Unbroken version of the game will be available in the crown store -- in installments.
I wont be buying the expansion- I love this game, but almost every aspect of the game has a key mechanism broken and yet there is nothing but silence officially -- while they continue to comment on most of these.
the communication here is some of the worst Ive ever seen...
Bigevilpeter wrote: »First and biggest problem, I'm gonna pay the 40$ only to play the Warden class, dont care about the other stuff. Problem is I have all 8 slots full so I need to buy 2 more slots for Stamina and Magika Warden which is another 30$.
So 70$ Just to play the new class? No Thank you.
Follow that with the removal of sustain cp options to balance pvp and ruin pve and which is what I play 90% of the time? Not to mention VMA without sustain.
Another thing is the horrible RNG which ZOS intends to keep this way by design.
The horrible trait system which is only one viable trait and the rest is trash
The horrible balance?
The horrible bugs and lags?
But all they keep doing is making crown crates, housing and more cosmetics just to make more money.
Unbroken version of the game will be available in the crown store -- in installments.
I wont be buying the expansion- I love this game, but almost every aspect of the game has a key mechanism broken and yet there is nothing but silence officially -- while they continue to comment on most of these.
the communication here is some of the worst Ive ever seen...
I really enjoy this game. It is set in Elder Scrolls universe. It has awesome voice acting, quest and lore. Content on this game is amazing.
I wanted to make a list of working content, the shortest list I have made. Game feels like an alpha testing sometimes and it gets even worse in each patch.
10 minute loading screen? Mails disappearing? Trade window open for exploiting and scams? Running on the horse! Guild traders bugging out not showing items! Daily random dungeon not rewarding the xp and the crate! Dungeon finder kicking people out or putting 5 people into same group for same dungeon that was half way done???
No backbag space increase since release? (Buy e$o plus...) added a new DLC, renamed it expansion??? Real $$ please you can't use your 10000 crowns or eso+ sub for this one cause it is 5% larger than other DLC.
This trend is not good for the awesome potential of this game.We have so many content but quality of life in eso takes a beating in every patch. Forums are the only place that we can argue and communicate freely. I hope officials are reading the frustration because of some broken content and satisfaction of absolutely awesome content.
Love you all, thanks for this awesome game, please fix issues in it asap so we can enjoy it even more.
These threads remind me of people in relationships who threaten to break up/get divorced everytime they're unhappy but never do it. In Every forums of every game i have ever played-are the quitting threads and the "the game is dying" threads. I watched those threads in wow all these years. n yet...here it still is. You'd think people would learn that these are useless. i get it. i've been upset to the point i wanted to quit. But you settle down and realize you don't ACTUALLY. You just want things to be less aggravating/disappointing. So should prob'ly just say that. But with the realization that none of us are children whose whims will be catered to. Adapt or go. It's that way with everything in life
Morrowind is $60 on console and we have to pay to play online on top of paying for internet...so yeah
White wabbit wrote: »
If you have not realise by now, long term players aren't where the money is at for zos. They are very clearly focusing on getting new players to join and once they joined zos could care less
If you have not realise by now, long term players aren't where the money is at for zos. They are very clearly focusing on getting new players to join and once they joined zos could care less
Exactly. Long-term players are in fact a resource drain for ZOS. New players have to buy the game and ZOS take all the money off the table at that point. Long-terms players either sub or just go F2P, but either way they utilise more than they put in unless they are Crown Crate addicts.
If you have not realise by now, long term players aren't where the money is at for zos. They are very clearly focusing on getting new players to join and once they joined zos could care less
Exactly. Long-term players are in fact a resource drain for ZOS. New players have to buy the game and ZOS take all the money off the table at that point. Long-terms players either sub or just go F2P, but either way they utilise more than they put in unless they are Crown Crate addicts.
What the hell that even mean??? Game, expansion, sub cost the same for all. Some of us are paying for this game for 3 years now without a break. CS items with a few exception offer the same benefit to all players. Who will buy Morrowind and additional content/items first? People who are old fans of this game and desperately jump on anything new, or newjoiners who have the whole base game yet to explore?
