Alchemy traits name changed ?

Tommy_The_Gun · February 2017

So I had an alchemy master crafting writ that required me to craft poisons with following traits:
- Ravage Stamina
- Fracture
- Enervating

And I was like... What ? ? What are those traits ?! After some research and I was able realize weird thing:

"Enervating" used to be called: "Lower Weapon Crit"
and
"Fracture" used to be called: "Lower Armor"
http://www.sunshine-daydream.us/ESO/alchemy.html

I am not using any add-ons, and I remember not so long ago seeing trait "Lower Weapon Crit" & "Lower Armor" in alchemy crafting station. Was this a recent change ? When was it changed ? Or is it only some weird bug ?
For non - English native speaker this change is very misleading....

anitajoneb17_ESO · February 2017

Alchemy traits haven't changed names.
However, existing traits have different effects depending on whether they are used with a positive solvent (Lorkhan's tears for instance) or a negative solvent (like alkahest).

Tommy_The_Gun · February 2017

Well traits don't change names when I change solvent. No matter if I pick Lorkhan's tears for crafting a potion or alkahest for poison). What I meant is no meter if I craft potion or poison - the trait name is "Fracture" - and I remember to see "Lower Armor". That is why I ask...

Ourorboros · February 2017

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Alchemy traits haven't changed names.
However, existing traits have different effects depending on whether they are used with a positive solvent (Lorkhan's tears for instance) or a negative solvent (like alkahest).

Are you sure names didn't change with Homestead? I crafted a lot of poisons when we got them and I don't recall seeing these alchemy traits until Homestead. I noticed this when I unlocked all the traits on a few alts to improve a shot at Master writs. I assumed the new names came with Homestead. And just to reiterate, I use all types of solvents when I unlock the traits.

anitajoneb17_ESO · February 2017

Ourorboros wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Alchemy traits haven't changed names.
However, existing traits have different effects depending on whether they are used with a positive solvent (Lorkhan's tears for instance) or a negative solvent (like alkahest).

Are you sure names didn't change with Homestead? I crafted a lot of poisons when we got them and I don't recall seeing these alchemy traits until Homestead. I noticed this when I unlocked all the traits on a few alts to improve a shot at Master writs. I assumed the new names came with Homestead. And just to reiterate, I use all types of solvents when I unlock the traits.

I switched my game interface from french to english recently so frankly I cannot be 100% sure that the names haven't changed.
But what I am 100% sure of is that the effect names in the master writs may vary. For instance, a POISON with the "ravage stamina" effect will show something like "stamina abilities will cost 60% more" in the poison's tooltip.
In the reagent's tooltip, it's possible that they have changed things and I haven't noticed due to having changed the game's language.

Tommy_The_Gun · February 2017

So it is normal then ? It is not a bug ? The names of alchemy traits actually changed ? I can't find it any confirmation in recent patch notes, but in game names says otherwise... Some official information or confirmation could be nice...

Leandor · February 2017

I guess it was changed and the change is aligning in naming according to the respective debuff name.

Tevalaur · February 2017

@Tommy_The_Gun Thanks for linking my site. After noticing that and this thread I have now updated that webpage.

I'm not sure when, but yes, several alchemy reagents traits have been renamed. What I noted in-game as I'm reworking that page are:

Lower Spell Resistance -> Breach
Increase Physical Resistance -> Increase Armor
Lower Physical Resistance -> Fracture
Lower Weapon Power -> Maim
Lower Weapon Crit -> Enervation
Lower Spell Power -> Cowardice
Lower Spell Crit -> Uncertainty
Sustained Restore Health -> Lingering Health
Creeping Ravage Health -> Gradual Ravage Health
Reduce Speed -> Hindrance
Stun -> Entrapment

Ourorboros · February 2017

Tevalaur wrote: »

@Tommy_The_Gun Thanks for linking my site. After noticing that and this thread I have now updated that webpage.

I'm not sure when, but yes, several alchemy reagents traits have been renamed. What I noted in-game as I'm reworking that page are:

Lower Spell Resistance -> Breach
Increase Physical Resistance -> Increase Armor
Lower Physical Resistance -> Fracture
Lower Weapon Power -> Maim
Lower Weapon Crit -> Enervation
Lower Spell Power -> Cowardice
Lower Spell Crit -> Uncertainty
Sustained Restore Health -> Lingering Health
Creeping Ravage Health -> Gradual Ravage Health
Reduce Speed -> Hindrance
Stun -> Entrapment

@Tevalaur Thanks for listing out the changes like this. I've saved this in case I ever do get an alchemy writ, so I don't bang my head on a wall trying to decipher the writ!