My house looks lived in including plates cups and other related items. I am at 670 items and have a 3 story deck thing behind my house with all the craft stations on top.

I honestly don't see how people can't make the house look presentable with 700 slots. I have flowers, bushes, a mushroom garden. Built a platform inside the house with stuff to have extra floor space to place items.

Now I would not mind having more space, well because more is always good imo. But if you think about things you can easily make the house look good and full with a 700 item limit. Now those without eso+, well I guys you better subscribe if you want a full manor

Most everything I would like to see put into housing has already been mentioned but there is one I think has been left out?

I would like to be able to scale certain items. Each of my characters that I play have their own houses to fit them. My Vampire gets to have the Vampire related trophies in his house but none of my other characters are going to get those trophies unless they earn them themselves. Two of my characters are Master fishermen so they get a boat. The others do not. I would like to show off all the houses without changing primary residence and that has been mentioned. Big fan of that.

Getting to my point though some of my characters have houses with not much space. One I put in small bookshelves and was going to put in a few books. The books do not fit. They either stick out the top or have to be sunk into the bookshelf. On the top shelf they just go through the shelf. Also some bottles, vases and that huge round bread are to large for my stands and tables.

I would like to be able to scale certain items some so they fit better. Might be a nightmare to implement or simply not possible but if not to much of a nightmare to make happen is something I would really like to see.

Well, I agree that they need to do something about the limit on the homes, but I don't necessarily agree with the OP on the individual points.

Frankly, some of that rings the same as the folks that seem to expect unlimited options for storage (in housing or in banks). Players need to accept that inventory management is part of the game and that even if storage is added to housing, it won't give you the type of storage you want (as in dropping a million objects in a chest like skyrim and making banks and horse upgrades mostly useless).

Same can be said for some of the expectations of build space. You can't have it all. I think expecting to store all 300 lore books is not realistic, and expecting the have one each of crafting stations for every set in the game is even crazier. They have rows of decorative books in game to fill up shelves, so I always took the lore book option to mean it's there to decorate by dropping an individual book down on a table or wherever to add to the clutter. I even have seen some players expect to fill up a library of books and then just make a new character and go read them all just to 'find' them and max out mage guild line immediately.

That being said, I do think build space should be increased some. I've only been able to truly "fill up" a couple small homes (that also have no courtyard to use up build space items) and frankly some are just down right horrible on the amount of room they have to build. Forget clutter, you'll be lucky to make them look full just by putting giant statues and other furniture around to eat up room.

However, I think there are other ways to artificially give more build space without raising the cap a bunch. In addition to a small increase in build space (I'd give like and extra 10 small/25 medium/50 large/100 grand for example) I would create more combined furniture pieces. Much like the pre-filled Redguard book shelf - there should be pre-filled cabinets, shelves for all racial styles, counters, etc. There should be pre-created store-room style stuff as well - barrel piles, crate piles, workshop shelves, etc. Merchant stalls/carts. Etc. - Options like this would free up a lot more space than people might think (I went from using a row of shelves with book rows and other decor on them to using the redguard filled shelves and it freed up about fifty slots just for that five shelf row) but I would also think it would be easier on the game to load a pre-made setup than a bunch of individual items/placements.

I have decorated several homes so far of various sizes and definitely agree that build space is terrible for some units. I've also seen a lot of other homes and frankly, some players go off on some really weird and creative tangent building something that eats up A LOT of build space just to create something cool. Granted, I think those are great ideas and love seeing them, I don't think we should just arbitrarily raise build space to eliminate any creativity in managing that space, at least not raised to any point that would hurt performance.

I don't know - how many crafting stations can I fit in my manor?
Don't have any need for anything else.

A higher limit overall that lets you have more of what you want would be nice certainly, but I also think people are wanting too much. There seems to be a good amount of items you can fit as is, I think some people just want to have a preposterous amount of things, I have my place packed just about and the limit seems almost perfect for how much room I need to fill. Ultimately some more space would be nice, but some people will never be satisfied unless their house looks like it belongs on a TV show about hoarding.