Doctordarkspawn wrote: »These threads remind me of people in relationships who threaten to break up/get divorced everytime they're unhappy but never do it. In Every forums of every game i have ever played-are the quitting threads and the "the game is dying" threads. I watched those threads in wow all these years. n yet...here it still is. You'd think people would learn that these are useless. i get it. i've been upset to the point i wanted to quit. But you settle down and realize you don't ACTUALLY. You just want things to be less aggravating/disappointing. So should prob'ly just say that. But with the realization that none of us are children whose whims will be catered to. Adapt or go. It's that way with everything in life
Thank god we dont have to stop talking on -your- account, then.
I've been railing against the possible changes to the CP system since we ever saw the screenshots. Unluckily for you, however, I actually have alternatives. Singleplayer games, For Honor, both of which I play regularly in the place ESO once filled.
I have the ability to move on, and likely will if this goes through. And again, thank whatever is holy, sacred or intelligent you dont decide how we get to use our voices.
Can you be anymore entitled?Bigevilpeter wrote: »Oh i've paid way more than 70$ for this game on so many things, even subbed for a while, i ve been playing for 2 years now and have a lot of time and money to this game, so me expecting some work from ZOS is not too much to ask for.
@zaria , Two reasons : First, it comes down to storage space (server side) for the additional slots, plus the inventory slots involved.Yes, and I fail to understand why its an limit on character slots you have to buy in the first place.
Method of delivery may have been the defining factor in the past, but is not the only definition. Devs are free to call it what they like, which is why they opted for "Chapters" instead of expansion, making it neither addon DLC, nor an expansion by industry standard (talk about an oxymoron) terminology.Technically an expansion is additional content who comes on an disc. it might also be download but has to have an disc option.
Dlc is download only.
@Myrrah , Or people that threaten to leave the country if a particular individual gets elected. (I'm agreeing with you, btw.)These threads remind me of people in relationships who threaten to break up/get divorced everytime they're unhappy but never do it. In Every forums of every game i have ever played-are the quitting threads and the "the game is dying" threads. I watched those threads in wow all these years. n yet...here it still is. You'd think people would learn that these are useless. i get it. i've been upset to the point i wanted to quit. But you settle down and realize you don't ACTUALLY. You just want things to be less aggravating/disappointing. So should prob'ly just say that. But with the realization that none of us are children whose whims will be catered to. Adapt or go. It's that way with everything in life
Perhaps ZoS should consider changing their income model, perhaps all subs, with content delivered for free? Oh, wait...If you have not realise by now, long term players aren't where the money is at for zos. They are very clearly focusing on getting new players to join and once they joined zos could care less
Exactly. Long-term players are in fact a resource drain for ZOS. New players have to buy the game and ZOS take all the money off the table at that point. Long-terms players either sub or just go F2P, but either way they utilise more than they put in unless they are Crown Crate addicts.
So, save yourself $10, get the expansion and the base game and the adventurers pack, make a second unsubbed account, get *8* character slots and make wardens to your heart's content.
This is a moronic suggestion.
Can we share mounts, costumes and the like with second accounts? Achievements for all the dyes? Champion Points?
No, no and no again.
Storage is not an problem, an character is just an list with stats and data. same with the gear.Merlin13KAGL wrote: »@zaria , Two reasons : First, it comes down to storage space (server side) for the additional slots, plus the inventory slots involved.Yes, and I fail to understand why its an limit on character slots you have to buy in the first place.
In game, it's an issue because it provides additional inventory space (mules) that standard players will not have access to, and with unlimited slot purchases -> unlimited storage.
I would like to see a way to be able to export your character and set as inactive - this opening up a slot (saved locally on your own machine, encrypted to prevent tampering, and locked to the original account to prevent selling).
