to hear the people who voted that pets don't cause issues. Where are they and what facts can they bring to this talk.
I'm not saying that pets don't impact game performance. As someone else said, everything rendered impacts performance. I just think other things have a greater negative impact. The increased number of NPC's in town that you can murder. The increased number of guards because you can steal and murder. And all the flashy abilities players are using when they are dueling inside of towns. I think all of that has a greater impact on performance than pets. I'm sure even the costumes our characters wear impacts game performance. The apex mount you are using with all those animations? Hey those impact performance too.
I am only asking about Non Combat Pets. I think we all know everything in this game uses memory and resources. So why did you vote NO but you then you admit they cause issues?
That kind of answer really messes up a poll. I am asking a specific question, not open ended.
Are you worried about loosing your cat or snake?
If you already know everything rendered impacts performance, why would you even make a poll to ask if one particular thing impacts performance? It would make more sense to ask if it impact performance more than other things or if removing "x" item would greatly increase game performance. In which case I don't think that removing pets from the game altogether would greatly improve game performance because it is more than just pets causing performance issues.
I'm not sure what your asking with this poll.
Read the two questions. That is all I am asking.
I like to do anything I can do to reduce lag and performance issues. If I can verify that pets cause performance issues I can control that variable. I cannot change most performance draining variables.
I can give you a simple analogy to help you understand my question, but I think you might see what I am asking now.
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✭✭Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »I like to do anything I can do to reduce lag and performance issues. If I can verify that pets cause performance issues I can control that variable. I cannot change most performance draining variables.
Do you mean your own pet causes you performance issues, because you can't control pets other people spawn.1 -
Tabbycat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No, Non-Combat Pets do not negatively impact game performance.Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »I would still like to hear the people who voted that pets don't cause issues. Where are they and what facts can they bring to this talk.
I'm not saying that pets don't impact game performance. As someone else said, everything rendered impacts performance. I just think other things have a greater negative impact. The increased number of NPC's in town that you can murder. The increased number of guards because you can steal and murder. And all the flashy abilities players are using when they are dueling inside of towns. I think all of that has a greater impact on performance than pets. I'm sure even the costumes our characters wear impacts game performance. The apex mount you are using with all those animations? Hey those impact performance too.
I am only asking about Non Combat Pets. I think we all know everything in this game uses memory and resources. So why did you vote NO but you then you admit they cause issues?
That kind of answer really messes up a poll. I am asking a specific question, not open ended.
Are you worried about loosing your cat or snake?
If you already know everything rendered impacts performance, why would you even make a poll to ask if one particular thing impacts performance? It would make more sense to ask if it impact performance more than other things or if removing "x" item would greatly increase game performance. In which case I don't think that removing pets from the game altogether would greatly improve game performance because it is more than just pets causing performance issues.
I'm not sure what your asking with this poll.
Read the two questions. That is all I am asking.
I like to do anything I can do to reduce lag and performance issues. If I can verify that pets cause performance issues I can control that variable. I cannot change most performance draining variables.
I can give you a simple analogy to help you understand my question, but I think you might see what I am asking now.
Floki
You can't control other peoples pets though. You can choose not to use one yourself but just removing your own pet isn't going to help you much.Your machine is still going to render other players pets. I don't think we have a toggle to turn them off. I could be wrong on that. I just don't recall seeing that option. I think you'd have better luck improving performance by adjusting your graphics settings in the escape menu.
In a dungeon/trial group setting, that's a different story. You could request everyone stow their non-combat pets. Most of them probably already do for group content anyway.Edited by Tabbycat on March 18, 2017 2:39AMFounder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.I would imagine dueling in towns impacts performance more than pets do.
The question is not what affects performance more. Obviously in open world one cannot tell people to put pets away though in raids, of course.Edited by idk on March 18, 2017 2:45AM0 -
Floki_Vilgerdarson✭✭✭✭Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »I would still like to hear the people who voted that pets don't cause issues. Where are they and what facts can they bring to this talk.
