ColoursYouHave wrote: »

You know, dbgager, I'd be more than happy to craft you the exact same gear I was wearing.

Also, FYI, different skills do different amounts of damage, and the skill you're probably referring to that hit for 30k was Crystal Fragments, one of the highest damage skills in the game. The "multiple effects" you think you saw were actually just light/heavy attacks or other abilities...

And next time you're playing, go to your character sheet and look for something called "weapon damage" and "spell damage". That is far more important than your individual weapon when it comes to the amount of damage you can do. I didn't have some crazy "50k damage" weapon or whatever, I just did things to boost that spell damage value so I would do more damage with spells...

you are you PC NA? Whats your @name if so?

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

You know, dbgager, I'd be more than happy to craft you the exact same gear I was wearing.

Also, FYI, different skills do different amounts of damage, and the skill you're probably referring to that hit for 30k was Crystal Fragments, one of the highest damage skills in the game. The "multiple effects" you think you saw were actually just light/heavy attacks or other abilities...

And next time you're playing, go to your character sheet and look for something called "weapon damage" and "spell damage". That is far more important than your individual weapon when it comes to the amount of damage you can do. I didn't have some crazy "50k damage" weapon or whatever, I just did things to boost that spell damage value so I would do more damage with spells...

you are you PC NA? Whats your @name if so?

I am on PC/NA, @name is @ColoursYouHave.

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

You know, dbgager, I'd be more than happy to craft you the exact same gear I was wearing.

Also, FYI, different skills do different amounts of damage, and the skill you're probably referring to that hit for 30k was Crystal Fragments, one of the highest damage skills in the game. The "multiple effects" you think you saw were actually just light/heavy attacks or other abilities...

And next time you're playing, go to your character sheet and look for something called "weapon damage" and "spell damage". That is far more important than your individual weapon when it comes to the amount of damage you can do. I didn't have some crazy "50k damage" weapon or whatever, I just did things to boost that spell damage value so I would do more damage with spells...

you are you PC NA? Whats your @name if so?

I am on PC/NA, @name is @ColoursYouHave.

Sent you a thank you card:)

dbgager wrote: »

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

What did you do . Make that with a top skilled crafter and give it to your new guy. This was supposed to be a new character with a weapon picked up in Glenumbra. Give a guy a great weapon that does 5-10 times more damage than anything you could find around there and kills him before he can even get off one spell and of course its easyville. But that is not what was claimed. my entire debate was that the initial claim was not possible.

More infact i just looked at it closely . That thing is doing more than 30k damage a hit to him..even more infact cause it seems to have multiple effects..lol. Come on ..Jeez.... So don't act like you proved something to me. Thats not what was being talked about.

• dbgager wrote: »

  It took you 47 seconds. Like I said BS you did not kill him in 6 seconds. That was my only comment. And you just proved my point. Thank you. I asked for a video proving you killed him in 6 seconds and you provided a video proving you did not.

• dbgager wrote: »

  My comment is just stating what I see is everybody thinks this can be done in 6 seconds. I mean I would think you guys are veterans of the game. I have only played like a week. And I say its impossible.

• dbgager wrote: »

  Just nevermind. You guys will never admit I am right . It cannot be done in 6 seconds. I know I a m though. Have a good day...

• dbgager wrote: »

  When exactly did I say that would you like to point out where I dared people to fight the boss with low level toons. Good luck with that. Read the thread again..You don't even know what the debate was about . It was about defeating the boss in 6 seconds with any toon. Your just trying to find something to validate your comments. Well making stuff up doesn't work...Sorry. Anway the boss is beaten and your not going to beat it in 6 seconds.So your just rehashing. Its time for this thread to die...

The fact that you think you need to be a skilled crafter to make good crafted sets, or that crafted weapons do 5x more damage than dropped weapons, or are even better than dropped weapons, for that matter, is just your lack of experience showing. Some of the best sets in the game are overland dropped sets.

And now you're trying to say skills with multiple effects aren't allowed either? That just because you don't know how to do decent damage other new character shouldn't be able to either? How do you know that the other guy didn't find a good dropped set, and have a good dps rotation with all the proper buffs?

