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✭✭✭imnotanother wrote: »
How would that work? You can't trade crowns, not to mention the cap is probably still 12-24 players.Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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Sordidfairytale✭✭✭✭✭driosketch wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »
How would that work? You can't trade crowns, not to mention the cap is probably still 12-24 players.
Paypal on their websites. Guild leader purchases the crowns.The Vegemite Knight0 -
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✭✭✭Stopnaggin wrote: »Really complaining about prices on anything on these forums is pretty sad. What makes it worse are the crusaders who think they have the right to insult others on how they spend their money. I earned my money, my bills are paid and I will spend my money how I see fit.
Wife got a $2000 engagement ring, kids all have I phones, electric is still on. If I want to spend a couple hundred dollars on a hobby it's my business. Don't like the prices, that's fine, can't afford it, oh well. Making some moral stand, good for you. Preaching to others about wasting money, bs. Go preach to someone who has a real problem other than a video game hobby. Stand outside the bar or liquor store and preach to them. Go to a bad neighborhood with drug dealers and preach to the addicts.
It's a game, no matter what someone else buys with rlm, it does not affect who you play. Insulting those who do spend that money isn't going to help. It shows a lack of intelligence and understanding that not eveyone shares your views. You want to debate than carry on, you want to insult, then others will not take you seriously.
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✭Stopnaggin wrote: »Wife got a $2000 engagement ring, kids all have I phones, electric is still on. If I want to spend a couple hundred dollars on a hobby it's my business. Don't like the prices, that's fine, can't afford it, oh well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBxJNYkUAT4
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✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Stopnaggin wrote: »Really complaining about prices on anything on these forums is pretty sad. What makes it worse are the crusaders who think they have the right to insult others on how they spend their money. I earned my money, my bills are paid and I will spend my money how I see fit.
Wife got a $2000 engagement ring, kids all have I phones, electric is still on. If I want to spend a couple hundred dollars on a hobby it's my business. Don't like the prices, that's fine, can't afford it, oh well. Making some moral stand, good for you. Preaching to others about wasting money, bs. Go preach to someone who has a real problem other than a video game hobby. Stand outside the bar or liquor store and preach to them. Go to a bad neighborhood with drug dealers and preach to the addicts.
It's a game, no matter what someone else buys with rlm, it does not affect who you play. Insulting those who do spend that money isn't going to help. It shows a lack of intelligence and understanding that not eveyone shares your views. You want to debate than carry on, you want to insult, then others will not take you seriously.
Good, by all means do what you want its your money, just be warned about getting sucked in to deep Bioware curse is upon you
I never stated I was buying it, for me it doesn't have enough solid ground. I was just stating that's is each players right to purchase what they want with their money. For me as of yet, I don't see the value for what I want. Others may very well feel differently, and that's fine it's their money. Why does everyone assume that just because people defend a person's rights, that we are in fact going to do what they are?Edited by Stopnaggin on March 9, 2017 5:02PM9 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Stopnaggin wrote: »Really complaining about prices on anything on these forums is pretty sad. What makes it worse are the crusaders who think they have the right to insult others on how they spend their money. I earned my money, my bills are paid and I will spend my money how I see fit.
Wife got a $2000 engagement ring, kids all have I phones, electric is still on. If I want to spend a couple hundred dollars on a hobby it's my business. Don't like the prices, that's fine, can't afford it, oh well. Making some moral stand, good for you. Preaching to others about wasting money, bs. Go preach to someone who has a real problem other than a video game hobby. Stand outside the bar or liquor store and preach to them. Go to a bad neighborhood with drug dealers and preach to the addicts.
It's a game, no matter what someone else buys with rlm, it does not affect who you play. Insulting those who do spend that money isn't going to help. It shows a lack of intelligence and understanding that not eveyone shares your views. You want to debate than carry on, you want to insult, then others will not take you seriously.
@Stopnaggin
I think you're taking it waaaay out of context.
Follow that DLC and chapters never go over the industry standards of $60 or $130 for a physical collection of sorts however digital only, cosmetic items exceed both.
