The Inconsistency of Homestead: Nord Edition

Adaption · March 2017

Old Mistveil Manor uses the same building as Grymharth's Woe, but adds an exterior yard and a stable. Compared to other large racial houses, it's rather small despite being the around the same price. I was hoping they'd use the building from Fallowstone Hall in Riften, or the Fighter's Guild Hall in Windhelm.

Here are some imgur albums to better illustrate my case:

What the Nords have: Old Mistveil Manor

What the Altmer have: Matthisen Manor

What the Nords should've had: Fallowstone Hall

Zenimax pls. I'd even pay 10,000 Crowns for a 'Notable' house as long as it's in Eastmarch and using the Fallowstone Hall asset.

cjthibs · March 2017

Absolutely. I opted for the Medium orc home over this one.

It's got just as much usable space with a crapton more character.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · March 2017

Agreed.

Argruna · March 2017

Honestly Fallowstone Hall looks more like it should be in the 3 million gold category, which would be nice to have more variety in that category. Since the first 3 are tied to completing the faction tied to it. Maybe add Fallowstone and another that are tied to Cadwell Silver and Gold?

Adaption · March 2017

Argruna wrote: »

Honestly Fallowstone Hall looks more like it should be in the 3 million gold category, which would be nice to have more variety in that category. Since the first 3 are tied to completing the faction tied to it. Maybe add Fallowstone and another that are tied to Cadwell Silver and Gold?

Mathiisen is still larger than Fallowstone.

Loralai_907 · March 2017

Agreed.

I ended up buying Hundings because it was so much bigger and had the bonus of water, which is pretty important to me personally.

If the option for Mistveil had looked like that and had more outdoor space to work with, I probably would have bought it instead. Even without any water.

Adaption · March 2017

mommadani907 wrote: »

Agreed.

I ended up buying Hundings because it was so much bigger and had the bonus of water, which is pretty important to me personally.

If the option for Mistveil had looked like that and had more outdoor space to work with, I probably would have bought it instead. Even without any water.

ZOS was really inconsistent with how they handled the sizes and pricing of a majority of the houses.

Adaption · March 2017

cjthibs wrote: »

Absolutely. I opted for the Medium orc home over this one.

It's got just as much usable space with a crapton more character.

That's my biggest problem with Homestead. There are houses that happen to be bigger than other racial houses and are sometimes even cheaper.

Come to think of it; Mournoth Keep is around 5,000c furnished and it's still larger than the 7,300c Old Mistveil Manor.

Zinaroth · March 2017

I am even more dissapointed with the craftable Nord furniture.
The developers really seemed to lack creativity when they came up with Nord furnishings in this game.
They are all so simple it hurts and have visibly lower resolution textures than many other race furnishings.
It seems like Nords took a giant pass on this Homestead patch.
So not only does our race suck now, our cultural furnishing and homes do aswell.

cjthibs · March 2017

Adaption wrote: »

cjthibs wrote: »

Absolutely. I opted for the Medium orc home over this one.

It's got just as much usable space with a crapton more character.

That's my biggest problem with Homestead. There are houses that happen to be bigger than other racial houses and are sometimes even cheaper.

Come to think of it; Mournoth Keep is around 5,000c furnished and it's still larger than the 7,300c Old Mistveil Manor.

What I'd really like to see is a Nordic Fort in the snow.

Adaption · March 2017

cjthibs wrote: »

Adaption wrote: »

cjthibs wrote: »

Absolutely. I opted for the Medium orc home over this one.

It's got just as much usable space with a crapton more character.

That's my biggest problem with Homestead. There are houses that happen to be bigger than other racial houses and are sometimes even cheaper.

Come to think of it; Mournoth Keep is around 5,000c furnished and it's still larger than the 7,300c Old Mistveil Manor.

What I'd really like to see is a Nordic Fort in the snow.

That's exactly what I wanted for my main.

