Aetheric Cypher

C4Bliss · February 2017

I have seen them go for 1.5 - 2mill gold on xbox eu

dwqrf · February 2017

Xenophis wrote: »

dwqrf wrote: »

If I would ask any of you of what would be the actual value in real money (euros/dollar) of that much gold ?

I mean, i'm a non dlc player. I didnt wanted to spend so much money buying the game, and I avoided the monthly fee. I was actually wondering if this aetheric cypher could get me a full DLC pack or even Morrowind

I like almost how everyone ignores the fact that this guy just posted that he wants to look into RMTing his cipher. Dwqrf, you do understand that their is a difference between MMOs that SANCTION THEIR own RMT systems that don't breach their ToS and MOST MMOs that ban gold / item sellers without batting an eye lash, right?

I won't deny my curiosity about the given value of a virtual object which is encountered, and after further investigation, everybody I talked to in game told me that was one of the rarest thing in this game (I have no clue what could be the other things). So my curiosity led me to post a topic in the official ESO forum.

For what I've heard on found on some forums, people tell me it's between 2 and 4 millions gold. Well, being new to the game, I have no clue what that does represent. Playing Diablo 3 you get a million gold before hitting max level; in world of warcraft, well, you lose four zeros. Will I ever reach few millions gold playing casually for the next year, or will my gold be an issue for bank space and other features ? Should I sell this item for gold in guild store ?

But this gold isnt only a number, it's a transaction mostly of TIME, cause eventually, everyone will drop it after some point of playing the game, and the people who don't and buy such recipe do that in purpose of saving some potential infinite farming until they drop it themselves. And the gold they earned is as well depending of the time they play (and what they do, but mostly time), being the exchange currency.

And time is money, so the value in eso gold has a value in dollar/eu. And i'm curious about it. Since ever, in every multiplayer trading-friendly video game having loot of the kind, gear with randomize traits, rarely being ever the exact one you are looking for, people have always been trying to convert theses virtual values into actual money. It's not a sin.

And as I said before, playing Diablo 3 while the real money auction house was live, I started being interested about what people value - and so did every company. Playing Warframe was an interesting experience, as you can drop a fair amount of things through a long grind, and as you can trade theses object for a in game money (crowns-like) ; money which you could use then in the game store, to buy thing without opening your wallet, while other people could pay for. It's again a transaction of time : either you grind 10 days, either you work and use money to buy the same stuff. But in Warframe, you could tell the price of a drop straight away, seeing how much "crowns" people would trade for, and converting in your head this crowns into money. Was it making real money coming into my account in the end ? No, but I still had this idea of considering the price of the things I dropped and traded, when I knew the people buying where using they hard worked money to "buy" something I just randomly found while Playing a Game.

LMar · February 2017

Selling items for real money is probably a breach of the terms of service

Cpt_Teemo · February 2017

LMar wrote: »

Selling items for real money is probably a breach of the terms of service

Not probably, "Is"

Ilsabet · February 2017

Considering that it's not kosher to buy in-game items from other players for real money, the only way to get any kind of workable "conversion" is to look at items that players can buy from the crown store and compare those crown prices to the going rate in gold for those items. So you might look at motifs, furniture, maybe the cost of buying homes in gold vs. crowns.

That would be only for your own insight, though, if you're interested in that sort of thing. I don't think anybody uses a crowns-to-gold conversion rate to decide how to price things they're selling for gold. And selling a cipher for 4 million gold isn't going to help you get a new DLC or expansion.

To answer an earlier question, you could buy an awful lot with 4 million gold. Which means you can save a lot of time by just buying things you might otherwise spend time to farm, like motif pages, non-bind-on-pickup gear, furniture and furniture plans, mats, and whatever else you can find on a guild trader that you might want. You can get yourself a nice house of whatever size appeals to you. You can max out your inventory on multiple characters. You can stroll down the street accompanied by the jingle of the many many coins in your pocket. It's all up to you.

Xenophis · February 2017

dwqrf wrote: »

Xenophis wrote: »

dwqrf wrote: »

If I would ask any of you of what would be the actual value in real money (euros/dollar) of that much gold ?

I mean, i'm a non dlc player. I didnt wanted to spend so much money buying the game, and I avoided the monthly fee. I was actually wondering if this aetheric cypher could get me a full DLC pack or even Morrowind

I like almost how everyone ignores the fact that this guy just posted that he wants to look into RMTing his cipher. Dwqrf, you do understand that their is a difference between MMOs that SANCTION THEIR own RMT systems that don't breach their ToS and MOST MMOs that ban gold / item sellers without batting an eye lash, right?

I won't deny my curiosity about the given value of a virtual object which is encountered, and after further investigation, everybody I talked to in game told me that was one of the rarest thing in this game (I have no clue what could be the other things). So my curiosity led me to post a topic in the official ESO forum.

For what I've heard on found on some forums, people tell me it's between 2 and 4 millions gold. Well, being new to the game, I have no clue what that does represent. Playing Diablo 3 you get a million gold before hitting max level; in world of warcraft, well, you lose four zeros. Will I ever reach few millions gold playing casually for the next year, or will my gold be an issue for bank space and other features ? Should I sell this item for gold in guild store ?

But this gold isnt only a number, it's a transaction mostly of TIME, cause eventually, everyone will drop it after some point of playing the game, and the people who don't and buy such recipe do that in purpose of saving some potential infinite farming until they drop it themselves. And the gold they earned is as well depending of the time they play (and what they do, but mostly time), being the exchange currency.

And time is money, so the value in eso gold has a value in dollar/eu. And i'm curious about it. Since ever, in every multiplayer trading-friendly video game having loot of the kind, gear with randomize traits, rarely being ever the exact one you are looking for, people have always been trying to convert theses virtual values into actual money. It's not a sin.

And as I said before, playing Diablo 3 while the real money auction house was live, I started being interested about what people value - and so did every company. Playing Warframe was an interesting experience, as you can drop a fair amount of things through a long grind, and as you can trade theses object for a in game money (crowns-like) ; money which you could use then in the game store, to buy thing without opening your wallet, while other people could pay for. It's again a transaction of time : either you grind 10 days, either you work and use money to buy the same stuff. But in Warframe, you could tell the price of a drop straight away, seeing how much "crowns" people would trade for, and converting in your head this crowns into money. Was it making real money coming into my account in the end ? No, but I still had this idea of considering the price of the things I dropped and traded, when I knew the people buying where using they hard worked money to "buy" something I just randomly found while Playing a Game.

You sound extremely naive right now. The way you're putting it, you probably don't even know what RMT actually stands for and how much of a problem it is for the MMO industry... Since the dawn of MMOs.

(I've already flagged several of your posts.)

ZOS_Bill · February 2017

We have closed this thread. The discussion has veered into selling items for real money, which is against the terms of service and not permitted on the forums.