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Please Nerf Animation Cancelling

nursingninja
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There is no reason for this exploit to be allowed, they should simply place a short cool down timed with instant abilities so that there is no benefit of canceling the animation.
  • ral
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    Almost thought the week would finish Without an animation cancel thread. Darn we were so close to making it over a week.
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  • Utherix
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    Animation cancelling is the best thing about this game's combat. Do you really want to sit on your thumbs in combat casting the same *** every 1.5 seconds with no variation?
  • Aliyavana
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    There is no reason for this exploit to be allowed, they should simply place a short cool down timed with instant abilities so that there is no benefit of canceling the animation.

    No
  • Shunravi
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    There already is a .9 second global cooldown. Stop with these ludicrous threads already.
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  • GrigorijMalahevich
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    How about no.
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  • nursingninja
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    Then how do you propose they stop people from using macros?
  • BigBragg
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    Please animation cancel nerf threads.
  • Shunravi
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    Then how do you propose they stop people from using macros?

    Doing anything to animation canceling will not in any way stop the use of macros.
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  • EldritchPenguin
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    Then how do you propose they stop people from using macros?
    Um, cheat engine detectors? It seems like getting rid of animation cancelling is throwing out the baby with the bathwater here. Don't punish the entire playerbase with a fix intended to get rid of actual cheaters.
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  • Gabrielzavadski
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    I thought like that before (still do sometimes), but try to think like me for a second: You get powerful in a game by having patience (to level up, to undestand dungeons, to gain CP, to earn AP, etc), but imagine this as some kind of special technique that you will learn as you undestand all of the game mechanics, and when you learn them, you will probably know how to cancel animation, or this will be your next objective, in order to optimize your skills.

    Well, that's a immersive way of thinking, but you are right about one thing: this is exploit, and Zenimax should remove this, or do something like a rework on the animations, but I don't know... just do the immersive way! :|
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  • ADarklore
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    I always find it amusing when people want something 'fixed' just because THEY can't be bothered with taking the time to learn it. ZOS has already said that it's an unintended aspect of the game but they do not have any problems with people using it since it is not an 'exploit'.
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  • Loves_guars
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    Utherix wrote: »
    Animation cancelling is the best thing about this game's combat. Do you really want to sit on your thumbs in combat casting the same *** every 1.5 seconds with no variation?

    Definitely yes, although I do animation cancelling, I loathe it, it looks horrible and makes me feel like an hyperactive freak that can't take 2 milliseconds of peace lol! And really what's the point in playing a video game if you can't even see the animations? It feels very cheap and broken imo.
    Edited by Loves_guars on March 5, 2017 9:04PM
  • nursingninja
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    Then how do you propose they stop people from using macros?
    Um, cheat engine detectors? It seems like getting rid of animation cancelling is throwing out the baby with the bathwater here. Don't punish the entire playerbase with a fix intended to get rid of actual cheaters.

    You can't detect hardware macros.
  • Gorgoneus
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    There is no reason for this exploit to be allowed, they should simply place a short cool down timed with instant abilities so that there is no benefit of canceling the animation.
    This is not the game feature but game engine's shortcoming and ZoS cant change it. Or WONT.
    Edited by Gorgoneus on March 5, 2017 9:33PM
  • Khami
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    Gorgoneus wrote: »
    There is no reason for this exploit to be allowed, they should simply place a short cool down timed with instant abilities so that there is no benefit of canceling the animation.
    This is not the game feature but game engine's shortcoming and ZoS cant change it. Or WONT.

    If it's the engine shortcoming, then a bunch of games use the same engine. Little clue, they don't.

    Don't act like ESO is the only game that has animation cancellation, because it's not.

    Here's something about it on a LoL forum. http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1577497
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    I was hoping for the dead horse...
  • JinMori
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    Then how do you propose they stop people from using macros?

    Anti cheat maybe
  • Iskrasfemme
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    Devs go make changes, but, in time, its a complex problem in game. They said that.
  • JinMori
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    Animation cancelling is what makes eso combat so fun, without it combat would be slow and boring.
    Edited by JinMori on March 5, 2017 9:50PM
  • Kram8ion
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    After the last patch I don't even think it's working like it was
    Combat is getting clunkier
    Aussie lag is real!
  • Eirella
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    Utherix wrote: »
    Animation cancelling is the best thing about this game's combat. Do you really want to sit on your thumbs in combat casting the same *** every 1.5 seconds with no variation?
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  • FriedEggSandwich
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    It was nerfed.
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  • QahnaarinDynar
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    Can't tell if trolling or...

    Anyway this matter has been settled several times over and the issue is always L2P. I sucked at it and I learned how to do it after quite some effort (I still suck and am still glad to learn more). The same goes for everyone else including the best PvP'ers in this game who had to learn to do it too at some point. You may as well have said: "ZoS... pls make the game easy for me cuz I wanna be a 1 button hero who doesn't have to work and have everything handed to me on a golden platter."

    And to the ones who think animation cancelling looks bad... try studying in both European and Japanese schools of swordsmanship like I did for at least a decade or so. It's actually nice to know you can remove those repulsive Hollywood trash animations which has corrupted the modern audience of the elegance and proficiency that real sword masters used in the past. Which when you actually understand it at even the most basic standards... well it just reveals a whole different level of beauty in itself. I think ZoS did this game a great justice by embracing it, because then it becomes really immersive by adding an actual real-life historical principle of skill and efficiency into a video game. This isn't DBZ ffs.

    It's not an exploit, ZoS has already embraced it openly many times. Fortunately threads like this go to the trash pile very quickly.
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  • zuto40
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    1: zos said its not an exploit

    2: whats bad about it

    3: someone mentioned macro's, anyone who uses them cannot be the best due to limitations with macros

    4: kindly stop beating this dead horse before people start beating you
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    Shunravi wrote: »
    Then how do you propose they stop people from using macros?

    Doing anything to animation canceling will not in any way stop the use of macros.
    Using an macro for animation canceling does not help much outside of automating the light attack followed by ability.
    It don't work well for channeled stuff anyway and an skilled player is more flexible.

    Is macros for animation canceling against the TOS anyway? You press one button and it does two things, but you have to press the button for it to happen? and if crystal shard proc or you have to get out of red can not be macroed anyway.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • Gallifreyy
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    Its like beating a dead horse. Stop or you will cause long lasting brain damage by writing these posts if you dont already have brain damage
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  • Iskrasfemme
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    ZOS, maintain Anime Cancel, i learn about and, is so cool. lol (now ZOS change mind)
  • ColoursYouHave
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    Sorry OP, ZOS already confirmed its not an exploit.
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