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Is jewelry crafting coming?
cmetzger93
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I remember Paul sage talking about it a while back and well now that he's gone have the devs talked about it anymore? Anyone care to speculate if it might still be coming?
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SFDB✭✭✭✭✭
✭It was on the list with stuff like spellcrafting as something they were looking to do, but I haven't heard a peep about it (someone please step in and tell me I missed it).
There's a couple hurdles they would need to deal with, the question of whether the rewarding of gold rings would be rendered pointless if 8 gold mats can give anyone the same thing, whether to add it to an existing craft (such as arcane to wood, robust to cloth, healthy to smithing) or as a new one requiring new nodes be added to every map; how to work with trait-restricted crafting stations, and probably more.1 -
zaria✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Jewelry crafting would be far easier to balance than spellcrafting as we have plenty of jewelry sets.
Many ways to do it, an guess is that it would work a bit like other crafting, probably more like smithing than enchanting as its gear. Probably its own crafting line, use gems as tempers, this would also let you upgrade existing jewelry.
And it would be nice as it would be easier to fill out sets.Grinding just make you go in circles.
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SanTii.92✭✭✭✭✭
✭What is so exciting about jewelry crafting that people keep asking. What is it that you want, julianos rings? I don't get it.Edited by SanTii.92 on March 10, 2017 4:46AMWhen the snows fall and the white winds blow,
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ForsakenSin✭✭✭✭✭
✭What is so exciting about jewelry crafting that people keep asking. What is it that you want, julianos rings? I don't get it.
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✭✭✭✭✭It would be nice, though I wonder how they will balance the upgrading side of it if they add that.
I mean right now you farm for a good Epic or Legendary ring/necklace. With crafting (if it's full crafting like others) you just get a Fine quality item and bang it up to Legendary.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭What is so exciting about jewelry crafting that people keep asking. What is it that you want, julianos rings? I don't get it.
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Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Jewlery crafting... Dreaming. Balance? Adding 50 new droped sets in One Tamriel + adding jewlery and weapons for IC sets - cool bro. Adding jewlery for crafted sets? Triggered! No! Balance! Blah blah blah... The only thing that would change would be prices of golden and purple jewlery. Ok lets leave it as it is if you want to - no jewlery upgrades. But let us crat this! Just implement upgrade materials in crafting process and we are good to go. You want gold ring? Fine use 8 tempers (with passives ofc) while creating it and there you go. We cant upgrade existing jewlery but we still can craft it for sets. FFS its one of the basic aspects of the game... Yeah you can craft a sword, an armor, a chair, a bed, but you cant create god da.n ring... *** logic... Yeah its just a game but this restriction is confusing and makes no sense."We are currently investigating connection issues some players are having on the European megaservers. We will update as new information becomes available."
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zaria✭✭✭✭✭
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That is another very relevant thing to do.
Khajiit creates an larger ring and put on end of her tail. Very fancy.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.1 -
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That is another very relevant thing to do.
Khajiit creates an larger ring and put on end of her tail. Very fancy.
This one do not reccomend to do it. When this one did it last time, he ended up on emergency room, yes.2 -
jakeedmundson✭✭✭✭✭If they did make jewel crafting....they would need to buff the trial sets OR nerf some of the crafted sets.
What incentive would people have to do vet trials? if you could just craft a gold set OR farm normal trials for blue jewelry and just upgrade it....
This idea wouldn't end well imo.CP690
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✭✭jakeedmundson wrote: »If they did make jewel crafting....they would need to buff the trial sets OR nerf some of the crafted sets.
What incentive would people have to do vet trials? if you could just craft a gold set OR farm normal trials for blue jewelry and just upgrade it....
This idea wouldn't end well imo.
Yeah because crafted sets now are OP. They are BiS for every piece of content in this game and they need to be nerfed. Lol.4 -
jakeedmundson✭✭✭✭✭jakeedmundson wrote: »If they did make jewel crafting....they would need to buff the trial sets OR nerf some of the crafted sets.
What incentive would people have to do vet trials? if you could just craft a gold set OR farm normal trials for blue jewelry and just upgrade it....
This idea wouldn't end well imo.
Yeah because crafted sets now are OP. They are BiS for every piece of content in this game and they need to be nerfed. Lol.
I'm saying they need to give people some incentive (besides leader board competition) to run vet trials. And crafted sets ARE very strong for how simple they are to get.... compare getting a set of julianos/NMG to getting VO/IA/MD. It's not even a contest. gold trial gear is much harder to earn than crafted gear.
btw.... crafted sets are VERY close to BiS for end game. we're talking within 2k dps...CP690
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MurderMostFoul✭✭✭✭✭
✭Imagine this...
Armor and Weapon traits are governed by jems right? Why not let the jewel crafter "reslot" trait gems to further customize items??????
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Burnemdown✭✭✭jakeedmundson wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »If they did make jewel crafting....they would need to buff the trial sets OR nerf some of the crafted sets.
What incentive would people have to do vet trials? if you could just craft a gold set OR farm normal trials for blue jewelry and just upgrade it....
This idea wouldn't end well imo.
Yeah because crafted sets now are OP. They are BiS for every piece of content in this game and they need to be nerfed. Lol.
I'm saying they need to give people some incentive (besides leader board competition) to run vet trials. And crafted sets ARE very strong for how simple they are to get.... compare getting a set of julianos/NMG to getting VO/IA/MD. It's not even a contest. gold trial gear is much harder to earn than crafted gear.
btw.... crafted sets are VERY close to BiS for end game. we're talking within 2k dps...
Shouldn't the incentive be, " because its fun" ? Bring on some jewel crafting.