You're right, I may not have proved anything to you, but that's okay, because I have proved to anybody that will ever read this thread that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, nor do you have the willingness to actually learn what is going on.

And they all apply to the initial debate you don't have to repeat it word for word for it to be what you are debating.

Well if that 50k damage staff is available as a drop in Glenumbra get it. Thing is its not...Very doubtful anything like that is going to be dropped.

And then you try to come at me like am stating something that is not true when your the one trying to put one over on me. Stick to the challenge if you can do that I will admit I am wrong.

You barely did it with a 50k damge weapon..

I don't recommend continuing that discussion unless you want to be seen as a troll, a golden, same-level weapon offers 1335 weapon/spell damage.

And, just for some cheek, you imply that it was not done and then say that it was "barely" done in the next line.

And your point it what since the boss has like 70-80k Hitpoints..and where talking abouut a 6 second battle. I don't understand how 1335 equates to 80000 is 6 seconds. I am not trying to be snotty or anything . But explain please.

The 1335 is the damage value of the weapon itself, statistical points like Maximum Stamina or Weapon Damage. It's used in formulae to calculate the damage of all of your attacks, or rather that number counts as both Weapon and Spell Damage stats. if you drop all equipment except for your weapon, these values would align in your Character menu, unless you have some passive skill slotted that increases Weapon Damage.

To summarize, a 1335 damage weapon does not make your attacks deal 1335 damage ^^

I see that . I understand it modified by all the buffs through skills and equipment. I get that. But a level 15 character with no other characters crafting for him on his own with the skills he can aquire in 15 levels is not going to make that 1335 in to 50+ k in 1 hit. ANd that is my question.

But your spell/weapon damage on your character sheet does not equal the amount of damage skills do either. You have your spell or weapon damage (lets say 1335), and then each skill has a damage modifier which is multiplied by that weapon damage or spell damage to determine how much damage that skill does. That skill I used that hit for 30k has a very high damage modifier (might even be the highest non-ultimate in the game), so it does the most damage. If you use a different skill with a smaller damage modifier wearing the exact same gear, it'll do less damage. So that 1335 was never 50k... it was never even close.

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

What did you do . Make that with a top skilled crafter and give it to your new guy. This was supposed to be a new character with a weapon picked up in Glenumbra. Give a guy a great weapon that does 5-10 times more damage than anything you could find around there and kills him before he can even get off one spell and of course its easyville. But that is not what was claimed. my entire debate was that the initial claim was not possible.

More infact i just looked at it closely . That thing is doing more than 30k damage a hit to him..even more infact cause it seems to have multiple effects..lol. Come on ..Jeez.... So don't act like you proved something to me. Thats not what was being talked about.

• dbgager wrote: »

  It took you 47 seconds. Like I said BS you did not kill him in 6 seconds. That was my only comment. And you just proved my point. Thank you. I asked for a video proving you killed him in 6 seconds and you provided a video proving you did not.

• dbgager wrote: »

  My comment is just stating what I see is everybody thinks this can be done in 6 seconds. I mean I would think you guys are veterans of the game. I have only played like a week. And I say its impossible.

• dbgager wrote: »

  Just nevermind. You guys will never admit I am right . It cannot be done in 6 seconds. I know I a m though. Have a good day...

• dbgager wrote: »

  When exactly did I say that would you like to point out where I dared people to fight the boss with low level toons. Good luck with that. Read the thread again..You don't even know what the debate was about . It was about defeating the boss in 6 seconds with any toon. Your just trying to find something to validate your comments. Well making stuff up doesn't work...Sorry. Anway the boss is beaten and your not going to beat it in 6 seconds.So your just rehashing. Its time for this thread to die...

The fact that you think you need to be a skilled crafter to make good crafted sets, or that crafted weapons do 5x more damage than dropped weapons, or are even better than dropped weapons, for that matter, is just your lack of experience showing. Some of the best sets in the game are overland dropped sets.

And now you're trying to say skills with multiple effects aren't allowed either? That just because you don't know how to do decent damage other new character shouldn't be able to either? How do you know that the other guy didn't find a good dropped set, and have a good dps rotation with all the proper buffs?

You're right, I may not have proved anything to you, but that's okay, because I have proved to anybody that will ever read this thread that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, nor do you have the willingness to actually learn what is going on.

