To Those of You That Have More Than One House and Are In a Guild

Nestor · February 2017

I know I have the ability to allow Guild mates access to a house. And, we can travel to a player's main house from the roster. But, I extended the visitation privileges to all the houses I bought so I am wondering if any of my guild mates can walk up to and enter any of my houses or just my main house. Has anyone tested this? I tried to test in my guild last night but got called away for real world stuff so never found out. Plus everyone was focused on their own housing activity.

Also, I have not poked around a lot in the F5 Menus, but how do you set a house to be your main house?

JasonSilverSpring · February 2017

Nestor wrote: »

I know I have the ability to allow Guild mates access to a house. And, we can travel to a player's main house from the roster. But, I extended the visitation privileges to all the houses I bought so I am wondering if any of my guild mates can walk up to and enter any of my houses or just my main house. Has anyone tested this? I tried to test in my guild last night but got called away for real world stuff so never found out. Plus everyone was focused on their own housing activity.

Also, I have not poked around a lot in the F5 Menus, but how do you set a house to be your main house?

I am pretty sure they can only visit your primary house. I am not where I can check but I would suspect that under Collections is where you would set a house as primary.

DeadlyRecluse · February 2017

I believe they can only visit your other houses if you are present in them.

NewBlacksmurf · February 2017

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

I believe they can only visit your other houses if you are present in them.

Yep this is why ppl are upset about the limits

Epona222 · February 2017

People can visit your primary at any time by right clicking your name and using "Visit Primary Residence"
If you have permissions granted in homes other than your primary, they can visit only while you are in that house by using "Travel to Player".

That's it - I wish that either the player limit in a home were higher, or we could designate overspill housing iykwim.

Nestor · February 2017

We should be able to allow Guildmates, or whoever, access to our houses at any time, not just when we are there.

Well, I will make sure my nicest house is set to be my Primary.

Epona222 · February 2017

Nestor wrote: »

We should be able to allow Guildmates, or whoever, access to our houses at any time, not just when we are there.

Well, I will make sure my nicest house is set to be my Primary.

Whoever you give permissions to can visit your primary when you are offline, I just wish there were more options available for permissions to different houses.

There are situations where this may be relevant - for example I have my guild hall set as primary, if I wanted to hire a decorator (not that I have any leftover cash to do so mind you!) to come and spruce up a secondary house, they would only be able to access that non-primary house when I am in there.

kargen27 · February 2017

Was going to start a new thread but found this one.

Right now I have five houses. Was just going to have the one but to take some of the tedium out of certain parts of the game I gave all my characters some personality and a few quirks. I have one character that will never lie on the quests no matter the results.

I also have a Khajiit that will only wear Khajiit armor and use Khajiit weapons. He is a bit of a racist I suppose but nothing else is good enough. He is the cause of my owning so many houses. Why would he live in a house other than one designed by and for a Khajiit? So I got him his own house.

Then I thought my vampire probably isn't going to want to share a house and he got his own. It went on from there. Other characters will get houses later.

I would like for my friends and guild mates to be able to see all these houses at any time. It would be really nice if when you click on the travel to primary residence button a drop menu would appear allowing them to instead select which house they wanted to travel to.

Funny thing is I thought I would hate housing and was sure it would be a complete waste of time. Now I am having fun with it and work on my house instead of fishing when waiting for a group to get organized.

idk · February 2017

Have not tested it, but to the point you provided visitor access to the guild.

The default for general access is visitor and this is anyone in any of your guilds, friends list or in a group with you unless specifically on the block list. General access can be set to not permit anyone into your home unless in a guild permitted specific access or their name added to the list for access.

tyrus182 · March 2017

For some Players the whole entire purpose of buying homes was so they could share them with guild mate for role playing purposes. And to only be able to designate one house as the one they can travel to at one time seems very limiting considering the cost we have put into these homes. To be in a role playing guild and not have the guild mates be able to enter the homes other than just 1 seems a waste of the gold and crowns spent. Very frustrated right now.

NewBlacksmurf · March 2017

tyrus182 wrote: »

For some Players the whole entire purpose of buying homes was so they could share them with guild mate for role playing purposes. And to only be able to designate one house as the one they can travel to at one time seems very limiting considering the cost we have put into these homes. To be in a role playing guild and not have the guild mates be able to enter the homes other than just 1 seems a waste of the gold and crowns spent. Very frustrated right now.

@tyrus182

I don't believe the accessibility of homes align under player intentions but the lack of helpful UI info in this game has continued over to housing.

It continues to feel like the company is intentionally doing things to cause people to exhaust tons of ingame resources and real money for what players often describe as value lacking or less than ideal management offerings.

Nestor · March 2017

Bottom Line, they are our houses, we should be able to allow anyone access to any house we have by granting them the permission to do so. Whether that be an individual or a guild is up to us. Whether we are online or not, whether we are in the house or not.

Uriel_Nocturne · March 2017

Nestor wrote: »

Bottom Line, they are our houses, we should be able to allow anyone access to any house we have by granting them the permission to do so. Whether that be an individual or a guild is up to us. Whether we are online or not, whether we are in the house or not.