Lucius_Aelius wrote: »

A higher limit overall that lets you have more of what you want would be nice certainly, but I also think people are wanting too much. There seems to be a good amount of items you can fit as is, I think some people just want to have a preposterous amount of things, I have my place packed just about and the limit seems almost perfect for how much room I need to fill. Ultimately some more space would be nice, but some people will never be satisfied unless their house looks like it belongs on a TV show about hoarding.

It's nice that you are happy with the item limit, however there is no need to try and be insulting towards those of us who would like to have more item slots. Many of us who are requesting more slots have large homes that also have an outside to decorate. I know I have more than 90 items placed outside of my home, shrubs/trees, because I love a beautiful garden/outdoors & I am only a quarter done. Anyway, you can have your opinion about what you like your house to look like without trying to insult others who aren't happy.

I actually have one section of my garden with around 100 items in it. Everyone who visits says it's the most wondrous garden they've ever seen and stop to sit on the bench and enjoy the splendour and the butterflies and the serenity it invokes. I don't think this involves hoarding at all. It's just a really nice way to showcase a little corner of my estate. Definitely causing some problems though capacity wise.

I would've loved to even incorporate some of the small blue and white flowers I think that came from a weekend vendor (not the glowing ones), but they're so small (about 3 blossoms each) that I can't justify the slot for them.

Yeah I have no idea what can be done, or how they can go about doing it, but if it CAN be done then it NEEDS to be done. I'm well aware that the cap is to test performance and that I'm ok with. I'm happy to wait for them to decide that it's all going smoothly and to increase it. The major problems though that I see are the (again on my soap box) the 287 Lore Books and all the small items.

I was thinking last night about setting up a dinner table in a grand hall for all 24 people that are capped to be in your house, and unless you want 24 chicken dinners then for cutlery, plates, a meal of 2 serves, a goblet and a sweetroll for dessert then you're looking at 168 items, not including the tables, chairs, bottles of wine, candles etc. You could be looking at 200 items just to throw a dinner party. That's not hoarding. It's just enjoying your manor with friends. Oh well. Won't be happening.

Lucius_Aelius wrote: »

A higher limit overall that lets you have more of what you want would be nice certainly, but I also think people are wanting too much. There seems to be a good amount of items you can fit as is, I think some people just want to have a preposterous amount of things, I have my place packed just about and the limit seems almost perfect for how much room I need to fill. Ultimately some more space would be nice, but some people will never be satisfied unless their house looks like it belongs on a TV show about hoarding.

I think it's more about the fact that NPC areas have better decor than Player housing. Want a good example, Stay-Moist Mansion. Go to Balfoyen and wander around that large building in the middle cause that is a perfect copy of Stay-Moist. Look at all the stuff in there and count. Don't forget the rocks! Don't forget the upper floor! To accomplish that, I'd need to be a subber and I'd probably max the limit doing just the inside to look like that. If not, I'd have enough space for maybe putting a tree or two outside and that's it.

Now to really add in some depth, watch their homestead trailer again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LKTAXllNPg

That small Khajiit home? Is Moonmirth House. 100 items for non-sub, 200 for sub. The books on the floor probably take up most the space, then all those small items, the rug, etc. Basically people are frustrated with the limit not because they want to be hoarders, they want to actually be able to decorate. I mean lord, the medium Nord home, count the sweet rolls. That's a fair chunk of items right there. So instead of having a nice full looking home we can either go, well here's the kitchen but ignore the fact that I have bare shelves, we can actually go, look loaves of bread on the shelves in the kitchen, books and scrolls on the bookshelves, etc.

Yep. Ive run into the dreaded lorebook issue as well... This is lame. What do I need to do? Spend $200 on Palace just to get the space to place all my goods when my Velothi House isn't even decorated yet?... Besides of course my Lorebooks and a few other items.

It needs to be raised. I have placed 700 unique items... My manor looks less like a house and more like a hodge podge of various artifacts...

Lorebooks alone killed a ton of spots.