And they all apply to the initial debate you don't have to repeat it word for word for it to be what you are debating.

Well if that 50k damage staff is available as a drop in Glenumbra get it. Thing is its not...Very doubtful anything like that is going to be dropped.

And then you try to come at me like am stating something that is not true when your the one trying to put one over on me. Stick to the challenge if you can do that I will admit I am wrong.

You barely did it with a 50k damge weapon..

I don't recommend continuing that discussion unless you want to be seen as a troll, a golden, same-level weapon offers 1335 weapon/spell damage.

And, just for some cheek, you imply that it was not done and then say that it was "barely" done in the next line.

And your point it what since the boss has like 70-80k Hitpoints..and where talking abouut a 6 second battle. I don't understand how 1335 equates to 80000 is 6 seconds. I am not trying to be snotty or anything . But explain please.

The 1335 is the damage value of the weapon itself, statistical points like Maximum Stamina or Weapon Damage. It's used in formulae to calculate the damage of all of your attacks, or rather that number counts as both Weapon and Spell Damage stats. if you drop all equipment except for your weapon, these values would align in your Character menu, unless you have some passive skill slotted that increases Weapon Damage.

To summarize, a 1335 damage weapon does not make your attacks deal 1335 damage ^^

I see that . But a level 15 character with no other characters crafting for him on his own with the skills he can aquire in 15 levels is not going to make that 1335 in to 50+ k in 1 hit. ANd that is my question.

Well, due to One Tamriel (patch a few months ago that made players scale to "top level" for overland content) a level 15 player gets a fair lot of statistical advantages. A level 15 new player with random looted gear isn't going to kill a boss in 6 seconds, a more experienced player without previously-crafted or looted gear I estimate could do 10 or 12 seconds, and a truly new player is a wild unpredictable variable.

To be absolutely frank with you, most crafted gear is not really good. Some sets are okay, but for many people crafting is just a way to hold gear slots while they collect looted things they want to use. The person who posted the video probably could have done it in 4 seconds with a good collection of looted gear, or maybe even 2 or 1 with a PvP-like stealth oriented gank build.

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

What did you do . Make that with a top skilled crafter and give it to your new guy. This was supposed to be a new character with a weapon picked up in Glenumbra. Give a guy a great weapon that does 5-10 times more damage than anything you could find around there and kills him before he can even get off one spell and of course its easyville. But that is not what was claimed. my entire debate was that the initial claim was not possible.

More infact i just looked at it closely . That thing is doing more than 30k damage a hit to him..even more infact cause it seems to have multiple effects..lol. Come on ..Jeez.... So don't act like you proved something to me. Thats not what was being talked about.

• dbgager wrote: »

  It took you 47 seconds. Like I said BS you did not kill him in 6 seconds. That was my only comment. And you just proved my point. Thank you. I asked for a video proving you killed him in 6 seconds and you provided a video proving you did not.

• dbgager wrote: »

  My comment is just stating what I see is everybody thinks this can be done in 6 seconds. I mean I would think you guys are veterans of the game. I have only played like a week. And I say its impossible.

• dbgager wrote: »

  Just nevermind. You guys will never admit I am right . It cannot be done in 6 seconds. I know I a m though. Have a good day...

• dbgager wrote: »

  When exactly did I say that would you like to point out where I dared people to fight the boss with low level toons. Good luck with that. Read the thread again..You don't even know what the debate was about . It was about defeating the boss in 6 seconds with any toon. Your just trying to find something to validate your comments. Well making stuff up doesn't work...Sorry. Anway the boss is beaten and your not going to beat it in 6 seconds.So your just rehashing. Its time for this thread to die...

The fact that you think you need to be a skilled crafter to make good crafted sets, or that crafted weapons do 5x more damage than dropped weapons, or are even better than dropped weapons, for that matter, is just your lack of experience showing. Some of the best sets in the game are overland dropped sets.

And now you're trying to say skills with multiple effects aren't allowed either? That just because you don't know how to do decent damage other new character shouldn't be able to either? How do you know that the other guy didn't find a good dropped set, and have a good dps rotation with all the proper buffs?

