No. If you want a challenge mode? I gues, but more loot? Auto gold? No way.

Why not just try it with white, non-set gear? There, instant challenge with no extra code

phillyproduct wrote: »

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Ive took a year off this game came back in January hit cap in champ points and all ready found vdungeon easy they clearly weren't made with 600cp players in mind, even cos and rom can be breezed thru.

Gear can be farmed on normal, helms on vet, and extreme is for the challenge- also 3keys if its the daily 4 with hm on final boss. Guaranteed gold drops off everyboss. vmol difficulty mobs and actual mechanics besides burn burn burn.

Eso is soooooo easy pve besides vma/vmol/vso/vaa everything else in the game can be pugged without a mic on console( have done it before) plz give the 600cp players some fun difficult content with actual rewards

1.3% (trophy data) of the people who own the game on PS4 have COMPLETED either of the SoTH dungeons. Think about that for a second, before asking for uber leet content. I completed Mazza day one and CoS day two after launch, but I understand that my dedication to the game and to my builds is not universal or expected of most of the people who contribute to ESO.

Banana wrote: »

Just harden up and do it naked and by yourself.

Nude run for the win.
Next is to queue for random dungeons nude

Peekachu99 wrote: »

phillyproduct wrote: »

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Ive took a year off this game came back in January hit cap in champ points and all ready found vdungeon easy they clearly weren't made with 600cp players in mind, even cos and rom can be breezed thru.

Gear can be farmed on normal, helms on vet, and extreme is for the challenge- also 3keys if its the daily 4 with hm on final boss. Guaranteed gold drops off everyboss. vmol difficulty mobs and actual mechanics besides burn burn burn.

Eso is soooooo easy pve besides vma/vmol/vso/vaa everything else in the game can be pugged without a mic on console( have done it before) plz give the 600cp players some fun difficult content with actual rewards

1.3% (trophy data) of the people who own the game on PS4 have COMPLETED either of the SoTH dungeons. Think about that for a second, before asking for uber leet content. I completed Mazza day one and CoS day two after launch, but I understand that my dedication to the game and to my builds is not universal or expected of most of the people who contribute to ESO.

My question is how many even brought the dlc?
And ok you right this is a small percent but eso is 7mill strong so 70k players can do difficult content why not put hard content in the game?

What do you do after you breeze threw content and What will u do till morrwind?

VonSwaego wrote: »

We'll call it "elitist " difficulty. Seriously, no.

Why not? Why do people have 2 be elitist just to play a difficult game? Are people who play dark souls elitist?

Im asking 4 something a little more than running my face over my keyboard in difficulty

SOTH Dungeons hard mode is a good challenge

No thanks, I like my dungeons quick and easy with a chance of good loot for everyone.

phillyproduct wrote: »

notimetocare wrote: »

No. If you want a challenge mode? I gues, but more loot? Auto gold? No way.

Why not just try it with white, non-set gear? There, instant challenge with no extra code

Why do that lol? I dont want empty challenge i also dont want auto loot, maybe i wasnt clear i apologies.

I want challenging content with meaningful rewards maybe 1gold item at the end would be better?

I guess 'guaranteed gold item off every boss' means something different lol

phillyproduct wrote: »

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Ive took a year off this game came back in January hit cap in champ points and all ready found vdungeon easy they clearly weren't made with 600cp players in mind, even cos and rom can be breezed thru.

Gear can be farmed on normal, helms on vet, and extreme is for the challenge- also 3keys if its the daily 4 with hm on final boss. Guaranteed gold drops off everyboss. vmol difficulty mobs and actual mechanics besides burn burn burn.

Eso is soooooo easy pve besides vma/vmol/vso/vaa everything else in the game can be pugged without a mic on console( have done it before) plz give the 600cp players some fun difficult content with actual rewards

It would be a good idea to have a tier above Vet difficulty. I can imagine there are a lot of Trials players who are having a hard time finding reasons to log in between Trials nights. Same issue as Raid Logging in other MMOs.

Once you get geared up for that level of content, everything else becomes a total face-roll. I hope Zos implements a 3rd tier for the dungeons, too.

You could just run a random vet dungeon via the group finder. Considering the stories people tell here of the groups they get, you may get the challenge you are looking for.

No CP Vet Dungeons

Edziu wrote: »

notimetocare wrote: »

No. If you want a challenge mode? I gues, but more loot? Auto gold? No way.

Why not just try it with white, non-set gear? There, instant challenge with no extra code

so then grinding for better gear is nonsense because with this gear dung are to easy and with no gear will be challenge...but then we will do only once this challange to show power and end game because it will be unnecessary to farm better gear

And here we see someone realise the problem with gear based power progression. Spend all that time getting the best gear, only to find it trivialises all the fun which can be had without it.

ESO is never going to be a game for the hardcore few, most MMO games are not because they need to keep them accesable for everyone to help gain more players.

I would be fine with a en elite, nightmare or whatever you want it to be called dungeon mode but only if they don't tie anything different gear/achievements/rewards behind it.

Otherwise you're not making more content for the true end game players to enjoy, but just another tier of content progression everyone has to take part in.

srfrogg23 wrote: »

Seadle wrote: »

CP is not equivocal to skill, so why bar it behind cp600?

No, it's not equivalent at all to skill, but it is a set of objective numerical values to balance the difficulty level around.

You're right, though, CPs are accumulated just by playing any content and aren't necessarily indicative of an individual's skill or understanding of game mechanics.

So, since CP are just gained by doing ANYTHING having something that is barred behind being max CP is counterproductive. This would just cause people who are already cp600 and say have no idea how to actually do difficult PvE content just make the dungeons that are already difficult for people who can't DPS hard enough or do simple mechanics, much, much harder.

Imo it's a bad idea and would overlook the vast majority of players who do not have the time to achieve cp600 or the players that are just not cp600. It might give them something to look to, but then what do they have to look forward to? There should just be a no CP option for dungeons, or as stated above - do the dungeons naked and solo.

Everstorm wrote: »

I wish the base content was a lot harder. The questlines and delves. First time I did a public dungeon I thought: this should be the base difficulty of the game.
But with One Tamriel out there should be content for new people, without a few hundred CPs. Though a deeper understanding of the mechanics brings as much power as those CPs.

Yes, it came as an surprise to me coming back. Remember the old veteran zones was far harder.
On the other hand I don't quest to get an challenge.
However for an causal player the jump from questing to the normal dungeons must be an shock at least the harder ones.
That is also why we see so much strange

phillyproduct wrote: »

everything else in the game can be pugged without a mic on console( have done it before) plz give the 600cp players some fun difficult content with actual rewards

HA! right.... what "pugs" are you joining?
Most pug groups can hardly beat the "easy" vet dungeons... forget reading the scroll...

if you and the same few friends keep playing these dungeons... of course they will be easy eventually. But don't lie to people about how easy SotH dungeons on hard mode are in a random pug group. Blatant lie. WGT and ICP vet hard mode are still next to impossible with a pug group and those have been out for quite a while now.