Now also consider that one outfit, maybe 5 potions or exp Scrolls (optional) exceed the usage ratio of dlc or chapter prices when considering the real money cost.
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✭✭✭Sordidfairytale wrote: »driosketch wrote: »imnotanother wrote: »
How would that work? You can't trade crowns, not to mention the cap is probably still 12-24 players.
Paypal on their websites. Guild leader purchases the crowns.
Donating gold is one thing. Not sure about giving someone real money for something you'd have no real guarantee of access to. (Between keeping guild membership, the home being account tied rather than owned by the guild, and the player cap.) Fine if you're a guild of close friends irl, but otherwise I'd be wary of doing that.Edited by driosketch on March 9, 2017 5:11PMMain: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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AndyTGD✭✭✭lol, that price is completely insane. But ZOS is a business and, naturally enough, will try to cater for the whales out there. Personally, I don't understand the desire to own a virtual mansion which costs around $100 of real, actual cash. I guess it would make a fantastic guild hall if loads of folks chipped in, but for one person to pay that... I just don't get it. Even for the guild hall, it can only hold 24 (?) people at one time, which seems a little on the small side for such an expensive property, given that you might want to hold a big get-together in it.4 -
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✭LadyLavina wrote: »Stopnaggin wrote: »Wife got a $2000 engagement ring, kids all have I phones, electric is still on. If I want to spend a couple hundred dollars on a hobby it's my business. Don't like the prices, that's fine, can't afford it, oh well.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBxJNYkUAT4
Good for you, my point still stand that if I can afford something that's my business. Great for bringing something constructive to the conversation though. As if some petty video from some random person on the Internet make a huge difference in my life. Congrats on making my point.
If none of that matters then why does me spending money on a game matter?Edited by Stopnaggin on March 9, 2017 5:23PM9 -
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✭✭✭my view on the difference between say the prices of DLC or game editions or expansions vs the prices of housing andf cosmetics is...
the things that are either required to play or add value in concrete terms to the play - game, dlc, expansion etc - they should have a reasonable market based pricing scheme. They seem to have that now.
the things which are just cosmetic, just outside the normal game character development cycle and are just "fluff" content - these can have whatever price scheme that is marketable.
The former types are things one "needs" or "benefits from" in playing thru the development cylce and main game content. the latter is just scratching your own particular itch.
You can play the game without housing or without any crown mansions without any drawbacks at all.
if you dont have wrothgar, well there are some things you will miss out on that matter significantly in some areas of the game.
The JFF (just for fun) stuff doesn't compare to the STM (stuff that matters) in any real way that makes comparisons of pricing relevant between them.
The only relevant measure is how much enjoyment the player who purchases gets out of it and that is an entirely subjective thing.
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Manpoints✭✭✭✭Nelson_Rebel wrote: »Will this cavern have a higher furnishings limit
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✭✭✭✭✭BUT GUYS, ITS A VERY IMPORTANT MICROTRANSACTION, sure you could buy the entire game for less, sure you could buy 2 other AAA titles for the same money, BUT WHY WOULD YOU? When you could own a digital house, in an mmo? I mean there's that big fight in america over their minimum wage being $8 or something, so someone would only have to work 15 hours to get a furnished house...wait no...I didn't take into account taxes...oh well, STILL A BARGAIN, just think about all the effort that some guy put in over the weekend to clear out the mantikora put in some water and place it on the crown store!
Why does it matter so much to you that you need to post this 3x? What people do with their money they earned is none of your buisness.
You have absolutely no idea what goes into game level development if you think "some guy" made this over the weekend.
I've been dabbling with Ark mods with their new incentive program for the modders, yeah, that room, a couple of days maybe, not even late ones. The tools and textures already exist, yeah, a couple of days. What do you think creating something like that is like? The Matrix?
But maybe you could give us all a glimpse at your insight, how much time do you think needs to have been spent on content for it to warrant a $100 price tag? Coz AAA games go for alot less than that.
I've built levels for games that had the option for player created content, including custom textures and I know others that have done the same.