You're right, I may not have proved anything to you, but that's okay, because I have proved to anybody that will ever read this thread that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, nor do you have the willingness to actually learn what is going on.

And they all apply to the initial debate you don't have to repeat it word for word for it to be what you are debating.

Well if that 50k damage staff is available as a drop in Glenumbra get it. Thing is its not...Very doubtful anything like that is going to be dropped.

And then you try to come at me like am stating something that is not true when your the one trying to put one over on me. Stick to the challenge if you can do that I will admit I am wrong.

You barely did it with a 50k damge weapon..

I don't recommend continuing that discussion unless you want to be seen as a troll, a golden, same-level weapon offers 1335 weapon/spell damage.

And, just for some cheek, you imply that it was not done and then say that it was "barely" done in the next line.

And your point it what since the boss has like 70-80k Hitpoints..and where talking abouut a 6 second battle. I don't understand how 1335 equates to 80000 is 6 seconds. I am not trying to be snotty or anything . But explain please.

The 1335 is the damage value of the weapon itself, statistical points like Maximum Stamina or Weapon Damage. It's used in formulae to calculate the damage of all of your attacks, or rather that number counts as both Weapon and Spell Damage stats. if you drop all equipment except for your weapon, these values would align in your Character menu, unless you have some passive skill slotted that increases Weapon Damage.

To summarize, a 1335 damage weapon does not make your attacks deal 1335 damage ^^

I see that . But a level 15 character with no other characters crafting for him on his own with the skills he can aquire in 15 levels is not going to make that 1335 in to 50+ k in 1 hit. ANd that is my question.

Well, due to One Tamriel (patch a few months ago that made players scale to "top level" for overland content) a level 15 player gets a fair lot of statistical advantages. A level 15 new player with random looted gear isn't going to kill a boss in 6 seconds, a more experienced player without previously-crafted or looted gear I estimate could do 10 or 12 seconds, and a truly new player is a wild unpredictable variable.

To be absolutely frank with you, most crafted gear is not really good. Some sets are okay, but for many people crafting is just a way to hold gear slots while they collect looted things they want to use. The person who posted the video probably could have done it in 4 seconds with a good collection of looted gear, or maybe even 2 or 1 with a PvP-like stealth oriented gank build.

Thank you. I appreciate you giving me what I think its the actual story. Thats how I figured it was.. I am seriously glad I have a chance to level and get stronger and be faced with challenges till I eventually get to the point where i can do that 50k attack.

dbgager wrote: »

All my question is can I pick something up around Glenumbra and instantly be able to do a 50+k attack on something. I was called an idiot for questioning that and if that true, Then I apoligize. I just want to know from someone who is not obviously mad at me if its true. If its not true please stop giving me false information.

First of all, rewatch the video. I never hit anything for 50k. My hardest hit was just under 30k.

And no, you can't just put on a piece of gear and hit for 50k. As I've said for probably the dozenth time, GEAR IS ONLY ONE OF MANY FACTORS THAT DETERMINES DAMAGE.

See the bold italicized statement in all caps, OP? Read it a couple times. I don't mean to sound mean, but you've been told this multiple times, and you still keep asking the same question.

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

What did you do . Make that with a top skilled crafter and give it to your new guy. This was supposed to be a new character with a weapon picked up in Glenumbra. Give a guy a great weapon that does 5-10 times more damage than anything you could find around there and kills him before he can even get off one spell and of course its easyville. But that is not what was claimed. my entire debate was that the initial claim was not possible.

More infact i just looked at it closely . That thing is doing more than 30k damage a hit to him..even more infact cause it seems to have multiple effects..lol. Come on ..Jeez.... So don't act like you proved something to me. Thats not what was being talked about.

• dbgager wrote: »

  It took you 47 seconds. Like I said BS you did not kill him in 6 seconds. That was my only comment. And you just proved my point. Thank you. I asked for a video proving you killed him in 6 seconds and you provided a video proving you did not.

• dbgager wrote: »

  My comment is just stating what I see is everybody thinks this can be done in 6 seconds. I mean I would think you guys are veterans of the game. I have only played like a week. And I say its impossible.

