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Magicka Nightblade

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Metal10957
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What are the best races(or race) for a magicka nightblade and why? Thanks in advance.
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  • kojou
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    Dunmer or Altmer

    A little more flame damage on the Dunmer and a little more sustain on the Altmer. Since you will be most likely using a flame staff, force pulse, and blockade you want the elemental buffs.
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  • Foxic
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    For pve dunmer. Because a considerable amount of their damage is flame.

    I would say dunmer for pvp too because sustain is fine with siphoning attacks. And most magblade pvp is centered around eye of the flame

    Edit : here is a video of my dunmer magblade https://youtu.be/EEc7MMOtZh0
    Edited by Foxic on March 10, 2017 3:30PM
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  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Depends on what you are going for...

    DPS:
    Altmer (10 % bonus to Max Magicka = more dmg)
    Breton (Reduced Magicka cost of your abilities by 3% = cheaper DPS skills to spam)

    Healer
    Breton (Reduced Magicka cost of your abilities by 3% = cheaper heals to spam)
    Argonian (5 % bonus to healing done and received, good resource management - potion passive)

    Tank
    Argonian (9% bonus to Max Health, bonus to Poison and Disease Resistance and good resource management - potion passive)

  • Foxic
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    Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
    Depends on what you are going for...

    DPS:
    Altmer (10 % bonus to Max Magicka = more dmg)
    Breton (Reduced Magicka cost of your abilities by 3% = cheaper DPS skills to spam)

    Healer
    Breton (Reduced Magicka cost of your abilities by 3% = cheaper heals to spam)
    Argonian (5 % bonus to healing done and received, good resource management - potion passive)

    Tank
    Argonian (9% bonus to Max Health, bonus to Poison and Disease Resistance and good resource management - potion passive)

    You have Breton on your damage list but not dunmer?
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  • cpuScientist
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    Go altmer. While it's true dunmer will give a sliver a TINY sliver more DPS. Just go for the added sustain. The only really good reason to go Dunmer is if you plan on being vampire. It does make the fire damage at max rank easier to deal with.
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    My second char back in 2014 was a magblade dunmer vampire and it has been a lot of fun in the past and was my main in pvp. Now is not that good anymore. Magblades need some serious help from zos.
    Edited by RazielSR on March 10, 2017 4:12PM
  • Metal10957
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    I solo and do occasional dungeons. I want a race that can solo easily and hopefully kill quickly. I love Bretons, but I don't see more damage there, sustain is awesome though.
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  • RazielSR
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    My most fun soloing has been with the dunmer magblade and the redguard stamplar.
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    ztyhurstub17_ESO wrote: »
    Dunmer or Altmer

    A little more flame damage on the Dunmer and a little more sustain on the Altmer. Since you will be most likely using a flame staff, force pulse, and blockade you want the elemental buffs.

    This exactly.

    In trials sustain should not be an issue except for groups learning the content.

    Edit: and they're just fine for solo as well.
    Edited by idk on March 10, 2017 4:53PM
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    TotallyNotVos wrote: »
    Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
    Depends on what you are going for...

    DPS:
    Altmer (10 % bonus to Max Magicka = more dmg)
    Breton (Reduced Magicka cost of your abilities by 3% = cheaper DPS skills to spam)

    Healer
    Breton (Reduced Magicka cost of your abilities by 3% = cheaper heals to spam)
    Argonian (5 % bonus to healing done and received, good resource management - potion passive)

    Tank
    Argonian (9% bonus to Max Health, bonus to Poison and Disease Resistance and good resource management - potion passive)

    You have Breton on your damage list but not dunmer?

    Depends from a build
    Dunmer has +6% max magicka & + 7% Flame Damage and + 2% Frost / Shock dmg
    Breton on the other hand has + 10% Max Magicka.

    So i depends on your build.. one can have more dmg on Dunmer the other on Breton & vice versa.
  • MythicEmperor
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    Take my advice: roll a magsorc. I mained a magblade for over a year, but ZOS would never buff them (They suck). I ran vet trials and such and I always had a bit more difficulty than the others. Then, I switched to magsorc. Wearing the same exact gear, I do 6-8k more DPS. I also feel less squishy, oddly enough, and pets can be fun for messing around.

    To answer your actual question, roll a Dunmer. Don't be a N'wah fetcher.
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    Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
    Vadusa Venim, Dunmer crafter (older main)
    Hir Hlaalu, Dunmer Warden
    Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
    Fargoth of Morrowind, Bosmer commoner
  • EldritchPenguin
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    cpuScientist wrote: »
    Go altmer. While it's true dunmer will give a sliver a TINY sliver more DPS. Just go for the added sustain. The only really good reason to go Dunmer is if you plan on being vampire. It does make the fire damage at max rank easier to deal with.
    I don't think you need the sustain on a Nightblade. Every other Magicka DPS setup, absolutely. But Nightblade is the only one that doesn't have sustain problems, so it doesn't make as much sense to lose the Dunmer's damage there.
    Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
    TotallyNotVos wrote: »
    Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
    Depends on what you are going for...