The way I read it in the Patch Notes:

If you give someone permission to visit your House(s); when you are online and in-game, they can visit any of your Houses that they have been given permission to visit. When you are offline or otherwise not "in-game", then players you have given visitor permission to, can only visit your Primary residence.

I may very well be wrong, but when I read the patch notes on the subject, that's what my brain made of it.

SolarCat02 · March 2017

In my experience, they can only visit your non-primary house(s) if you are in the house? Although I have not tested what happens if you leave before they do.

Nestor · March 2017

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

Bottom Line, they are our houses, we should be able to allow anyone access to any house we have by granting them the permission to do so. Whether that be an individual or a guild is up to us. Whether we are online or not, whether we are in the house or not.

The way I read it in the Patch Notes:

If you give someone permission to visit your House(s); when you are online and in-game, they can visit any of your Houses that they have been given permission to visit. When you are offline or otherwise not "in-game", then players you have given visitor permission to, can only visit your Primary residence.

I may very well be wrong, but when I read the patch notes on the subject, that's what my brain made of it.

That may be so, but that means I need to be on line 24/7 for my guild hall to function unless I designate it as my primary residence which does not make sense in the scheme of things, as who lives in a Guild Hall?

What if I set myself to be Offline when I am online and playing?

Permissions need to be divorced from activity status in the game.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Can we get the Devs to look at this please.

Elsonso · March 2017

Nestor wrote: »

That may be so, but that means I need to be on line 24/7 for my guild hall to function unless I designate it as my primary residence which does not make sense in the scheme of things, as who lives in a Guild Hall?

You mean, you are not in the game 24/7?

Sordidfairytale · March 2017

SolarCat02 wrote: »

In my experience, they can only visit your non-primary house(s) if you are in the house? Although I have not tested what happens if you leave before they do.

Nothing happens to the player in your house, they can stay as long as they like, until they log off, then they will re-enter the world at their last open world location*. And if they leave through the door, they will get a "Preview" interaction if they try to re-enter.

Additionally if you are in your secondary house, and one of your visitors walks up to the outside, (or attempts to access from the map) they will only see the "Preview" interaction. They must right click on your name and "travel to player".

*Interesting note, if you log off in another players home that you also own, you will not re-enter the game in an open world, instead you will enter the game in your home at the same location you exited the other players home.

Sordidfairytale · March 2017

Nestor wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

Bottom Line, they are our houses, we should be able to allow anyone access to any house we have by granting them the permission to do so. Whether that be an individual or a guild is up to us. Whether we are online or not, whether we are in the house or not.

The way I read it in the Patch Notes:

If you give someone permission to visit your House(s); when you are online and in-game, they can visit any of your Houses that they have been given permission to visit. When you are offline or otherwise not "in-game", then players you have given visitor permission to, can only visit your Primary residence.

I may very well be wrong, but when I read the patch notes on the subject, that's what my brain made of it.

That may be so, but that means I need to be on line 24/7 for my guild hall to function unless I designate it as my primary residence which does not make sense in the scheme of things, as who lives in a Guild Hall?

...

Ahem

Uriel_Nocturne · March 2017

Nestor wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

Bottom Line, they are our houses, we should be able to allow anyone access to any house we have by granting them the permission to do so. Whether that be an individual or a guild is up to us. Whether we are online or not, whether we are in the house or not.

The way I read it in the Patch Notes:

If you give someone permission to visit your House(s); when you are online and in-game, they can visit any of your Houses that they have been given permission to visit. When you are offline or otherwise not "in-game", then players you have given visitor permission to, can only visit your Primary residence.

I may very well be wrong, but when I read the patch notes on the subject, that's what my brain made of it.

That may be so, but that means I need to be on line 24/7 for my guild hall to function unless I designate it as my primary residence which does not make sense in the scheme of things, as who lives in a Guild Hall?

What if I set myself to be Offline when I am online and playing?

Permissions need to be divorced from activity status in the game.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Can we get the Devs to look at this please.

As far as I understand what I read, and without any further clarification from ZOS; yes, I believe that this is how it currently works.

For which, I agree with you. It's absurd and poorly thought out if that is indeed the case.

There definitely needs to be better clarification for this.

Argruna · March 2017

If you set your residence to primary and add the guild to the registered visitors list, they can visit it at any time regardless on if you are online or not. All they have to do is find your tag and hit visit primary residence.

As for the other houses, they cannot visit those unless you are online, in the house and travel to you. All in all it's an interesting system where you can have a guild hall that everyone can use, but then set permissions for a side house and use that as a guild officer's club and arrange things, etc.

Nestor · March 2017

Argruna wrote: »

but then set permissions for a side house and use that as a guild officer's club and arrange things, etc.

Only if your on line and in the house. That is what needs to change.

baratron · March 2017

Really, they need to bring in official Guildhalls. But in the meantime, I agree, we should AT LEAST be able to designate a primary and secondary residence for our friends and/or Guildies to visit without us also needing to be present.