• dbgager wrote: »

  Just nevermind. You guys will never admit I am right . It cannot be done in 6 seconds. I know I a m though. Have a good day...

• dbgager wrote: »

  When exactly did I say that would you like to point out where I dared people to fight the boss with low level toons. Good luck with that. Read the thread again..You don't even know what the debate was about . It was about defeating the boss in 6 seconds with any toon. Your just trying to find something to validate your comments. Well making stuff up doesn't work...Sorry. Anway the boss is beaten and your not going to beat it in 6 seconds.So your just rehashing. Its time for this thread to die...

The fact that you think you need to be a skilled crafter to make good crafted sets, or that crafted weapons do 5x more damage than dropped weapons, or are even better than dropped weapons, for that matter, is just your lack of experience showing. Some of the best sets in the game are overland dropped sets.

And now you're trying to say skills with multiple effects aren't allowed either? That just because you don't know how to do decent damage other new character shouldn't be able to either? How do you know that the other guy didn't find a good dropped set, and have a good dps rotation with all the proper buffs?

You're right, I may not have proved anything to you, but that's okay, because I have proved to anybody that will ever read this thread that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, nor do you have the willingness to actually learn what is going on.

And they all apply to the initial debate you don't have to repeat it word for word for it to be what you are debating.

Well if that 50k damage staff is available as a drop in Glenumbra get it. Thing is its not...Very doubtful anything like that is going to be dropped.

And then you try to come at me like am stating something that is not true when your the one trying to put one over on me. Stick to the challenge if you can do that I will admit I am wrong.

You barely did it with a 50k damge weapon..

I don't recommend continuing that discussion unless you want to be seen as a troll, a golden, same-level weapon offers 1335 weapon/spell damage.

And, just for some cheek, you imply that it was not done and then say that it was "barely" done in the next line.

And your point it what since the boss has like 70-80k Hitpoints..and where talking abouut a 6 second battle. I don't understand how 1335 equates to 80000 is 6 seconds. I am not trying to be snotty or anything . But explain please.

The 1335 is the damage value of the weapon itself, statistical points like Maximum Stamina or Weapon Damage. It's used in formulae to calculate the damage of all of your attacks, or rather that number counts as both Weapon and Spell Damage stats. if you drop all equipment except for your weapon, these values would align in your Character menu, unless you have some passive skill slotted that increases Weapon Damage.

To summarize, a 1335 damage weapon does not make your attacks deal 1335 damage ^^

I see that . But a level 15 character with no other characters crafting for him on his own with the skills he can aquire in 15 levels is not going to make that 1335 in to 50+ k in 1 hit. ANd that is my question.

The person who posted the video probably could have done it in 4 seconds with a good collection of looted gear, or maybe even 2 or 1 with a PvP-like stealth oriented gank build.

Yeah, I have no doubt that a well built gankblade could one-shot him.

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

@dbgager I'm not sure which platform you play on, but if you ever have any questions you can catch me through PMs here, @KochDerDamonen on PC NA, or DamonenKoch on PS4 NA ^^

thank you..I play on PC.

dbgager wrote: »

And colors that thing had multiple effect I am counting it all together . It had 1 attack that did very close to 30k and then a seperate attack that did 4 times about 4.5K and it might even have had a 3rd attack I did not watch it long enough. Those are all going to proc off 1 attack with it. Or did I see it wrong. You either killed the boss off 1 single attack or 2 I am not sure.

That would be boring to me. I'm sorry. . My 3 year old nephew could do that. I would lose interest in playing if all my fights including bosses where like that.

In that clip I see: Light attack, Velocious Curse, light attack, force shock, light attack, crystal fragments, mage's wrath, force shock

Much more than 2 attacks, and it involves "weaving". Weaving, for us, is the use of weapon attacks (left click) to get bit of damage in between spell animations.

I however had a much more diffcult fight with a 5k lethal bow shot that you can only fire about every 2 seconds because of the animation ..and arrow spray or whatever it is called to try and limit the adds in front of me and scampering all over the place to avoid red circles and trying to get to a yellow circles when it appeared to avoid a 22k damage boss spell. Lasted about a minute ..maybe even 2 minutes. I am happy to say I did finally did do it. I found if difficult and I am a little proud of myself for finally doing it with an Archer Build.

lion9225nub18_ESO wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

cpuScientist wrote: »

Stovahkiin wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

.I think its been so long since you guys did these fights you don't remember them. And you have not done them since 1T. I suggest your try them again..Then maybe you will see what I am referring to..

