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STEVIL · March 2017

Tyrion87 wrote: »

I am more shocked with the people thinking that this price is reasonable, than with the price itself.

What's wrong with you people... with your acceptance on this the prices will be higher and higher. Is there even any limit for you?

highest sale on first superman comic is like over 2 mil real dollars.

highest sale on first batman is over 1 mil.

Deciding something is "wrong with you" for a group of folks willing to pay ~100 USD maybe more maybe less depending on sales, sub crowns etc for a piece of content they believe they will get sufficient playtime and enjoyment out of is... well...

lets say it raises more questions about "is something wrong with you" than those who buy.

And BTW you just ticked my meter a bit close to the "buy" than it was.

but still gonna wait a bit before committing.

But next crowns sale... definitely a possibility and one a slight bit closer now than before.

flguy147ub17_ESO · March 2017

So house is worth that much more than any of the DLCs and more than the entire Morrowind expansion. Yes i know people have crowns saved up but it still costs 15 bucks a month to do that. Even on sale, this house cost more than the entire Morrowind expansion. I have zero problem paying for the Morrowind expansion even as a ESO plus subscriber, so i am not one of those cheap people. But this is a ridiculous price in my mind. How can 1 house cost more than Morrowind?

Tyrion87 · March 2017

imnotanother wrote: »

Tyrion87 wrote: »

I am more shocked with the people thinking that this price is reasonable, than with the price itself.

What's wrong with you people... with your acceptance on this the prices will be higher and higher. Is there even any limit for you?

Everyone has different perspectives. EX: You just resubbed your ESO+ for 6 months and now have 9,000 crowns. Maybe buying a crown pack for $40 doesn't seem so steep.

EX 2: Last crown sale you bought (2)Large Packs for $50 total - giving you 11K crowns + resubbed for 6 months = 20K crowns.

Different perspectives.

It's not about perspectives. If you change crowns for RL money, the price for such useless digital stuff is far from being reasonable. No matter where you live and how much you earn. Thinking this item is NOT overpriced is nothing but absurd.

And thinking you get crowns from subbing for free is a mistake. You do pay for these crowns. If they were not included, the price for ESO+ would be lower.

Kodrac · March 2017

Tyrion87 wrote: »

imnotanother wrote: »

Tyrion87 wrote: »

I am more shocked with the people thinking that this price is reasonable, than with the price itself.

What's wrong with you people... with your acceptance on this the prices will be higher and higher. Is there even any limit for you?

Everyone has different perspectives. EX: You just resubbed your ESO+ for 6 months and now have 9,000 crowns. Maybe buying a crown pack for $40 doesn't seem so steep.

EX 2: Last crown sale you bought (2)Large Packs for $50 total - giving you 11K crowns + resubbed for 6 months = 20K crowns.

Different perspectives.

It's not about perspectives. If you change crowns for RL money, the price for such useless digital stuff is far from being reasonable. No matter where you live and how much you earn. Thinking this item is NOT overpriced is nothing but absurd.

And thinking you get crowns from subbing for free is a mistake. You do pay for these crowns. If they were not included, the price for ESO+ would be lower.

Stopnaggin · March 2017

Tyrion87 wrote: »

I am more shocked with the people thinking that this price is reasonable, than with the price itself.

What's wrong with you people... with your acceptance on this the prices will be higher and higher. Is there even any limit for you?

Why does it matter? Why do you care how people spend there money? Do you habg out in open air drug markets spouting the same thing? At least that would be a better cause. There isn't anything wrong with people that buy it with rlm, it's a hobby, and still a cheap hobby.

Yeah yeah we have all heard how the prices will continue to climb, but have they? If they have its not very much. An example I have used before, in game motifs (purple) were 5k as far back as I can remember, they release a dro mathra motif at 6k, but it came with mimic stones, so the price is actually the same. The dromathra mount was what 4k, the elk not just a reskin, slightly higher.

To give you an idea, another hobby of mine is drag racing. I have dropped 5k in rlm to gain 1 second faster time. So value is realtive, you may not see value in it but some do, and that's their choice not your's.