Its not levels bro, its a room, a single room, be it large, if you spent 2 weeks or even a month on a room a game the size of ESO would've taken a decade to complete. Whats your deal anyways? Jumping into threads looking to nit pick some guys post, virtue signal on behalf of whoever he has angst against, in this case the developers...yeah bro, those poor developers are definitely in need of you waving their flag in posts regarding the ridiculous pricing structure around micro-transactions in this game.
Enlighten us, how much is that room worth in your development hours/dollars?
I don't have to justify anything to you, but the cave is not just room. It has lots and lots of non regular shapes (the rock work). It's not something that can just be pasted together from a collection of rocks.
What's YOUR deal. It doesnt impact you whatsoever if people buy this. Let people decide for themselves if they want to spend THEIR money on it. You're not going to change anyone's mind and ZOS isnt going to change it because they are making money hand over fist. The number of Wild Hunt and Storm mounts in the game right now tells you they are making tons of money so a lot of people are just fine with these things.
Posts like this, telling others what to do with the money they worked for, make me want to buy it just to spite you. Why? Because I can. I'm thinking about buying it anyway.
If you don't like the pricing, speak with your wallet and don't buy it. If you can't deal with microtransactions in games, find a different game. Good luck with that because pretty much every game now has them.Edited by Katahdin on March 9, 2017 5:55PMBeta tester November 20136 -
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✭I am more shocked with the people thinking that this price is reasonable, than with the price itself.
What's wrong with you people... with your acceptance on this the prices will be higher and higher. Is there even any limit for you?
highest sale on first superman comic is like over 2 mil real dollars.
highest sale on first batman is over 1 mil.
Deciding something is "wrong with you" for a group of folks willing to pay ~100 USD maybe more maybe less depending on sales, sub crowns etc for a piece of content they believe they will get sufficient playtime and enjoyment out of is... well...
lets say it raises more questions about "is something wrong with you" than those who buy.
And BTW you just ticked my meter a bit close to the "buy" than it was.
but still gonna wait a bit before committing.
But next crowns sale... definitely a possibility and one a slight bit closer now than before.
I am not saying I will or won't buy, as I did buy a furnished manor with crowns. Your analogy to comic books (physical items) is quite a bit different.
The comic book you own forever and can be considered a real investment. This house is just an item added to the license that you are renting from zos, which can be pulled from you at any time for any reason. (Or no reason at all)
Again not saying it is good or bad, I will probably wait for the island and purchase it. Just that there is a huge difference in purchasing something like this and a comic book, especially considering in eso you can't sell your account or items like this house later on for more money. (Like in some games)
At the end, it is your money and you should do with it as you choose. I know I do and will continue to do so. I honestly don't understand the people who try to tell other people how they should spend their money, when they never asked for said advice.Edited by alexkdd99 on March 9, 2017 5:26PM1 -
Soella✭✭✭✭Pricing would matter if the cave had higher limits on furnishing/number of players than manors. It definitely would be pay to win. As of now - IMHO, anyone is entitled for luxury toys if they can afford it. I personally more concern about lack of available mounts for achievements.1 -
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✭Nelson_Rebel wrote: »Will this cavern have a higher furnishings limit
nope
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13000 crown for a *** exclusive house
ZOS logic
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✭✭A lot of people love citing that they have a lot of money or jobs that pay for it as some way to justify the cost of housing lately. That type of justification is completely irrelevant to the issue; many people work and pay all sorts of bills because well it's life.
The issue is at-least for me, comes to why it's so expensive; someone put it correctly by stating if your in-game micro-transactions cost more than your base game or the game with all DLC included... well that makes a huge statement on what you as the developer value the game to be.
Housing isn't needed in ESO as many have stated and with that said I will definitely not buy this place as I got other things I'm willing to spend it on such as the new Mass effect or my next college book which near rivals the cost of this in-game house.不動の Steadfast - Unwavering
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✭I see a lot of overpriced fluff, stupid Zo$ and I am going to quit posts.
I haven't bought a single house yet just because of the lack of storage. If they add that feature I will buy one.
Can someone at least tell me what they think reasonable pricing is for stuff like this?Conan, what is good in life?