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Agree with you here and it should be an progression in content. Crafted gear is easy to get and the difference don't need to be large.jakeedmundson wrote: »jakeedmundson wrote: »If they did make jewel crafting....they would need to buff the trial sets OR nerf some of the crafted sets.
What incentive would people have to do vet trials? if you could just craft a gold set OR farm normal trials for blue jewelry and just upgrade it....
This idea wouldn't end well imo.
Yeah because crafted sets now are OP. They are BiS for every piece of content in this game and they need to be nerfed. Lol.
I'm saying they need to give people some incentive (besides leader board competition) to run vet trials. And crafted sets ARE very strong for how simple they are to get.... compare getting a set of julianos/NMG to getting VO/IA/MD. It's not even a contest. gold trial gear is much harder to earn than crafted gear.
btw.... crafted sets are VERY close to BiS for end game. we're talking within 2k dps...
Tempering of jewelry would upset the balance.
Grinding just make you go in circles.
Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.0 -
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✭Honestly while I see why others want it. I hope not. To be able to go into normal mol and get all the endgame gear easy PZ then just upgrade to gold.... You would never have to farm for gear in difficult content to get them. I like them as a reward for doing the difficult content. But that's like my opinion.0 -
altemriel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭What is so exciting about jewelry crafting that people keep asking. What is it that you want, julianos rings? I don't get it.
lol, in case you are not trolling, if you could craft jewelry to the already existing crafted sets, then you could wear 5 crafted set/5 crafted set/2 monster set1 -
Burnemdown✭✭✭That 2000 dps difference will also get you excluded form end game content, or kicked if you did manage to get in a group.
Crafting should be able to produce BiS gear. The time involved is no joke. This was also suggested as the way things would be, by ZOS from the very beginning.
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✭✭Pleeeease I hate the gear grind.
I am torturing myself using group finder to repeatedly run a dungeon just so I can one more purple ring...
Seriously reducing my enjoyment of the game.
I mean I have enough pieces of the drop with good traits, but I can't get my crafted set as a ring.. its so annoyingEdited by Narvuntien on March 10, 2017 4:19PM0 -
Burnemdown✭✭✭cpuScientist wrote: »Honestly while I see why others want it. I hope not. To be able to go into normal mol and get all the endgame gear easy PZ then just upgrade to gold.... You would never have to farm for gear in difficult content to get them. I like them as a reward for doing the difficult content. But that's like my opinion.
Thats cool too. Lets not let crafters upgrade dropped rings neck. Do let crafters make rings neck for the sets we can produce.
That way you who like the farm can still farm for them. It's about the fun of running that content, Right?0 -
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✭✭cpuScientist wrote: »Honestly while I see why others want it. I hope not. To be able to go into normal mol and get all the endgame gear easy PZ then just upgrade to gold.... You would never have to farm for gear in difficult content to get them. I like them as a reward for doing the difficult content. But that's like my opinion.
That's an issue. Simple solution all crafted jewlery is made gold. ..nothing gets upgraded. I don't think many would have an issue with that. I still have just 1 gold Moondancer ring despite tons of alkosh and everything else. I'd be pissed if others just wandered in and farmed a set in 30 mins.PC Master Race
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jakeedmundson✭✭✭✭✭.Burnemdown wrote: »That 2000 dps difference will also get you excluded form end game content, or kicked if you did manage to get in a group.
Crafting should be able to produce BiS gear. The time involved is no joke. This was also suggested as the way things would be, by ZOS from the very beginning.
um... no... it won't.
most BiS builds are topping 40k. I recently saw a test done between julianos, tbs, scathing mage, BSW... and a couple others.
The person testing had moondancer or aether 3/4 piece i think?... the main idea though is that he/she only changed the 5pc set.
BSW was around 44k dps
Julianos was around 42k dps
TBS and scathing hit just above 40k somewhere.
the point is.... you can hit 42k dps single target using julianos. you will NOT be kicked (even from a vMOL hardcore trial group) for not hitting 44k dps.
I think the minimum that i've ever heard was needing to hit around 30K - 35k dps on the test dummy.CP690
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Dreyloch✭✭✭✭✭I could do without making a crafted set jewelry item. But it would be cool if we could at least change the trait on non-crafted sets. Not all heavy sets have to be healthy. Playing a mDK for instance, I would rather have arcane on Elf bane maybe?
edit: forgot to add, they gave us CP's instead of spell and jewelry crafting. Trying to balance spellcrafting with CP's now, would be beyond insane.Edited by Dreyloch on March 10, 2017 5:22PM"The fear of Death, is often worse than death itself"0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭DRXHarbinger wrote: »cpuScientist wrote: »Honestly while I see why others want it. I hope not. To be able to go into normal mol and get all the endgame gear easy PZ then just upgrade to gold.... You would never have to farm for gear in difficult content to get them. I like them as a reward for doing the difficult content. But that's like my opinion.
That's an issue. Simple solution all crafted jewlery is made gold. ..nothing gets upgraded. I don't think many would have an issue with that. I still have just 1 gold Moondancer ring despite tons of alkosh and everything else. I'd be pissed if others just wandered in and farmed a set in 30 mins.
Or just limit upgrading to a high of purple0 -
Why add something as unbalanced as jewelry crafting? Why not just make current jewelry upgradeable. Makes more sense to me.0 -
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Could you please all read what the others players have to say before speaking yourself? This guy had the best idea ever, it could resolve all your issues. Allow to create jewelry on a specific quality, without upgrade, so farm is still needed, but it would be possible to make crafted sets jewelry at any quality.Just implement upgrade materials in crafting process and we are good to go. You want gold ring? Fine use 8 tempers (with passives ofc) while creating it and there you go
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