I'm not saying that pets don't impact game performance. As someone else said, everything rendered impacts performance. I just think other things have a greater negative impact. The increased number of NPC's in town that you can murder. The increased number of guards because you can steal and murder. And all the flashy abilities players are using when they are dueling inside of towns. I think all of that has a greater impact on performance than pets. I'm sure even the costumes our characters wear impacts game performance. The apex mount you are using with all those animations? Hey those impact performance too.
I am only asking about Non Combat Pets. I think we all know everything in this game uses memory and resources. So why did you vote NO but you then you admit they cause issues?
That kind of answer really messes up a poll. I am asking a specific question, not open ended.
Are you worried about loosing your cat or snake?
If you already know everything rendered impacts performance, why would you even make a poll to ask if one particular thing impacts performance? It would make more sense to ask if it impact performance more than other things or if removing "x" item would greatly increase game performance. In which case I don't think that removing pets from the game altogether would greatly improve game performance because it is more than just pets causing performance issues.
I'm not sure what your asking with this poll.
Read the two questions. That is all I am asking.
I like to do anything I can do to reduce lag and performance issues. If I can verify that pets cause performance issues I can control that variable. I cannot change most performance draining variables.
I can give you a simple analogy to help you understand my question, but I think you might see what I am asking now.
Floki
You can't control other peoples pets though. You can choose not to use one yourself but just removing your own pet isn't going to help you much.Your machine is still going to render other players pets. I don't think we have a toggle to turn them off. I could be wrong on that. I just don't recall seeing that option. I think you'd have better luck improving performance by adjusting your graphics settings in the escape menu.
In a dungeon/trial group setting, that's a different story. You could request everyone stow their non-combat pets. Most of them probably already do for group content anyway.
You keep giving me more information leading me to beleive you know pets are a problem and not just my pet, but all the pets.
So your vote was not honest by your own admissions posted above.
If you had just answered the question honestly the first time we could have avoided this.
Thank you for at least trying to make an argument to support your vote. Your argument actually supported the other voters.
Do not ever attempt law school. ; )
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✭✭✭No, Non-Combat Pets do not negatively impact game performance.So the actual question is "Will I have improved PC performance if I request everyone stow their non-combat pets for trials/group content?" in which case, the obvious answer is yes.Edited by Tabbycat on March 18, 2017 2:51AMFounder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.There's a reason pets aren't alive in our house. But yes anyone doing veteran trial knows non combat pets are a no.Edited by Tasear on March 18, 2017 2:52AM0 -
Floki_Vilgerdarson✭✭✭✭Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »I like to do anything I can do to reduce lag and performance issues. If I can verify that pets cause performance issues I can control that variable. I cannot change most performance draining variables.
Do you mean your own pet causes you performance issues, because you can't control pets other people spawn.
Yes, I am only talking about my pet and my personal performance etc. I cannot control other people and their pets. I just don't need any extra lag or issues.0 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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Min / max fail, stuff can have an effect but the effect is so small it can be ignored.Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »I would still like to hear the people who voted that pets don't cause issues. Where are they and what facts can they bring to this talk.
I'm not saying that pets don't impact game performance. As someone else said, everything rendered impacts performance. I just think other things have a greater negative impact. The increased number of NPC's in town that you can murder. The increased number of guards because you can steal and murder. And all the flashy abilities players are using when they are dueling inside of towns. I think all of that has a greater impact on performance than pets. I'm sure even the costumes our characters wear impacts game performance. The apex mount you are using with all those animations? Hey those impact performance too.
I am only asking about Non Combat Pets. I think we all know everything in this game uses memory and resources. So why did you vote NO but you then you admit they cause issues?
That kind of answer really messes up a poll. I am asking a specific question, not open ended.
Are you worried about loosing your cat or snake?
If you already know everything rendered impacts performance, why would you even make a poll to ask if one particular thing impacts performance? It would make more sense to ask if it impact performance more than other things or if removing "x" item would greatly increase game performance. In which case I don't think that removing pets from the game altogether would greatly improve game performance because it is more than just pets causing performance issues.