The quest boss fights in this game are a piece of cake. Either you're new or you're spamming light bow attacks, hoping it will be enough.

Man bow bashes are enough IMO

No actually I am using Lethal Arrow, Endless Hail, Scatter Shot, Arrow Spray, and Soul Siphon. I hardly ever just fire a fast shot unless an enemy has just a sliver of health left. The boss is getting mostly Lethal Arrow. But your not understanding. The battle is not survivable regardless of how much damage you can do if you don't follow the exact procedure to avoid the Bosses lethal attacks. If you just stand there and attack I don't care who you are your going to die. The Boss will be buffed up to your level by 1T.

So you're complaining that you can't just stand there and take its hardest attacks? Seriously? If you don't want any challenge at all then it sounds like you need to go play minecraft or something. This seriously sounds like a troll thread

Did I say I just stand there. I am running around like a madman trying to get to lit up circles..avoiding red circles and trying to deal with half a dozen adds. WHile still trying to attack once in awhile. I am just saying if you do you will live about 10 seconds regardless who you are. I suggest you try the fight. You don't seem to be familiar with it.ANd I mean that sincerelly you don't. Then comment on it. The only one trying to put people down is you. SO don't be calling people trolls. I am just complaining about something that frustrates me. This is the end boss to the entire area. The entire areas quest line leads to this guy.

If you are having trouble beating a boss it is likely your armor is not up to par, or you need to eat food, upgrade your weapon, bring potions. I have recently started playing and have tried 3 different character/class types in the past week and never has a boss killed me more than 1 time, and that was generally due to a mistake or just being "cocky" Armor, weapons, skills and player skill all factor in to any fight.

My reflexes are not great... and i am using mouse/ keyboard. I don't do well with reaction / arcade like challenges. The Boss I am talking about if you put out damage that is normal for anew character at this level ( around 15 ) will obliterate you in 1 hit ( 22k attack ). If you are not in the safety zones. He also does a 4K damage spell that he spams at you and releases at least 5-6 adds that do about 1.5 damage a hit to you.

Have you fought Angof in Glenumbra yet. He is the end boss for the area. I am sure you will do better than me beacuse it took me about a dozen tries. Just curious.

Thanks for the advice to..I do usually do a lot of that stuff. I appreciate the help though.

dbgager wrote: »

And colors that thing had multiple effect I am counting it all together . It had 1 attack that did very close to 30k and then a seperate attack that did 4 times abouut 4.5K and it might even have had a 3rd attack I did not watch it long enough. Those are all going to proc off 1 attack with it. Or did I see it wrong.

There are a couple things you're probably seeing here:

1. Light attack weaving- This is a bit of a more complicated technique than you need to worry about right now, but basically it allows you to use a light or heavy attack at nearly the same time as you cast a skill. Most of the skills I cast had a light or heavy attack weaved in, which accounts for some of the extra sources of damage.
2. Force Pulse- This skill deals x fire damage, x lighting damage, and x frost damage. Even though it boils down to one skill doing x amount of damage, it still shows the three different types of damage separately.
3. Mages Fury- Deals x amount of damage, and then additional damage when the enemy falls below 20% health.

What I believe you're referring to is Force Pulse with a heavy attack weaved in. You see 3 damage values around 4.5k from the fire, lightning, and frost damage, then a fourth damage value from the heavy attack.

There is also a point where a damage value of around 22k goes off, plus a damage value of around 6k. That is from Mages Fury, with the 6k being the initial damage of the ability, and the 22k being the additional damage from the enemy falling below 20% health.

On the bottom right of my screen there is a box that shows all sources of outgoing damage. You might need to pause the video, but you can follow along to see exactly which attacks I used.

The exact order of skills I used are: Heavy Attack-->Daedric Curse (which doesn't show up since it doesn't do damage for six seconds)-->Heavy Attack-->Force Pulse-->Heavy Attack-->Force Pulse-->Crystal Fragments-->Mages Wrath-->Force Pulse.