    DPS:
    Altmer (10 % bonus to Max Magicka = more dmg)
    Breton (Reduced Magicka cost of your abilities by 3% = cheaper DPS skills to spam)

    Healer
    Breton (Reduced Magicka cost of your abilities by 3% = cheaper heals to spam)
    Argonian (5 % bonus to healing done and received, good resource management - potion passive)

    Tank
    Argonian (9% bonus to Max Health, bonus to Poison and Disease Resistance and good resource management - potion passive)

    You have Breton on your damage list but not dunmer?

    Depends from a build
    Dunmer has +6% max magicka & + 7% Flame Damage and + 2% Frost / Shock dmg
    Breton on the other hand has + 10% Max Magicka.

    So i depends on your build.. one can have more dmg on Dunmer the other on Breton & vice versa.
    Dunmer actually has 9% increased Magicka; 6% from the Dynamic passive and 3% from the Resist Fire passive.
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    Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
    TotallyNotVos wrote: »
    Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
    Depends on what you are going for...

    DPS:
    Altmer (10 % bonus to Max Magicka = more dmg)
    Breton (Reduced Magicka cost of your abilities by 3% = cheaper DPS skills to spam)

    Healer
    Breton (Reduced Magicka cost of your abilities by 3% = cheaper heals to spam)
    Argonian (5 % bonus to healing done and received, good resource management - potion passive)

    Tank
    Argonian (9% bonus to Max Health, bonus to Poison and Disease Resistance and good resource management - potion passive)

    You have Breton on your damage list but not dunmer?

    Depends from a build
    Dunmer has +6% max magicka & + 7% Flame Damage and + 2% Frost / Shock dmg
    Breton on the other hand has + 10% Max Magicka.

    So i depends on your build.. one can have more dmg on Dunmer the other on Breton & vice versa.

    @Tommy_The_Gun

    Your dunmer numbers are off. Dunmers have 9% max magika and the 1% diff between Breton and dunmer will not be missed.

    which is why dunmer and altmer trump a Breton.
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
    TotallyNotVos wrote: »
    Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
    Depends on what you are going for...

    DPS:
    Altmer (10 % bonus to Max Magicka = more dmg)
    Breton (Reduced Magicka cost of your abilities by 3% = cheaper DPS skills to spam)

    Healer
    Breton (Reduced Magicka cost of your abilities by 3% = cheaper heals to spam)
    Argonian (5 % bonus to healing done and received, good resource management - potion passive)

    Tank
    Argonian (9% bonus to Max Health, bonus to Poison and Disease Resistance and good resource management - potion passive)

    You have Breton on your damage list but not dunmer?

    Depends from a build
    Dunmer has +6% max magicka & + 7% Flame Damage and + 2% Frost / Shock dmg
    Breton on the other hand has + 10% Max Magicka.

    So i depends on your build.. one can have more dmg on Dunmer the other on Breton & vice versa.

    Someone needs to read the passives again. Breton is a magic race, but it's NOT a magic DPS race. The elemental boosts from dunmer/altmer are huge. As Nightblades do a lot of flame damage, dunmer is better.

    Dunmer for NB all day if you goal is to DPS. Altmer is a close second.
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    Altmer errday allday.
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  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »
    Someone needs to read the passives again.
    Sorry, my mistake (I made a typo :p )
    Dunmer has + 9% max magicka...

    So if DPS is your priority in your build - go for Dunmer or Altmer.
    Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on March 11, 2017 1:32PM
  • Masel
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    MythicEmperor wrote: »
    Take my advice: roll a magsorc. I mained a magblade for over a year, but ZOS would never buff them (They suck). I ran vet trials and such and I always had a bit more difficulty than the others. Then, I switched to magsorc. Wearing the same exact gear, I do 6-8k more DPS. I also feel less squishy, oddly enough, and pets can be fun for messing around.

    To answer your actual question, roll a Dunmer. Don't be a N'wah fetcher.

    Why would you think magblades suck? They're fun to play and dish out strong damage if done right and on top of that they are very survivable.
    Edited by Masel on March 10, 2017 8:46PM
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  • MythicEmperor
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    Masel92 wrote: »
    MythicEmperor wrote: »
    Take my advice: roll a magsorc. I mained a magblade for over a year, but ZOS would never buff them (They suck). I ran vet trials and such and I always had a bit more difficulty than the others. Then, I switched to magsorc. Wearing the same exact gear, I do 6-8k more DPS. I also feel less squishy, oddly enough, and pets can be fun for messing around.

    To answer your actual question, roll a Dunmer. Don't be a N'wah fetcher.