MLGProPlayer · March 2017

The only large homes worth their price are:

- Foresaken Fortress
- Mathiisen Manor
- Hunding's Palatial Hall
- Strident Springs Demesne
- Gardner House

The rest are just rehashed medium homes with a jacked up price tag.

- Nord house is a carbon copy of the medium home with a yard
- Dark elf large house is exactly the same as the medium version except with a yard and slightly longer side rooms
- The bosmer and argonian huts are just the medium homes with an additional tiny hut and more yard space
- The khajiit large house should have been their medium house considering how small it is, and the fact that they reused the small house in the medium category

Adaption · March 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

The only large homes worth their price are:

- Foresaken Fortress
- Mathiisen Manor
- Hunding's Palatial Hall
- Strident Springs Demesne

The rest are just rehashed medium homes with a jacked up price tag.

It irks me that ZOS couldn't be bothered to use existing assets to make some of the lesser 'large' homes bigger.

Maybe they forgot?

Molydeus · March 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

The only large homes worth their price are:

- Foresaken Fortress
- Mathiisen Manor
- Hunding's Palatial Hall
- Strident Springs Demesne

The rest are just rehashed medium homes with a jacked up price tag.

- Nord house is a carbon copy of the medium home with a yard
- Dark elf large house is exactly the same as the medium version except with a yard and slightly longer side rooms
- The bosmer and argonian huts are just the medium homes with an additional tiny hut and more yard space
- The khajiit large house should have been their medium house considering how small it is, and the fact that they reused the small house in the medium category

You forgot Gardner House, it has the best interior layout of all the homes in the game. Also, location, location, location. I don't have the crafting stations so Wayrest literally being my doorstep is a huge perk. No wayshrine loading screens for me.

MLGProPlayer · March 2017

Molydeus wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

The only large homes worth their price are:

- Foresaken Fortress
- Mathiisen Manor
- Hunding's Palatial Hall
- Strident Springs Demesne

The rest are just rehashed medium homes with a jacked up price tag.

- Nord house is a carbon copy of the medium home with a yard
- Dark elf large house is exactly the same as the medium version except with a yard and slightly longer side rooms
- The bosmer and argonian huts are just the medium homes with an additional tiny hut and more yard space
- The khajiit large house should have been their medium house considering how small it is, and the fact that they reused the small house in the medium category

You forgot Gardner House, it has the best interior layout of all the homes in the game. Also, location, location, location. I don't have the crafting stations so Wayrest literally being my doorstep is a huge perk. No wayshrine loading screens for me.

Good call. That is another one worth the price tag.

ThePaulrus94 · March 2017

Zinaroth wrote: »

I am even more dissapointed with the craftable Nord furniture.
The developers really seemed to lack creativity when they came up with Nord furnishings in this game.
It seems like Nords took a giant pass on this Homestead patch.
So not only does our race suck now, our cultural furnishing and homes do aswell.

I totally agree with this. These options are fairly minimal too. I was looking through furnishings and there are sooo many Redguard and Dunmer furnishing options.

I wholeheartedly 100% agree with the OP though. I was disappointed when I first saw the Nord houses. What I was looking for was a nice medium sized house for my Nord that wasn't right in the middle of the city and was surrounded by snow, but I understand that they can't cater to everyone the first go around.

The large Nord home would be perfect for me had it been outside of Windhelm and priced more like a medium sized home.

Adaption · March 2017

ThePaulrus94 wrote: »

Zinaroth wrote: »

I am even more dissapointed with the craftable Nord furniture.
The developers really seemed to lack creativity when they came up with Nord furnishings in this game.
It seems like Nords took a giant pass on this Homestead patch.
So not only does our race suck now, our cultural furnishing and homes do aswell.

I totally agree with this. These options are fairly minimal too. I was looking through furnishings and there are sooo many Redguard and Dunmer furnishing options.

I wholeheartedly 100% agree with the OP though. I was disappointed when I first saw the Nord houses. What I was looking for was a nice medium sized house for my Nord that wasn't right in the middle of the city and was surrounded by snow, but I understand that they can't cater to everyone the first go around.