Nothing involving the weapon or any gear I had provided extra attacks. They were all either skills which show multiple sources of damage, or light/heavy attack weaving.

dbgager wrote: »

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

And colors that thing had multiple effect I am counting it all together . It had 1 attack that did very close to 30k and then a seperate attack that did 4 times abouut 4.5K and it might even have had a 3rd attack I did not watch it long enough. Those are all going to proc off 1 attack with it. Or did I see it wrong.

There are a couple things you're probably seeing here:

1. Light attack weaving- This is a bit of a more complicated technique than you need to worry about right now, but basically it allows you to use a light or heavy attack at nearly the same time as you cast a skill. Most of the skills I cast had a light or heavy attack weaved in, which accounts for some of the extra sources of damage.
2. Force Pulse- This skill deals x fire damage, x lighting damage, and x frost damage. Even though it boils down to one skill doing x amount of damage, it still shows the three different types of damage separately.
3. Mages Fury- Deals x amount of damage, and then additional damage when the enemy falls below 20% health.

What I believe you're referring to is Force Pulse with a heavy attack weaved in. You see 3 damage values around 4.5k from the fire, lightning, and frost damage, then a fourth damage value from the heavy attack.

There is also a point where a damage value of around 22k goes off, plus a damage value of around 6k. That is from Mages Fury, with the 6k being the initial damage of the ability, and the 22k being the additional damage from the enemy falling below 20% health.

On the bottom right of my screen there is a box that shows all sources of outgoing damage. You might need to pause the video, but you can follow along to see exactly which attacks I used.

The exact order of skills I used are: Heavy Attack-->Daedric Curse (which doesn't show up since it doesn't do damage for six seconds)-->Heavy Attack-->Force Pulse-->Heavy Attack-->Force Pulse-->Crystal Fragments-->Mages Wrath-->Force Pulse.

Nothing involving the weapon or any gear I had provided extra attacks. They were all either skills which show multiple sources of damage, or light/heavy attack weaving.

But the point is they where all skills crafted into your weapon. Not something you where casting on your own through your own skills. Its fine that you can make stuff like that. Thats great. But I am not going to be making anything like that for a long time and that is fine with me. Progression and something to look forward to is the only reason I am playing the game. If I am everything I can ever be right from the start. What the point of playing. I want to start small and build myself up to that 1 man wrecking crew. At that point I will probably stop playing that character and start a new one.

The fun for me is in the journey...not the destination.

@dbgager none of the things listed there are coming from the gear, at most there is a weapon enchantment that occasionally does a couple thousand damage on a light attack. Force Pulse is a spell in the destruction staff tree, Crystal Fragments and Mage's Wrath are Sorcerer spells.

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And colors that thing had multiple effect I am counting it all together . It had 1 attack that did very close to 30k and then a seperate attack that did 4 times abouut 4.5K and it might even have had a 3rd attack I did not watch it long enough. Those are all going to proc off 1 attack with it. Or did I see it wrong.

There are a couple things you're probably seeing here:

1. Light attack weaving- This is a bit of a more complicated technique than you need to worry about right now, but basically it allows you to use a light or heavy attack at nearly the same time as you cast a skill. Most of the skills I cast had a light or heavy attack weaved in, which accounts for some of the extra sources of damage.
2. Force Pulse- This skill deals x fire damage, x lighting damage, and x frost damage. Even though it boils down to one skill doing x amount of damage, it still shows the three different types of damage separately.
3. Mages Fury- Deals x amount of damage, and then additional damage when the enemy falls below 20% health.

What I believe you're referring to is Force Pulse with a heavy attack weaved in. You see 3 damage values around 4.5k from the fire, lightning, and frost damage, then a fourth damage value from the heavy attack.

There is also a point where a damage value of around 22k goes off, plus a damage value of around 6k. That is from Mages Fury, with the 6k being the initial damage of the ability, and the 22k being the additional damage from the enemy falling below 20% health.

On the bottom right of my screen there is a box that shows all sources of outgoing damage. You might need to pause the video, but you can follow along to see exactly which attacks I used.

