Jemcrystal wrote: »

1) Do not pick someone else's node.
2) To claim a node while engaged with the enemy stand directly over the node as you are in battle.
3) If you cannot for some reason stand over the choice node you forfeit your right of claim to said node.
4) Do not pick a node what has a person of some close distance to node unless individual remains still for more than 12 seconds.
5) Do not get pizzy when node is lost to fellow farmer. There are many nodes aplenty and you are being a foolish silly smallmind to get mad at just a game.
6) Give benefit of doubt to other node farmers. Sometimes they do not see you because spacing off bored doing mechanical repetitious node picking and you might have been in their camera blind spot.

Anything anyone might like to add go ahead.

Not covering barrels and chests. Not because it isn't node picking. More because I lack info about the respawn dynamics of chests, barrels, sacks, etc. Not sure if you must take all from them to respawn or not? Not sure if a barrel with a lemon in it, once removed, will chance a recipe/valuable or if it will always respawn a lemon in it?

i like to poop...



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Cryptical wrote: »

JamieAubrey wrote: »

7) Take the worms

TAKE THE WORMS

TAKE THE WORMS

TAKE THE WORMS

TAKE THE WORMS

TAKE THE WORMS

TAKE THE WORMS

TAKE THE WORMS

TAKE THE WORMS

TAKE THE WORMS

TAKE THE WORMS

TAKE THE WORMS

TAKE THE WORMS

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If for no other reason than you can sell stacks of them to those that fish. Have you seen the size of that achievement boat for master angler? It's bigger than a mammoth!

9 zones fished. 11 to go.

TAKE THE CRAWLERS

TAKE THE CRAWLERS

TAKE THE CRAWLERS

TAKE THE CRAWLERS

TAKE THE CRAWLERS

TAKE THE CRAWLERS

TAKE THE CRAWLERS

TAKE THE CRAWLERS


LOL, I couldn't resist haha This thread hits the nail on the head with most of the suggestions being made by other players, though since most mobs can be almost 2 shot in all areas, I'm a believer in whoever opens it first gets it.

Woeler wrote: »

If I am faster than you, bad luck for you.

Exactly this.

I used to get my tail feathers ruffled when somebody would swipe a chest or node on me, heck I even sent out some pretty nasty messages over it in the past.

But after all these years of ESO, I've learned. Not everybody out there is aware of your internal moral code about node sharing. Not everybody out there sees what you see - based on their connection. It's happened to me before that I see a chest - go to press it - and then all of a sudden a player fades in right in front of me, already on the chest. No matter how you try to avoid it - its going to happen sometimes.

If somebody swipes a node or chest from you, just move on to the next and let it go. That's the real best node stealing etiquette.

If you're going to farm for nodes, find a low population zone where you won't be swooped in on - or atleast it's less likely. Personal favourites are the small started islands; Stros M'Kai, Bleakrock - and the Khajit one I can't remember the name of, to the south of the map. Reason is because the only people you will see in those zones are generally low levels - meaning they have limited inventory and a limited understanding of what nodes are for. I watch players walk by them all day because it means nothing to them and the small size of the maps seems to come bundled with a faster resource refresh rate, though this could just be perception.

buttaface wrote: »

I love the "shaming-mewling" in this thread about "common courtesy," "ethics" and other appeals to inapposite abstractions.

When you are farming nodes, all the nodes you can get to first are yours. The end. It has nothing to do with any very strained, high-minded abstractions from mismoralizing nincompoops and fanbois. But it -is- funny to see you rationalizers try.

That said, there -are- a handful of d-chy behaviors with respect to gathering/farming. Most have been mentioned already, such as getting a node where someone is fighting or not looting the whole thing. My pet peeve is high level players putting on their speed suits and picking the three lowbie islands clean because the lowbies there are slow. Those lowbies need the mats far more than you do, CP600. D-chy...

But that isn't "unethical," it isn't a matter of "basic courtesy," nor "manners," nor any other abstraction. It's just being a jerk...IMO..., and it's entirely -subjective-. Stop appealing to some "code of ethics" that doesn't exist in the COC or TOS.

What I love more is when people try strenuously to offer high-minded abstractions and misuse prefixes in an attempt to place value and judgement upon others discussing a topic in an open forum. The punch line comes when they offer their own that is not inapposite with the originals under critique as they take a modicum of diligence to redefine the terms as to appear above that sort of thing.

My rules for nodes/chests:

• If I see it and there isn't a fight going on nearby, it's fair game.
• If I see someone fighting a mob, I join in to help them. When the fight is over, it's anybody's fair game.
• If there are multiple people in an area, I pretty much just run on. There are a huge number of nodes/chests in the game and finding a "secret stash" of them is as simple as just wandering around the corner.

But I know there are players who don't follow these simple rules.

TheShadowScout wrote: »

phileunderx2 wrote: »

Nodes have no ownership. Just take everything in it. Sucks to harvest an enchanting node and find that it only has a ta.

Yeah, everyone taking everything would make all things a lot more pleasant for anyone else. After all, you can always destroy the stuff you don't care for...

