No, it's on plenty of set pieces (as is Intricate) that drop from quests.

casparian wrote: »

No, it's on plenty of set pieces (as is Intricate) that drop from quests.

This might be from quest as in thief guild reward bag, tend to look at quest rewards but might been in an hurry.

And yes its totaly idiotic
Training and prosperous has its place, on crafted gear, perhaps also for low level drops.

Duckbutta wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

ViciousVamps1 wrote: »

RebornV3x wrote: »

Worst trait is probably Training followed by Prosperous which is useless on cp160 sets that shouldn't even drop in the first place.

No training is better for getting to 50 prosperous is better for nothing

The additional XP from training gear does not stop at level 50.

7 purple pieces of the CP160 Trainee set = +70% XP from kills

I leave it up to you to figure out the use for that on CP characters ...

When you have max cp, the training trait is useless. Prosperous is useless as well, particularly once you have lots of gold, there really is no justification for these traits existed on dropped sets.

I have almost 700 CPs and use make use of my CP150 training gear, though I agree it doesn't belong on dropped end game gear.

runagate wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

ViciousVamps1 wrote: »

RebornV3x wrote: »

Worst trait is probably Training followed by Prosperous which is useless on cp160 sets that shouldn't even drop in the first place.

No training is better for getting to 50 prosperous is better for nothing

The additional XP from training gear does not stop at level 50.

7 purple pieces of the CP160 Trainee set = +70% XP from kills

I leave it up to you to figure out the use for that on CP characters ...

Well, you're both wrong inasmuch as you're both being deceitful and misleading to flog your pet cause. Training is in fact useless post CP cap, currently 600, and most assuredly shouldn't be on anything that, by using it, would preclude you from getting the reward e.g. vMA.

One of you is better than this spreading of misinformation. One of you should have been banned for pointless, constant, attention seeking spam with no redeeming value whatsoever in their first 24 hours on these forums.

Training on cp160 gear is useful to a cp180 character, considering how often people kick low cp people from groups.

Also, if you have 600 champ points and know that the cap is being raised to 630 then training gear is useful in preparing you for when that happens.

So... @runagate is mistaken.

zaria wrote: »

casparian wrote: »

No, it's on plenty of set pieces (as is Intricate) that drop from quests.

This might be from quest as in thief guild reward bag, tend to look at quest rewards but might been in an hurry.

And yes its totaly idiotic
Training and prosperous has its place, on crafted gear, perhaps also for low level drops.

Prosperous has no place except as a research item or a source of mats by deconstruction.

Impenetrable is the most useless in PvE, might as well have no trait at all

Personally I think they should remove training from all gear except the Trainee. That way people can still learn the trait and crafted gear will be more desirable for grinding gear.

Likewise prosperous should be reworked to ADD gold to all "owned" containers and be renamed to "skulking" or something. And by add I mean every container has a few gold per piece. Should only drop on certain gear sets (dark stride, night mother, etc)

Well fitted should also reduce cost of sneaking.

Sharpened should be slightly nerfed to bring it's damage increase inline with precise.

Defending should be slightly nerfed to match the sharp nerf. Shields should give more armour than a defending staff anyway.

Nirn weapons should be buffed to bring their damage up to where sharp is right now.

Ornate is bad on set drops Training & Prosperous are just as bad though on dropped items.

I am at CP703 & I've never used training trait. Catching up to the CP cap has always been a breeze & there is just no need to gimp your build with training traits. I support other players using it, if that's what they want but IMO it should only come as a craftable trait... not on CP160 dropped items. Same goes for Prosperous... I'm sure a very small amount of players do use it but to the vast majority it's just decon fodder. It's so disappointing getting either of these junk traits on good set pieces, especially monster sets.

Tannus15 wrote: »

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

Impenetrable is the most useless in PvE, might as well have no trait at all

I'm fine with this. Nothing wrong with 1 trait out of 9 being only for PVP.

Oh, I have no problem with it either, just remarking on its PvE usefullness.

Edit: spelling

zyk wrote: »

Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »

Impenetrable is the most useless in PvE, might as well have no trait at all

Untrue. Most PVE content is so ridiculously easy, one might as well save gold on repairs by using impen for many tasks.

This could be said for ANY trait that you don't personally use... but Impenetrable is useless in PvE since enemies don't 'crit', and that's the whole point of Impenetrable.

SirAndy wrote: »

runagate wrote: »

Literally just said the first part, and no one at 600 CP is going to craft training gear to get 30 CP. I get a CP a day just doing writs and such. So... troll is obvious troll.

You obviously don't talk to people in-game much. I know quite a few people that are past CP600 and still slap on 7 or 9 pieces of Trainee gear when they go grinding.

Not everyone is convinced that CP600 will be the max cap for the rest of time ...

LOL. How many players will I need to talk to before I find ONE that uses Training or Prosperous on dropped set items? In my whole time playing since the training & prosperous traits were introduced, I have not seen one player that wanted these traits & way more often it's players groaning about getting drops with training or prosperous. It is very common in voice chat for players to offer up some set piece like "hey anyone want BSW robe training?" & everyone just laughs & tells them to decon it & get it out of them game!