Tyrion87 · March 2017

STEVIL wrote: »

Tyrion87 wrote: »

I am more shocked with the people thinking that this price is reasonable, than with the price itself.

What's wrong with you people... with your acceptance on this the prices will be higher and higher. Is there even any limit for you?

highest sale on first superman comic is like over 2 mil real dollars.

highest sale on first batman is over 1 mil.

Deciding something is "wrong with you" for a group of folks willing to pay ~100 USD maybe more maybe less depending on sales, sub crowns etc for a piece of content they believe they will get sufficient playtime and enjoyment out of is... well...

lets say it raises more questions about "is something wrong with you" than those who buy.

And BTW you just ticked my meter a bit close to the "buy" than it was.

but still gonna wait a bit before committing.

But next crowns sale... definitely a possibility and one a slight bit closer now than before.

^ ZOS, I think you are so happy and lucky for having such generous customers like this one above.

DocFrost72 · March 2017

I suppose most see it as reasonable. Personally, I see it as approaching 100 dollars (without crown sale, of course!). Not sure I value it that much, but that's just me.

imnotanother · March 2017

DocFrost72 wrote: »

I suppose most see it as reasonable. Personally, I see it as approaching 100 dollars (without crown sale, of course!). Not sure I value it that much, but that's just me.

Good thing it is purely optional.

Manpoints · March 2017

Guys, its only $100 unfurnished, $120 furnished, I mean come on, its a very important MICROtransaction, and think about it, you'll be supporting ZOS and their customer friendly pricing strategies. Really letting them know this is alllllll cooool. Thought paying a sub would give you all the DLC? NOPE, but dont complain, Morrowind is an 'expansion' that just matches the previous DLCs in content...but not price. Want to buy a house? Well a digital microtransaction in ESO is only more than the collectors edition of any major game out there or say the combination of ESO/Morrowind currently on the store. *shrug* Really can't see why people are complaining.

Slurg · March 2017

AdamBourke wrote: »

Why is everyone saying this is well priced? It's like, $95!

Because they've been conditioned through recent pricing set by the professional marketing team to expect higher prices. It's basic psychological manipulation.

But hey as long as people want it and can afford it they may as well go for it. Doesn't matter to me.

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luen79rwb17_ESO · March 2017

I don't like this "house", so much water around makes me wanna pee!

Lyeloren · March 2017

Maybe I missed it, but is this something that's a limited time deal on the store, or can we wait for a crown sale? I don't have issue with waiting on sale crowns. But I'm pretty sure my wife would feel the need to slap some stupid out of me if she saw the full price in dollars on the bill.

Sordidfairytale · March 2017

STEVIL wrote: »

... there is a ton of options for that place. imagine putting a big platform/plank flooring for a large sqaure or hexagonal "arena" floating out in the water?

I agree there is a LOT of space however, I would not plan on having the "arena" on the water.
1. Ground targeted skills will go through the platforms. (e.g. sorc mines, templar rings, etc.) Resulting in the player being out of range of any effects.
2. Knockback and other disorienting effects can knock a player through the planks or other player placed items, so that they become stuck.
3. If you have a target dummy in your arena, "you cannot initiate combat on a player placed item" will torment you.

I personally intend to have the dueling area on the large area you enter into and the crafting space out on the water. Or on a platform above the dueling area, on top of the columns above.

Manpoints · March 2017

BUT GUYS, ITS A VERY IMPORTANT MICROTRANSACTION, sure you could buy the entire game for less, sure you could buy 2 other AAA titles for the same money, BUT WHY WOULD YOU? When you could own a digital house, in an mmo? I mean there's that big fight in america over their minimum wage being $8 or something, so someone would only have to work 15 hours to get a furnished house...wait no...I didn't take into account taxes...oh well, STILL A BARGAIN, just think about all the effort that some guy put in over the weekend to clear out the mantikora put in some water and place it on the crown store!