Otherwise, just don't be a jerk. Don't take a node someone else is fighting over. Don't try to race someone to a node, if you spot them being closer then you, just move on, get a head start to the next node. (doesn't count for those who just stand around before a node - take it or loose it) And don't bother getting worked up if someone does one of those, just shrug and move on. There's always more nodes, those things respawn after all...

Same rules apply to treasure chests BtW.

Fiord's and jailbreaker sets, The Steed with divines, Windrunning and Rapid Manuever.

My toon runs faster than your horse, so you can be sure that while you're fighting, I'm gonna steal "your" node.

Twice.

Hand_Bacon wrote: »

buttaface wrote: »

I love the "shaming-mewling" in this thread about "common courtesy," "ethics" and other appeals to inapposite abstractions.

When you are farming nodes, all the nodes you can get to first are yours. The end. It has nothing to do with any very strained, high-minded abstractions from mismoralizing nincompoops and fanbois. But it -is- funny to see you rationalizers try.

That said, there -are- a handful of d-chy behaviors with respect to gathering/farming. Most have been mentioned already, such as getting a node where someone is fighting or not looting the whole thing. My pet peeve is high level players putting on their speed suits and picking the three lowbie islands clean because the lowbies there are slow. Those lowbies need the mats far more than you do, CP600. D-chy...

But that isn't "unethical," it isn't a matter of "basic courtesy," nor "manners," nor any other abstraction. It's just being a jerk...IMO..., and it's entirely -subjective-. Stop appealing to some "code of ethics" that doesn't exist in the COC or TOS.

What I love more is when people try strenuously to offer high-minded abstractions and misuse prefixes in an attempt to place value and judgement upon others discussing a topic in an open forum. The punch line comes when they offer their own that is not inapposite with the originals under critique as they take a modicum of diligence to redefine the terms as to appear above that sort of thing.

I guess you didn't comprehend that my issues with node behavior are -subjective-, not objective. In case it's still not clear, my -opinions- about node behaviors don't make fallacious appeals to some mystical -objective- standards. Good luck improving that comprehension.

Poachers suck, and they know it.

And yes, take the worms too.

UrQuan wrote: »

OK, for @JamieAubrey, @phileunderx2, @TheShadowScout, @GarnetFire17, @Hand_Bacon, @I_killed_Vivec, @Draxys, @Linaleah, @Dragonking06, and anyone else who I may have missed in this thread saying things like this:

GarnetFire17 wrote: »

2. Don't leave anything in the node, it can't respawn if you do. Take all or nothing. (On PC there are addons that destroy junk so it doesn't clog inventory)

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

And I don't particularly mind that people leave worms or ta runes. It's indicative of a lack of consideration, but maybe they aren't aware that nodes don't respawn unless emptied...

Linaleah wrote: »

that said, yes, jesus christ PICK UP ALL YOUR STUFF FROM NODES AND CHESTS. you can delete it out of your inventory, but when you just let them sit there, partially unpicked - they don't have a chance to respawn and you are ruining it for EVERYONE. I understand space issues, I really do. delete crap you don;t want. ffs.

Dragonking06 wrote: »

1) Take EVERYTHING from the node so it can respawn for later use.
1a) TAKE. EVERYTHING.

You don't understand the respawn mechanic. The despawn/respawn timer starts after the first person to "open" a node (and the same goes for chests) "closes" it. Whether that person removes everything from the node or leaves some stuff makes exactly zero difference in how long it takes for that node to respawn.

This has been confirmed by devs on the forums, and can be very easily tested by anyone in-game. All you have to do is go to an out of the way location, open a node without removing anything, and wait by it to see how long it takes to despawn and then respawn. Then do the same thing, but take everything out of the node. The amount of time for the respawn will be similar (although not exactly the same, because the timer is based on a number of variables that we can't control in an in-game scenario, like zone population, how many other nodes of the same type there are in the zone, etc).

In short: leaving things in nodes hurts nobody, and it in fact benefits the people coming along who might actually want the worms, or crawlers, or whatever got left behind.

No it doesn't benefit me because I take time to go over to it open it and find out what I'm looking for isn't there. Not one person opens nodes to just farm worms or crawlers. There is no justification to leave stuff in them. These are excuses to make people that do this to feel better about themselves.

If in wanted worms or crawlers I would go to the prison and farm the cages in the room where Lyris talks to the Prophet. You are wasting others time by leaving these things behind, regardless of how fast they spawn.

It speaks volumes about character when concepts such as courtesy, values and morals are considered high-minded abstractions. These are things I was taught in my childhood. And, in turn, taught my children at a very young age. I think the point has been made in this thread. There are those who can justify just about any action or behavior. I have observed this philosophy before. It is extremely prevalent in one particular sub-population: prison inmates. Enough said.

First rule of node harvesting is that there is always another node.

Eh if I happen to grab the node or Chest first then I happen to grab the node or chest first.

If you want to report me for grabbing the node or chest first more power to you. If you want to whisper at me and complain about it then have fun with that I wont be reading it unless I find it funny. If you don't feel this is fair and I'm stomping all over your privilege I'm sure you have a Snowflake safe place somewhere nearby.

TL;DR

First grab first get don't like it oh well.