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Need help with sorc setup to run v. maelstrom :(

LuminaLilly
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After finally getting flawless on my magicka night blade, I transfer my gear to do it on my sorc. I have way too much difficulty doing it on my sorc. I tried many different setups. 5 lich 5 spinners 2 infernal. 5 lich 5 julianos 3willpoeer. 5 spinner 5 Juliano( dual wield build, LOL) I have difficulty getting past rink of frozen ice. I know it's laughable, anyone have any tips?
  • LuminaLilly
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    i even use a lot of aoe moves like liquid lighting and wall of elements.

  • Koolio
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    Done it with multiple gear sets. Lich Spinners should be plenty of everything. Infernal is my personal favorite for VMSA. Any part in particular giving you trouble?
  • LuminaLilly
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    @Koolio ring of frozen ice
  • Koolio
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    I pretty much just stand on the first platform with my back towards the other platforms. This way infernal Guardian will always let you know when A troll is playing donkey kong. Then I just stack all the adds on the platform Ult and Aoe everything. The tighter the group the better since Infernal is an Aoe. If needed move to the backside of the platform to bring the range adds together. Wall of element the adds coming to you from the other platforms in the water. For me it's all about bringing the adds to platform 1 since you can shield stack through almost all damage. I do run hardened&harness. Are the rounds giving you problems or the boss?
  • LuminaLilly
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    Koolio wrote: »
    I pretty much just stand on the first platform with my back towards the other platforms. This way infernal Guardian will always let you know when A troll is playing donkey kong. Then I just stack all the adds on the platform Ult and Aoe everything. The tighter the group the better since Infernal is an Aoe. If needed move to the backside of the platform to bring the range adds together. Wall of element the adds coming to you from the other platforms in the water. For me it's all about bringing the adds to platform 1 since you can shield stack through almost all damage. I do run hardened&harness. Are the rounds giving you problems or the boss?

    @Koolio the boss going tard rage and breaking my platforms.
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    The boss is supposed to break them at 75% 50% and then timed on the 3rd one. I use overload for mines. Before the boss starts I drop mines since they last awhile. Using the speed platform first. Apply dots and frags when ready. Move to the left side of the platform to bring the two adds closer when they appear. Save ultimate. Aoe all three until the boss rages. Quickly get off platform/grab sigil if needed. Move to healing sigil platform. Move to the far side to bring adds closer. Kill add first then apply everything to boss. Move to the sigil on the platform then ultimate(suggest destro for this) it should kill all the adds and rage the boss to break this platform. Move to third platform closest to the 2nd platforms. Attack boss only on this phase because he will rage quicker. If your still finding it difficult it could be those sets considering they don't have the best DPS but should be plenty. Just make sure you actively try and proc Infernal. Not sure how well it does if you are on PC with the nerfs.

    Bar 1 for me it Hardened inner light woe crushing frags destro Ult
    Bar 2 power surge harness boundless healing ward/endless fury/ mutagen(I almost never use any of these lol) LL. Overload/lifegiver.
  • LuminaLilly
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    I'll give this a try, I'm used to two shotting every add with close to 40k heave attacks on my Magicka NB xD.
  • Koolio
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    A lot of the times I actually don't even kill the ads. Sometimes the archer from the first platform follows me all the way to the last one. What system/server?
  • MissBizz
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    I don't have flawless but magicka sorc is the only one I've done VMA on. I run 2 illambris, 5pc Julianos and 3pc Willpower.

    Crushing Shocks/Frags/hardened ward(or harness magicka)/inner light/Bound Aegis
    Wall of elements/Liquid Lightning/Boundless Storm/Power Surge/Bound Aegies

    I find the ice arena as one of the easy ones. Focus adds until dead, then work boss down, change platforms, kill all adds, work boss down, final platform -> grab power and defense sigil, ignore adds and kill boss.

    If the boss break the platform that's killing you... well that's a mechanic. Just watch for the magic health numbers and run off right before then. The DoTs will take the boss down for you.
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  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    VMA is the one place I prefer to build for overload. I did my flawless with a front bar fire staff (5 TBS, 4 elegant, 2 Llambris) and back bar DW (5TBS, 5 elegant, 2 Llambris). To pull that off you wear 4 pieces of TBS armor and 1 weapon on each bar and elegant jewelry, one piece of armor, and one back bar weapon. Then you overload from your back bar and just melt stuff. Julianos is a perfectly fine substitute (better for score) but I wanted the stats from TBS for a flawless run.

    Bars I ran:
    Destro:Force pulse, blockade, bound armaments, inner light, hardened ward, meteor (never cast it)

    DW: liquid lighting, power surge, dark conversion, boundless storm, bound armaments, overload.

    Overload: liquid lightning, power surge, ward, inner light, bound armaments.

    Normally I run frags on the front bar, but for flawless I like the front bar shield. You also don't need inner light on your back bar so you have a flex. Dark conversion is pretty nice for sustain if you spam a lot of shields. For speed runs, that's where I run ward. I also try to make my overload bar totally self sufficient. If you get In Trouble, swap to your overload and alternate between spamming light attacks and shields. Also boundless storm is very underrated in there. Keep it up. Lastly, power surge is life. 9 times out of 10 when I die, i realize a let it run out.
  • GrigorijMalahevich
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    Probably too much dps. Damage till 70% kill ads, continues to next platform and don't dps too fast, kill ads as priority. Last platform is the one with shield and damage sigil. After boss breakes second platform just take these two sigils and kill the boss ignoring everything else. Easy.