Katahdin · March 2017

Manpoints wrote: »

BUT GUYS, ITS A VERY IMPORTANT MICROTRANSACTION, sure you could buy the entire game for less, sure you could buy 2 other AAA titles for the same money, BUT WHY WOULD YOU? When you could own a digital house, in an mmo? I mean there's that big fight in america over their minimum wage being $8 or something, so someone would only have to work 15 hours to get a furnished house...wait no...I didn't take into account taxes...oh well, STILL A BARGAIN, just think about all the effort that some guy put in over the weekend to clear out the mantikora put in some water and place it on the crown store!

Why does it matter so much to you that you need to post this 3x? What people do with their money they earned is none of your buisness.

You have absolutely no idea what goes into game level development if you think "some guy" made this over the weekend.

Manpoints · March 2017

GrumpyMuffin wrote: »

AdamBourke wrote: »

Why is everyone saying this is well priced? It's like, $95!

I was thinking the same. Why buy several complete games when you can buy a single room in ESO!

I won't judge anyone on how they spend the money they work for, but personally, I feel the pricing of pretty much all the houses (and lately most of the crown store) is bordering on madness. I guess as long as people continue to buy them...

Oh Ima judge, Ima judge HARD, have my kids throw stones at their kids...

Cpt_Teemo · March 2017

Thinking to much with wallet than community, IE: Bioware

Kodrac · March 2017

Tyrion87 wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

Tyrion87 wrote: »

I am more shocked with the people thinking that this price is reasonable, than with the price itself.

What's wrong with you people... with your acceptance on this the prices will be higher and higher. Is there even any limit for you?

highest sale on first superman comic is like over 2 mil real dollars.

highest sale on first batman is over 1 mil.

Deciding something is "wrong with you" for a group of folks willing to pay ~100 USD maybe more maybe less depending on sales, sub crowns etc for a piece of content they believe they will get sufficient playtime and enjoyment out of is... well...

lets say it raises more questions about "is something wrong with you" than those who buy.

And BTW you just ticked my meter a bit close to the "buy" than it was.

but still gonna wait a bit before committing.

But next crowns sale... definitely a possibility and one a slight bit closer now than before.

^ ZOS, I think you are so happy and lucky for having such generous customers like this one above.

The butthurt is strong in this one.

NewBlacksmurf · March 2017

It's time for me to move on to other games.

When cosmetics cost this much but the game itself, dlc, chapters also cost real money......I can find better ways to use those quantities of money and time

xaraan · March 2017

imnotanother wrote: »

AdamBourke wrote: »

Why is everyone saying this is well priced? It's like, $95!

- Some players don't use their ESO+ crowns, at all - so they may have 13-17k in crowns available.
- Crowns were/can be purchased during sales - making the price roughly 40% cheaper.
- Combination of the 2 options above
- Only 1k more than a house you can purchase with virtual gold.

I don't think the crown sales are consistent enough to use them as an excuse to artificially lower prices on crown stores every time this discussion comes up personally.

I also find it hard to believe that many players haven't used any crowns at all for over a year if they haven't been gone from the game, but stayed subbed. Though I realize there are some out there, it's definitely an outlier.

I'd bet crowns that most people are just going to end up paying the full price now, which makes the overpriced argument valid to point - and that point is - if people buy enough of it, then I guess it's not overpriced. In the end, doesn't matter how much QQ there is on the forums, the wallet talks - not forum posts.

Manpoints · March 2017

Katahdin wrote: »

Manpoints wrote: »

BUT GUYS, ITS A VERY IMPORTANT MICROTRANSACTION, sure you could buy the entire game for less, sure you could buy 2 other AAA titles for the same money, BUT WHY WOULD YOU? When you could own a digital house, in an mmo? I mean there's that big fight in america over their minimum wage being $8 or something, so someone would only have to work 15 hours to get a furnished house...wait no...I didn't take into account taxes...oh well, STILL A BARGAIN, just think about all the effort that some guy put in over the weekend to clear out the mantikora put in some water and place it on the crown store!

Why does it matter so much to you that you need to post this 3x? What people do with their money they earned is none of your buisness.

You have absolutely no idea what goes into game level development if you think "some guy" made this over the weekend.

I've been dabbling with Ark mods with their new incentive program for the modders, yeah, that room, a couple of days maybe, not even late ones. The tools and textures already exist, yeah, a couple of days. What do you think creating something like that is like? The Matrix?