The large Nord home would be perfect for me had it been outside of Windhelm and priced more like a medium sized home.

I personally don't see it entirely as an issue with catering, but an issue with value.

If you ignore all the other houses and look at Old Mistveil Manor by itself, it's okay.

However, I can't get over how small it is in comparison to the other houses. I'm beating a dead horse at this point, but I just want them to give Nords (and other races in a similar position) a better large house.

ThePaulrus94 · March 2017

I certainly wouldn't feel I'm getting my money's worth by buying Old Mistveil Manor with gold or Crowns. If anything, I'd be buying it because it's the best Nord home currently available and the location's not bad. Plus the mountain and stable are pretty cool, but the size is quite lacking. It has a additional yard balcony and stable when compared to Grymharths Woe; but at the added cost of like 2+ million gold.

Tan9oSuccka · March 2017

Agreed. I have huge buyers remorse when comparing to Hundings. Nords got completely jobbed on this "large" home.

Tapio75 · March 2017

I wish they would really design those houses more individually rather than just copy paste from existing.. At least the most expensive houses should be fully exclusiv designs..

Daggerfall overlook for example even copy pasted the nice tower where the wiev is obscurred by too high wall and the "Stair" to the tower as illogical as can be. The tower should have real staircase for example, not door->Floor hatch >.<

Cynnalia · March 2017

I am also disappointed with Old Mistveil Manor. I love the setting...I think the Rift is beautiful with the birch trees in autumn colors and ferns and other greenery all around; however, the outdoor space is small compared to other large homes and the interior is subpar for what I expect a large house to be. Nevermind it's an exact copy of the medium home!

Definitely not a value for its price, whether it is Crowns or gold. Give us a better large home for Nords, ZOS! I love the idea of one in northern Eastmarch.

Tapio75 · March 2017

Cynnalia wrote: »

I am also disappointed with Old Mistveil Manor. I love the setting...I think the Rift is beautiful with the birch trees in autumn colors and ferns and other greenery all around; however, the outdoor space is small compared to other large homes and the interior is subpar for what I expect a large house to be. Nevermind it's an exact copy of the medium home!

Definitely not a value for its price, whether it is Crowns or gold. Give us a better large home for Nords, ZOS! I love the idea of one in northern Eastmarch.

For northern Eastmarch, we also require a new emote /shovelsnow and /Ski ^^

Adaption · March 2017

Cynnalia wrote: »

I am also disappointed with Old Mistveil Manor. I love the setting...I think the Rift is beautiful with the birch trees in autumn colors and ferns and other greenery all around; however, the outdoor space is small compared to other large homes and the interior is subpar for what I expect a large house to be. Nevermind it's an exact copy of the medium home!

Definitely not a value for its price, whether it is Crowns or gold. Give us a better large home for Nords, ZOS! I love the idea of one in northern Eastmarch.

Any Nord manor better than the current one would be much appreciated. I don't care where at this point.

Youarc · March 2017

All I know is, I clicked the Imgur album for what the Nords have, and the title that was given to the Nord album absolutely killed me. Could not stop laughing

It's... been a long night

Osteos · March 2017

The large nord home should have been on the lake near Riften. Image the balcony view with the lake and then Riften in the distance..

Magdalina · March 2017

I don't actually have much interest in housing, all I've done is get the free closet room in an inn, stick Velidreth statue in the middle for lols and never come back, but if there is a house I'd be interested in buying at all, that's Fallowstone Hall. It's gorgeous. I'd also love that in real life

Adaption · March 2017

bingojet123b14_ESO wrote: »

All I know is, I clicked the Imgur album for what the Nords have, and the title that was given to the Nord album absolutely killed me. Could not stop laughing It's... been a long night

I was hoping someone would notice that.

Nord_Raseri · April 2018

I bought old mistvail manor. I love it. just wish it was slightly cheaper and either on lake honrich or in the snow in western eastmarch or something.

jedtb16_ESO · April 2018

another necro?