    The only thing here is too much dps = death.
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  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Probably too much dps. Damage till 70% kill ads, continues to next platform and don't dps too fast, kill ads as priority. Last platform is the one with shield and damage sigil. After boss breakes second platform just take these two sigils and kill the boss ignoring everything else. Easy.

    The only thing here is too much dps = death.

    Agreed. That is the one fight in the game where you can overcook the boss and get in trouble. Now you certainly can do a straight burn on him, but its risky. I have successfully killed him with all 8 adds on the screen, but its not recommended.
  • souravami
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    Is overload builds still viable in vMA? With only 500 ult it's very hard to burn down bosses.
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  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    souravami wrote: »
    Is overload builds still viable in vMA? With only 500 ult it's very hard to burn down bosses.

    Yes, but you need to build for it, AKA Elegant DW.
  • LuminaLilly
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    Koolio wrote: »
    A lot of the times I actually don't even kill the ads. Sometimes the archer from the first platform follows me all the way to the last one. What system/server?

    Xb1 na
  • LuminaLilly
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    Thanks guys, I had no idea the boss actually breaks the platforms at certain health percentage. That's why I tried to kill the boss as quickly as I can because I thought it was a DPS race while leaving all the ads to nuke me down ha ha Ha. I was able to nuke down a lot of things with my magic night Blade. It's a heavy attack build only for PVD, my sorc was mainly PVP, but I kind of want to get the flawless title on it
    Edited by LuminaLilly on February 15, 2017 9:52PM
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Thanks guys, I had no idea the boss actually breaks the platforms at certain health percentage. That's why I tried to kill the boss as quickly as I can because I thought it was a DPS race while leaving all the ads to nuke me down ha ha Ha. I was able to nuke down a lot of things with my magic night Blade. It's a heavy attack build only for PVD, my sorc was mainly PVP, but I kind of want to get the flawless title on it

    Boss Breaks platforms at 75% 40% and 5%, and waives of adds spawn at 90, 60 and 30. I think it is a really good idea to pace this fight and hold DPS at each threshold. If playing it really safe, hold DPS before each one of these and wait for a troll to spawn. Then take out the troll, push the boss to the next threshold and repeat. That way you are only dealing with one extra thing at a time. When you get 2 adds, a neried, and a troll at the same time, things get messy.
  • LuminaLilly
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    @Oreyn_Bearclaw @MissBizz @Koolio got flawless on my sorc. Thanks for the tips
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    @Oreyn_Bearclaw @MissBizz @Koolio got flawless on my sorc. Thanks for the tips

    Awesome! Grats on the accomplishment. Glad my rantings were useful. :smile:
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    I didn't help much at all, but wow, if you didn't know about the health percentages no wonder that's the one that would get you. Congrats!!
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  • soll
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    5 necro
    3 moon dancer
    2 illabris
    Rather random or good staves inferno back bar + lightning front bar

    use familar instead of bound armor, it's way too OP now, keep mages light. as ulti I sometimes shoot OL.
    I have 50k magica, 75 CP in DOT's.

    whole vMA gameplay on mana sorc is easy-cheesy as never before: press familar, drop DOTs, press shield, heavy attack – you won vMA, congrats.
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  • Masel
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    soll wrote: »
    5 necro
    3 moon dancer
    2 illabris
    Rather random or good staves inferno back bar + lightning front bar

    use familar instead of bound armor, it's way too OP now, keep mages light. as ulti I sometimes shoot OL.
    I have 50k magica, 75 CP in DOT's.

    whole vMA gameplay on mana sorc is easy-cheesy as never before: press familar, drop DOTs, press shield, heavy attack – you won vMA, congrats.

    If you need that in more detail and with a video:

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/302925/infallible-infinite-wizard-magsorc-vma-build-video-homestead-ready/p1

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  • Koolio
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    @Oreyn_Bearclaw @MissBizz @Koolio got flawless on my sorc. Thanks for the tips

    Now if I could not blue screen on the last boss at 10% health I could get mine. Happened 3 times so far.
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    i even use a lot of aoe moves like liquid lighting and wall of elements.

    Delete this.
    Edited by DragonBound on February 21, 2017 10:54PM
  • aLi3nZ
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    What round you having issues with. I play sorc on vma. Sometimes had issues on last platform final boss for ice rink.

    I think it's better to use shields to mitigate damage and execute boss when it spawns the last lot of adds. Only have died when focusing too much on adds at final platform. I don't bother with aoe. Slap on healing ward with hardened ward over too for op shield stack heals if in trouble.

    I run this/ I think it's more pvp focused but works for me. I am trying for flawless run currently. Basically I only die I last round currently so need a bit more practice but have to be careful all rounds and especially the poison round need to stay far away from boss so he doesn't stun them bite

    5x bsw
    5x clever alchemist
    2x Lambris(I own lots of helm sets so I am always rotating) I even did vma with pirate skelly set 1 time
    Astronanch for magika regen + witches brew so that gives 1850 regen total
    Edited by aLi3nZ on February 22, 2017 12:50AM
  • xboxNA corin6
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    CosmicSoul wrote: »
    i even use a lot of aoe moves like liquid lighting and wall of elements.

    Delete this.

    Why?
    I'm a magsorc
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