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✭✭✭I am more shocked with the people thinking that this price is reasonable, than with the price itself.
What's wrong with you people... with your acceptance on this the prices will be higher and higher. Is there even any limit for you?
highest sale on first superman comic is like over 2 mil real dollars.
highest sale on first batman is over 1 mil.
Deciding something is "wrong with you" for a group of folks willing to pay ~100 USD maybe more maybe less depending on sales, sub crowns etc for a piece of content they believe they will get sufficient playtime and enjoyment out of is... well...
lets say it raises more questions about "is something wrong with you" than those who buy.
And BTW you just ticked my meter a bit close to the "buy" than it was.
but still gonna wait a bit before committing.
But next crowns sale... definitely a possibility and one a slight bit closer now than before.
I am not saying I will or won't buy, as I did buy a furnished manor with crowns. Your analogy to comic books (physical items) is quite a bit different.
The comic book you own forever and can be considered a real investment. This house is just an item added to the license that you are renting from zos, which can be pulled from you at any time for any reason. (Or no reason at all)
Again not saying it is good or bad, I will probably wait for the island and purchase it. Just that there is a huge difference in purchasing something like this and a comic book, especially considering in eso you can't sell your account or items like this house later on for more money. (Like in some games)
At the end, it is your money and you should do with it as you choose. I know I do and will continue to do so. I honestly don't understand the people who try to tell other people how they should spend their money, when they never asked for said advice.
So if i had listed ultra-rich vacation getaways prices like 2 weeks on an island or a quarter mil to orbit the moon that would make the analogy better?
nah - permanence vs transitory and resale value or not are just factors into the equation when it comes to price and value subjective decision making.
Simple point is, "whats wrong with you people?" when it comes to how they spend their own money on entertainment is way off base and whether that "spending" is on transitory things "skydiving excursion" or permanent things "black velvet bruce lee" does not make "whats wrong with you people" any better or any worse.
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✭NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Stopnaggin wrote: »Really complaining about prices on anything on these forums is pretty sad. What makes it worse are the crusaders who think they have the right to insult others on how they spend their money. I earned my money, my bills are paid and I will spend my money how I see fit.
Wife got a $2000 engagement ring, kids all have I phones, electric is still on. If I want to spend a couple hundred dollars on a hobby it's my business. Don't like the prices, that's fine, can't afford it, oh well. Making some moral stand, good for you. Preaching to others about wasting money, bs. Go preach to someone who has a real problem other than a video game hobby. Stand outside the bar or liquor store and preach to them. Go to a bad neighborhood with drug dealers and preach to the addicts.
It's a game, no matter what someone else buys with rlm, it does not affect who you play. Insulting those who do spend that money isn't going to help. It shows a lack of intelligence and understanding that not eveyone shares your views. You want to debate than carry on, you want to insult, then others will not take you seriously.
@Stopnaggin
I think you're taking it waaaay out of context.
Follow that DLC and chapters never go over the industry standards of $60 or $130 for a physical collection of sorts however digital only, cosmetic items exceed both.
Now also consider that one outfit, maybe 5 potions or exp Scrolls (optional) exceed the usage ratio of dlc or chapter prices when considering the real money cost.
Correct, but it's still completely optional. But that isn't for me to decide a value for someone else. We as players haven't bought anything, we mearly rent for a time. The base game may well be lower than the actual usage of luxery items, cost wise. I know dollar wise I've spent more in riding lessons across 8 characters then what I spent on the base game. Not out of necessity, but out of preference.
Wasn't trying to blow thing out of proportion, just stating that value is completely subjective. Would I personally buy a $2000 dollar diamond for me, no but my wife enjoys it. To me it does nothing but to her it means something so it is what it it. I can fall back to my drag racing hobby, in comparison to gaming, it's super expensive, but it's something I get enjoyment from. Same with the game. Some things have a value to me some don't, I will buy those things I will enjoy and not bother with those I wouldn't. After all its a game that I enjoy so spending some cash on it every now and again doesn't bother me. I know not eveyone feels the same, and I'm not blind to the shift in strategy with money and the crown store.