But maybe you could give us all a glimpse at your insight, how much time do you think needs to have been spent on content for it to warrant a $100 price tag? Coz AAA games go for alot less than that.

Kodrac · March 2017

Manpoints wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Manpoints wrote: »

BUT GUYS, ITS A VERY IMPORTANT MICROTRANSACTION, sure you could buy the entire game for less, sure you could buy 2 other AAA titles for the same money, BUT WHY WOULD YOU? When you could own a digital house, in an mmo? I mean there's that big fight in america over their minimum wage being $8 or something, so someone would only have to work 15 hours to get a furnished house...wait no...I didn't take into account taxes...oh well, STILL A BARGAIN, just think about all the effort that some guy put in over the weekend to clear out the mantikora put in some water and place it on the crown store!

Why does it matter so much to you that you need to post this 3x? What people do with their money they earned is none of your buisness.

You have absolutely no idea what goes into game level development if you think "some guy" made this over the weekend.

I've been dabbling with Ark mods with their new incentive program for the modders, yeah, that room, a couple of days maybe, not even late ones. The tools and textures already exist, yeah, a couple of days. What do you think creating something like that is like? The Matrix?

This reminds me of the dudes that think because they can whip out a fancy spreadsheet they can be a network administrator.

STEVIL · March 2017

Sordidfairytale wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

... there is a ton of options for that place. imagine putting a big platform/plank flooring for a large sqaure or hexagonal "arena" floating out in the water?

I agree there is a LOT of space however, I would not plan on having the "arena" on the water.
1. Ground targeted skills will go through the platforms. (e.g. sorc mines, templar rings, etc.) Resulting in the player being out of range of any effects.
2. Knockback and other disorienting effects can knock a player through the planks or other player placed items, so that they become stuck.
3. If you have a target dummy in your arena, "you cannot initiate combat on a player placed item" will torment you.

I personally intend to have the dueling area on the large area you enter into and the crafting space out on the water. Or on a platform above the dueling area, on top of the columns above.

On 1 - yeah i know that but i have not had a chance to see what that means for "over swimming" platforms or docks. like i said, want to see some actual performance issues tested first.

On 2 - didn't know that. Course that also gives me ideas for very interesting hedge arena configs.

on 3 - target dummy in arena - good to know.

But yeah might be better to have the dueling in the solid ground area and then convert some of the water to crafting and lounging and the like.

Thanks

Katahdin · March 2017

Manpoints wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Manpoints wrote: »

BUT GUYS, ITS A VERY IMPORTANT MICROTRANSACTION, sure you could buy the entire game for less, sure you could buy 2 other AAA titles for the same money, BUT WHY WOULD YOU? When you could own a digital house, in an mmo? I mean there's that big fight in america over their minimum wage being $8 or something, so someone would only have to work 15 hours to get a furnished house...wait no...I didn't take into account taxes...oh well, STILL A BARGAIN, just think about all the effort that some guy put in over the weekend to clear out the mantikora put in some water and place it on the crown store!

Why does it matter so much to you that you need to post this 3x? What people do with their money they earned is none of your buisness.

You have absolutely no idea what goes into game level development if you think "some guy" made this over the weekend.

I've been dabbling with Ark mods with their new incentive program for the modders, yeah, that room, a couple of days maybe, not even late ones. The tools and textures already exist, yeah, a couple of days. What do you think creating something like that is like? The Matrix?

But maybe you could give us all a glimpse at your insight, how much time do you think needs to have been spent on content for it to warrant a $100 price tag? Coz AAA games go for alot less than that.

I've built levels for games that had the option for player created content, including custom textures and I know others that have done the same.

STEVIL · March 2017

Kodrac wrote: »

Tyrion87 wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

Tyrion87 wrote: »

I am more shocked with the people thinking that this price is reasonable, than with the price itself.

What's wrong with you people... with your acceptance on this the prices will be higher and higher. Is there even any limit for you?

highest sale on first superman comic is like over 2 mil real dollars.

highest sale on first batman is over 1 mil.