    Why would you think magblades suck? They're fun to play and dish out strong damage if done right and on top of that they are very survivable.

    Because I can do thousands more damage with the same gear on a sorc, having more survivability with hardened ward. I want to love magblades (I love the warlock archetype), but ZOS won't let me.
    With cold regards,
    Mythic

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    Kilith Telvayn, Dunmer Telvanni Sorcerer (main)
    Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
    Vadusa Venim, Dunmer crafter (older main)
    Hir Hlaalu, Dunmer Warden
    Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
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  • mb10
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    Altmer, no question.

    Mag NBs can easily get 45k max mag and the max mag passive helps a lot.

    Recovery passive too and you get 3% flame damage too.
    The 7% flame damage from dunmer is definitely not enough I compete at all.

    Pve and pvp is altmer
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    mb10 wrote: »
    Altmer, no question.

    Mag NBs can easily get 45k max mag and the max mag passive helps a lot.

    Recovery passive too and you get 3% flame damage too.
    The 7% flame damage from dunmer is definitely not enough I compete at all.

    Pve and pvp is altmer

    OK let's just ignore that all of the top magblade dps are dunmer for a second. Do you honestly think that 1% magicka can compete with 3% flame damage?
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  • Tryxus
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    PvE: Dunmer
    PvP: Dun't matter :p -> Altmer, Argonian, Breton or Dunmer all work well
    Edited by Tryxus on March 11, 2017 3:43PM
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  • Lexxypwns
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    Pvp: altmer/Breton
  • Eleusian
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    Gank build single target firestaff = Dunmer
    Zerg Busting AOE Bomber lighting staff = Altmer


    Hardly any difference especially in cyrodill . Pick what u like between any of the 3 mentioned and you will be happy.

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    Eleusian wrote: »
    PVP
    Gank build single target firestaff = Dunmer
    Zerg Busting AOE Bomber lighting staff = Altmer


    Hardly any difference especially in cyrodill . Pick what u like between any of the 3 mentioned and you will be happy.

    Fire destro is better for bombing because vamps take 20% more fire damage, btw
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    TotallyNotVos wrote: »
    mb10 wrote: »
    Altmer, no question.

    Mag NBs can easily get 45k max mag and the max mag passive helps a lot.

    Recovery passive too and you get 3% flame damage too.
    The 7% flame damage from dunmer is definitely not enough I compete at all.

    Pve and pvp is altmer

    OK let's just ignore that all of the top magblade dps are dunmer for a second. Do you honestly think that 1% magicka can compete with 3% flame damage?

    The best magicka NB is probably kena and guess what? He's a high elf
    It's not just 1% max magicka it's 9% extra recovery.
    Most nb skills aren't even flame damage apart from the light and heavy attacks which can work without 3% extra lmao

    You're points are so invalid btw "all the best players do it so it's correct" no. Mathematically a altmer IS better and even with that stupid point most people are actually high elfs anyway
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    http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/UnfadingSilence/screenshot/5800887

    This is my current PVE NB I have been running for some time now for trials and VMA and dungeons still working of golding out the gear but I like it so far and it's full buff stats as well and Dunmer ALL DAY :)
    Edited by Unfadingsilence on March 11, 2017 8:20AM
  • Toc de Malsvi
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    Best race is unquestionably Bosmer.
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  • joaaocaampos
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    *** off! If I want, I can create a Breton for all my Magicka DPS builds. ¬¬
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    Metal10957 wrote: »
    What are the best races(or race) for a magicka nightblade and why? Thanks in advance.

    The final answer is: Altmer, Breton, Dunmer all work well.
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    mb10 wrote: »
    TotallyNotVos wrote: »
    mb10 wrote: »
    Altmer, no question.

    Mag NBs can easily get 45k max mag and the max mag passive helps a lot.

    Recovery passive too and you get 3% flame damage too.
    The 7% flame damage from dunmer is definitely not enough I compete at all.

    Pve and pvp is altmer

    OK let's just ignore that all of the top magblade dps are dunmer for a second. Do you honestly think that 1% magicka can compete with 3% flame damage?

    The best magicka NB is probably kena and guess what? He's a high elf
    It's not just 1% max magicka it's 9% extra recovery.
    Most nb skills aren't even flame damage apart from the light and heavy attacks which can work without 3% extra lmao

    You're points are so invalid btw "all the best players do it so it's correct" no. Mathematically a altmer IS better and even with that stupid point most people are actually high elfs anyway

    mathematically, 1% max magicka doesnt beat dunmers flame damage.
    Regen doesnt matter in end game pve.

    An who the hell is "The best magicka NB is probably kena" never heard of a player named kena.
    If you mean the monster set, still no, cos kena can be sustained easy with siphoning.

    Dunmer is best for DPS
    Altmer second best for DPS
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