My biggest complaint is those who try to tell me what a bad thing I'm doing, because they have a different opinion. I've even heard the argument that those of us who buy these things are going to be the end of th game, lol. But cheers buddy for being civil. And I mean that. It's getting more rare by the day.5 -
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✭I am more shocked with the people thinking that this price is reasonable, than with the price itself.
What's wrong with you people... with your acceptance on this the prices will be higher and higher. Is there even any limit for you?
highest sale on first superman comic is like over 2 mil real dollars.
highest sale on first batman is over 1 mil.
Deciding something is "wrong with you" for a group of folks willing to pay ~100 USD maybe more maybe less depending on sales, sub crowns etc for a piece of content they believe they will get sufficient playtime and enjoyment out of is... well...
lets say it raises more questions about "is something wrong with you" than those who buy.
And BTW you just ticked my meter a bit close to the "buy" than it was.
but still gonna wait a bit before committing.
But next crowns sale... definitely a possibility and one a slight bit closer now than before.
I am not saying I will or won't buy, as I did buy a furnished manor with crowns. Your analogy to comic books (physical items) is quite a bit different.
The comic book you own forever and can be considered a real investment. This house is just an item added to the license that you are renting from zos, which can be pulled from you at any time for any reason. (Or no reason at all)
Again not saying it is good or bad, I will probably wait for the island and purchase it. Just that there is a huge difference in purchasing something like this and a comic book, especially considering in eso you can't sell your account or items like this house later on for more money. (Like in some games)
At the end, it is your money and you should do with it as you choose. I know I do and will continue to do so. I honestly don't understand the people who try to tell other people how they should spend their money, when they never asked for said advice.
Yeah the comic is physical, and we only rent these pixels. I also know people that spend more than that in one night at the bar or on a steak dinner. Those things don't come back. But they are fun while they last.
You are correct though, there is no right or wrong here. Value is subjective and that's why people argue for and against pricing.3 -
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✭✭✭Pricing would matter if the cave had higher limits on furnishing/number of players than manors. It definitely would be pay to win. As of now - IMHO, anyone is entitled for luxury toys if they can afford it. I personally more concern about lack of available mounts for achievements.
thing is, the fact is there is little difference in price between earthsea and the manor. IIRC ebonheart costs 12k crowns unfurnished and 15k crowns furnished which is what 100-1300 crowns less.
these are not "super-manors" anything like the differences between medium and large houses where you see a significant difference in prices (gold esp) for moderate increase in numbers.
These are not "super-mansions" deserving noticably higher numbers/limits - just more exotic or less "copy and paste" flavors of manors.
Course, i would also tend to think based on my experience, if i buy this one by the time i am hitting on the 700 furnishing limit, i will have gotten a ton of use out of it in game play.
If you are focusing on numbers/limits - multiple medium/small houses for gold is the way to go. Three medium houses gives you 1200 furnishings and a dozen visitors each for under a mil - just in separate "areas".Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
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✭✭This house is completely over-priced. As were many of the other houses. The pricing is so far removed from reality, that it's not even worth arguing. Now, anyone who bought this house I say well done and congrats. I would not judge somebody in the slightest for spending 100 bucks on this. There are plenty of other outlets that I squander money on so each to their own. Also, this game is built on a business model that relies on people who are willing to spend large sums of money on cosmetic items. It is a well established MMO business model so I salute all you people who buy this house and contribute to financing this game.
BUT... please stop taking it as a personal attack when people say that $100 dollars is a ridiculous amount of money to spend on a functionless, cosmetic, digital product that represents nowhere near the value of a DLC. $100 dollars is a crazy price for this and this is actually one of these occasions where its not really subjective.... c'mon, really, $100 dollars... and it does nothing!! But please understand, my comments on the absurdity of the price are aimed at ZOS and not people who bought the house.All my housing builds are available on YouTube
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✭✭✭Stopnaggin wrote: »I am more shocked with the people thinking that this price is reasonable, than with the price itself.
What's wrong with you people... with your acceptance on this the prices will be higher and higher. Is there even any limit for you?
highest sale on first superman comic is like over 2 mil real dollars.
highest sale on first batman is over 1 mil.