Deciding something is "wrong with you" for a group of folks willing to pay ~100 USD maybe more maybe less depending on sales, sub crowns etc for a piece of content they believe they will get sufficient playtime and enjoyment out of is... well...

lets say it raises more questions about "is something wrong with you" than those who buy.

And BTW you just ticked my meter a bit close to the "buy" than it was.

but still gonna wait a bit before committing.

But next crowns sale... definitely a possibility and one a slight bit closer now than before.

^ ZOS, I think you are so happy and lucky for having such generous customers like this one above.

The butthurt is strong in this one.

Can make one want to ask "Can you show me on this doll where the crown store...."

Sordidfairytale · March 2017

STEVIL wrote: »

On 1 - yeah i know that but i have not had a chance to see what that means for "over swimming" platforms or docks. like i said, want to see some actual performance issues tested first.

...

The DK's that duel on my platform at Daggerfall Overlook loved it. Because everything a DK has except Ash cloud is player target and not ground target based. But everything else would fall down into the water like angry mana from the heavens. LOL Pretty funny looking if you were on the lower level, all this magic falling from the sky through the floor into the water below.

LadyLavina · March 2017

imnotanother wrote: »

I think that it is a very reasonable price!

I will be buying it in the near future, hopefully.

that has got to be bait. can't be serious

Edit: in case it's not, no it's not ****ing reasonable. That's more than the Morrowind expansion. If anyone would like to sit and try to defend the prices and explain why it's totally acceptable that they're priced differently/so much higher, let me grab my popcorn first so i can have something to eat during your comedy routine.

Manpoints · March 2017

Katahdin wrote: »

Manpoints wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Manpoints wrote: »

BUT GUYS, ITS A VERY IMPORTANT MICROTRANSACTION, sure you could buy the entire game for less, sure you could buy 2 other AAA titles for the same money, BUT WHY WOULD YOU? When you could own a digital house, in an mmo? I mean there's that big fight in america over their minimum wage being $8 or something, so someone would only have to work 15 hours to get a furnished house...wait no...I didn't take into account taxes...oh well, STILL A BARGAIN, just think about all the effort that some guy put in over the weekend to clear out the mantikora put in some water and place it on the crown store!

Why does it matter so much to you that you need to post this 3x? What people do with their money they earned is none of your buisness.

You have absolutely no idea what goes into game level development if you think "some guy" made this over the weekend.

I've been dabbling with Ark mods with their new incentive program for the modders, yeah, that room, a couple of days maybe, not even late ones. The tools and textures already exist, yeah, a couple of days. What do you think creating something like that is like? The Matrix?

But maybe you could give us all a glimpse at your insight, how much time do you think needs to have been spent on content for it to warrant a $100 price tag? Coz AAA games go for alot less than that.

I've built levels for games that had the option for player created content, including custom textures and I know others that have done the same.

Its not levels bro, its a room, a single room, be it large, if you spent 2 weeks or even a month on a room a game the size of ESO would've taken a decade to complete. Whats your deal anyways? Jumping into threads looking to nit pick some guys post, virtue signal on behalf of whoever he has angst against, in this case the developers...yeah bro, those poor developers are definitely in need of you waving their flag in posts regarding the ridiculous pricing structure around micro-transactions in this game.

Enlighten us, how much is that room worth in your development hours/dollars?

Stopnaggin · March 2017

Really complaining about prices on anything on these forums is pretty sad. What makes it worse are the crusaders who think they have the right to insult others on how they spend their money. I earned my money, my bills are paid and I will spend my money how I see fit.

Wife got a $2000 engagement ring, kids all have I phones, electric is still on. If I want to spend a couple hundred dollars on a hobby it's my business. Don't like the prices, that's fine, can't afford it, oh well. Making some moral stand, good for you. Preaching to others about wasting money, bs. Go preach to someone who has a real problem other than a video game hobby. Stand outside the bar or liquor store and preach to them. Go to a bad neighborhood with drug dealers and preach to the addicts.

It's a game, no matter what someone else buys with rlm, it does not affect who you play. Insulting those who do spend that money isn't going to help. It shows a lack of intelligence and understanding that not eveyone shares your views. You want to debate than carry on, you want to insult, then others will not take you seriously.