This would allow one to try new characters without having to delete Veterans (in terms of longevity). You'd be required to empty the inventory (including worn items) first or lose the items (see above) and once set to inactive, there would be a 30 day or so cooldown before you could reinstate the character, to keep it from being exploited or taxing the server too much.Method of delivery may have been the defining factor in the past, but is not the only definition. Devs are free to call it what they like, which is why they opted for "Chapters" instead of expansion, making it neither addon DLC, nor an expansion by industry standard (talk about an oxymoron) terminology.Technically an expansion is additional content who comes on an disc. it might also be download but has to have an disc option.
Dlc is download only.@Myrrah , Or people that threaten to leave the country if a particular individual gets elected. (I'm agreeing with you, btw.)These threads remind me of people in relationships who threaten to break up/get divorced everytime they're unhappy but never do it. In Every forums of every game i have ever played-are the quitting threads and the "the game is dying" threads. I watched those threads in wow all these years. n yet...here it still is. You'd think people would learn that these are useless. i get it. i've been upset to the point i wanted to quit. But you settle down and realize you don't ACTUALLY. You just want things to be less aggravating/disappointing. So should prob'ly just say that. But with the realization that none of us are children whose whims will be catered to. Adapt or go. It's that way with everything in life
I think there should be an obligation with 'threats like this. Make a checkbox that commits to what you're threatening to do if X happens.
Show your commitment to your cause - when it does happen, the little checkbox you sign causes your account to be wiped clean. I mean, you're leaving anyway if this thing goes through, right?
To whom it may conern: Put your $ where your mouth is, or STFU about it...Perhaps ZoS should consider changing their income model, perhaps all subs, with content delivered for free? Oh, wait...If you have not realise by now, long term players aren't where the money is at for zos. They are very clearly focusing on getting new players to join and once they joined zos could care less
Exactly. Long-term players are in fact a resource drain for ZOS. New players have to buy the game and ZOS take all the money off the table at that point. Long-terms players either sub or just go F2P, but either way they utilise more than they put in unless they are Crown Crate addicts.
I'm still impressed by people who do quests in this game, Open World PvE in this game is not only rewardless and empty but it also boring, easy and you feel like you haven't done anything, if you compare to others game where events are still played even by players with 3 years into the game because of their rewards and how funny they are ESO looks ridiculous, you complete a quest, you get a blue item that you can sell for 48 gold and you're done, in others game questing and events gives incredibly good rewards, yellow-orange items, mats, gold, bags to open for more rewards and another currency all at the same time not only one, in ESO besides Trials, vMsa and PvP I won't do anything because of how boring and rewardless is the rest, well, PvP is rewardless also but Zenimax have created the best MMO PvP game in the wolrd so I'm not gonna complain about my Charged Resto staff of Fury that I receive every 5 minutes.
Bigevilpeter wrote: »First and biggest problem, I'm gonna pay the 40$ only to play the Warden class, dont care about the other stuff. Problem is I have all 8 slots full so I need to buy 2 more slots for Stamina and Magika Warden which is another 30$.
So 70$ Just to play the new class? No Thank you.
Follow that with the removal of sustain cp options to balance pvp and ruin pve and which is what I play 90% of the time? Not to mention VMA without sustain.
Another thing is the horrible RNG which ZOS intends to keep this way by design.
The horrible trait system which is only one viable trait and the rest is trash
The horrible balance?
The horrible bugs and lags?
But all they keep doing is making crown crates, housing and more cosmetics just to make more money.
I had no issues with Morrowind until I read about the CP changes but maybe there's more to it, maybe they wanna make skills cheaper to use or something so let's wait and see. At the same time, knowing who's in charge of this stuff, there might not be more to it.Bigevilpeter wrote: »Follow that with the removal of sustain cp options to balance pvp and ruin pve and which is what I play 90% of the time? Not to mention VMA without sustain.
Riga_Mortis wrote: »DRXHarbinger wrote: »Don't you get two extra slots with the expansion?
Nope. Slots will be available for purchase in the crown store.
This is 1 of the problems I too have with deciding to get Morrowind or not. I like to have mag and stam versions of all classes and would also need to purchase 2 additiional slots if they're not included with the expansion.
Really hoping ZOS see the benefit of maybe offering character slots included with the expansion as an incentive to those that are undecided about buying Morrowind.