Deciding something is "wrong with you" for a group of folks willing to pay ~100 USD maybe more maybe less depending on sales, sub crowns etc for a piece of content they believe they will get sufficient playtime and enjoyment out of is... well...
lets say it raises more questions about "is something wrong with you" than those who buy.
And BTW you just ticked my meter a bit close to the "buy" than it was.
but still gonna wait a bit before committing.
But next crowns sale... definitely a possibility and one a slight bit closer now than before.
I am not saying I will or won't buy, as I did buy a furnished manor with crowns. Your analogy to comic books (physical items) is quite a bit different.
The comic book you own forever and can be considered a real investment. This house is just an item added to the license that you are renting from zos, which can be pulled from you at any time for any reason. (Or no reason at all)
Again not saying it is good or bad, I will probably wait for the island and purchase it. Just that there is a huge difference in purchasing something like this and a comic book, especially considering in eso you can't sell your account or items like this house later on for more money. (Like in some games)
At the end, it is your money and you should do with it as you choose. I know I do and will continue to do so. I honestly don't understand the people who try to tell other people how they should spend their money, when they never asked for said advice.
Yeah the comic is physical, and we only rent these pixels. I also know people that spend more than that in one night at the bar or on a steak dinner. Those things don't come back. But they are fun while they last.
You are correct though, there is no right or wrong here. Value is subjective and that's why people argue for and against pricing.
Well actually that cheesecake from supper might well stay with you longer than you like.
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✭✭✭✭✭Stopnaggin wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Stopnaggin wrote: »Really complaining about prices on anything on these forums is pretty sad. What makes it worse are the crusaders who think they have the right to insult others on how they spend their money. I earned my money, my bills are paid and I will spend my money how I see fit.
Wife got a $2000 engagement ring, kids all have I phones, electric is still on. If I want to spend a couple hundred dollars on a hobby it's my business. Don't like the prices, that's fine, can't afford it, oh well. Making some moral stand, good for you. Preaching to others about wasting money, bs. Go preach to someone who has a real problem other than a video game hobby. Stand outside the bar or liquor store and preach to them. Go to a bad neighborhood with drug dealers and preach to the addicts.
It's a game, no matter what someone else buys with rlm, it does not affect who you play. Insulting those who do spend that money isn't going to help. It shows a lack of intelligence and understanding that not eveyone shares your views. You want to debate than carry on, you want to insult, then others will not take you seriously.
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I think you're taking it waaaay out of context.
Follow that DLC and chapters never go over the industry standards of $60 or $130 for a physical collection of sorts however digital only, cosmetic items exceed both.
Now also consider that one outfit, maybe 5 potions or exp Scrolls (optional) exceed the usage ratio of dlc or chapter prices when considering the real money cost.
Correct, but it's still completely optional. But that isn't for me to decide a value for someone else. We as players haven't bought anything, we mearly rent for a time. The base game may well be lower than the actual usage of luxery items, cost wise. I know dollar wise I've spent more in riding lessons across 8 characters then what I spent on the base game. Not out of necessity, but out of preference.
Wasn't trying to blow thing out of proportion, just stating that value is completely subjective. Would I personally buy a $2000 dollar diamond for me, no but my wife enjoys it. To me it does nothing but to her it means something so it is what it it. I can fall back to my drag racing hobby, in comparison to gaming, it's super expensive, but it's something I get enjoyment from. Same with the game. Some things have a value to me some don't, I will buy those things I will enjoy and not bother with those I wouldn't. After all its a game that I enjoy so spending some cash on it every now and again doesn't bother me. I know not eveyone feels the same, and I'm not blind to the shift in strategy with money and the crown store.
My biggest complaint is those who try to tell me what a bad thing I'm doing, because they have a different opinion. I've even heard the argument that those of us who buy these things are going to be the end of th game, lol. But cheers buddy for being civil. And I mean that. It's getting more rare by the day.
@Stopnaggin
BAM! Your other comments are valid as well but I have to pull out the fact that NOTHING we spend money on here is owned, it's merely rented or paying for a limited and or temporary license-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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