I'm not sure what your asking with this poll.
Read the two questions. That is all I am asking.
I like to do anything I can do to reduce lag and performance issues. If I can verify that pets cause performance issues I can control that variable. I cannot change most performance draining variables.
I can give you a simple analogy to help you understand my question, but I think you might see what I am asking now.
Floki
In raids or large scale pvp effect both graphical and calculation of them is the killer.
In towns all the players with different gear is an main killer.
Add dueling.
Turning off pets in raids is an idea not only because of performance but as its look stupid.
You clanfear who had tanked world bosses dies all the time but your cat is unaffected.Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.1 -
Floki_Vilgerdarson✭✭✭✭Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.So the actual question is "Will I have improved PC performance if I request everyone stow their non-combat pets for trials/group content?" in which case, the obvious answer is yes.
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Tabbycat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No, Non-Combat Pets do not negatively impact game performance.Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »
If it reads as it is (which is a silly question to ask). Yes. They do. No more than anything else your pc has to render. But not enough to make a difference unless you are doing group content. If you turned off non-combat pets, I'd be surprised if you noticed any major gains in pc performance (except in trials).Edited by Tabbycat on March 18, 2017 3:02AMFounder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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Floki_Vilgerdarson✭✭✭✭Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »
If it reads as it is (which is a silly question to ask). Yes. They do. No more than anything else your pc has to render. But not enough to make a difference unless you are doing group content.
Why is the poll question "silly to ask"? Is that why you keep talking about your false vote? Do you lack attention?0 -
Betheny✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »I like to do anything I can do to reduce lag and performance issues. If I can verify that pets cause performance issues I can control that variable. I cannot change most performance draining variables.
Do you mean your own pet causes you performance issues, because you can't control pets other people spawn.
Yes, I am only talking about my pet and my personal performance etc. I cannot control other people and their pets. I just don't need any extra lag or issues.
I haven't noticed my pet causing me any kind of lag. Turn it off if you want but I doubt you'll see any measurable performance increase...game goes all over the place with its fps anyway so how would anyone even know they gained that 1fps improvement minus their pet?4 -
Floki_Vilgerdarson✭✭✭✭Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.YouFloki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »I like to do anything I can do to reduce lag and performance issues. If I can verify that pets cause performance issues I can control that variable. I cannot change most performance draining variables.
Do you mean your own pet causes you performance issues, because you can't control pets other people spawn.
Yes, I am only talking about my pet and my personal performance etc. I cannot control other people and their pets. I just don't need any extra lag or issues.
I haven't noticed my pet causing me any kind of lag. Turn it off if you want but I doubt you'll see any measurable performance increase...game goes all over the place with its fps anyway so how would anyone even know they gained that 1fps improvement minus their pet?
Do you do trials and 4 man Vet dungeons with your pet out?0 -
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✭No, Non-Combat Pets do not negatively impact game performance.Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »YouFloki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »Floki_Vilgerdarson wrote: »I like to do anything I can do to reduce lag and performance issues. If I can verify that pets cause performance issues I can control that variable. I cannot change most performance draining variables.
Do you mean your own pet causes you performance issues, because you can't control pets other people spawn.
Yes, I am only talking about my pet and my personal performance etc. I cannot control other people and their pets. I just don't need any extra lag or issues.
I haven't noticed my pet causing me any kind of lag. Turn it off if you want but I doubt you'll see any measurable performance increase...game goes all over the place with its fps anyway so how would anyone even know they gained that 1fps improvement minus their pet?
Do you do trials and 4 man Vet dungeons with your pet out?
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✭Yes, Non-Combat Pets negatively impact game performance.We always ask everyone to put pets away during a trial specifically for two reasons:
1. Performance
2. Too many things on screen can get in the way. Imagine if all 12 people have pets out, some big ones too
There's a reason RaidNotifier automatically puts pets away.Make PC NA raiding great again!
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