The exact order of skills I used are: Heavy Attack-->Daedric Curse (which doesn't show up since it doesn't do damage for six seconds)-->Heavy Attack-->Force Pulse-->Heavy Attack-->Force Pulse-->Crystal Fragments-->Mages Wrath-->Force Pulse.

Nothing involving the weapon or any gear I had provided extra attacks. They were all either skills which show multiple sources of damage, or light/heavy attack weaving.

But the point is they where all skills crafted into your weapon. Not something you where casting on your own through your own skills. Its fine that you can make stuff like that. Thats great. But I am not going to be making anything like that for a long time and that is fine with me. Progression and something to look forward to is the only reason I am playing the game. If I am everything I can ever be right from the start. What the point of playing. I want to start small and build myself up to that 1 man wrecking crew. At that point I will probably stop playing that character and start a new one.

The fun for me is in the journey...not the destination.

You are completely wrong. Every single one of those is something I casted myself... Every single skill you saw casted resulted from me, in real life, pressing a button on my mouse. They are all skills that every single sorcerer has access to inherently. Crafting skills into weapons isn't a thing in this game.

@hedna123b14_ESO thanks for the gift man! I really appreciate it!

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ColoursYouHave wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

ColoursYouHave wrote: »

dbgager wrote: »

And colors that thing had multiple effect I am counting it all together . It had 1 attack that did very close to 30k and then a seperate attack that did 4 times abouut 4.5K and it might even have had a 3rd attack I did not watch it long enough. Those are all going to proc off 1 attack with it. Or did I see it wrong.

There are a couple things you're probably seeing here:

1. Light attack weaving- This is a bit of a more complicated technique than you need to worry about right now, but basically it allows you to use a light or heavy attack at nearly the same time as you cast a skill. Most of the skills I cast had a light or heavy attack weaved in, which accounts for some of the extra sources of damage.
2. Force Pulse- This skill deals x fire damage, x lighting damage, and x frost damage. Even though it boils down to one skill doing x amount of damage, it still shows the three different types of damage separately.
3. Mages Fury- Deals x amount of damage, and then additional damage when the enemy falls below 20% health.

What I believe you're referring to is Force Pulse with a heavy attack weaved in. You see 3 damage values around 4.5k from the fire, lightning, and frost damage, then a fourth damage value from the heavy attack.

There is also a point where a damage value of around 22k goes off, plus a damage value of around 6k. That is from Mages Fury, with the 6k being the initial damage of the ability, and the 22k being the additional damage from the enemy falling below 20% health.

On the bottom right of my screen there is a box that shows all sources of outgoing damage. You might need to pause the video, but you can follow along to see exactly which attacks I used.

The exact order of skills I used are: Heavy Attack-->Daedric Curse (which doesn't show up since it doesn't do damage for six seconds)-->Heavy Attack-->Force Pulse-->Heavy Attack-->Force Pulse-->Crystal Fragments-->Mages Wrath-->Force Pulse.

Nothing involving the weapon or any gear I had provided extra attacks. They were all either skills which show multiple sources of damage, or light/heavy attack weaving.

But the point is they where all skills crafted into your weapon. Not something you where casting on your own through your own skills. Its fine that you can make stuff like that. Thats great. But I am not going to be making anything like that for a long time and that is fine with me. Progression and something to look forward to is the only reason I am playing the game. If I am everything I can ever be right from the start. What the point of playing. I want to start small and build myself up to that 1 man wrecking crew. At that point I will probably stop playing that character and start a new one.

The fun for me is in the journey...not the destination.

You are completely wrong. Every single one of those is something I casted myself... Every single skill you saw casted resulted from me, in real life, pressing a button on my mouse. They are all skills that every single sorcerer has access to inherently. Crafting skills into weapons isn't a thing in this game.

@hedna123b14_ESO thanks for the gift man! I really appreciate it!

Fine I understand that now. But then if your crafted weapon had nothing to do with those damages why did not you simply grab a basic weapon out of your inventory and do it again. And I would have said your right. That would not work though would it because your weapon infact provides that very important base number that makes the most difference of any number doesn't it. Your weapon has alot to do with those damages infact its the number that everything multiplies off of.

Like I said earlier take a base of 40 and a base of 50 multiply them by a million. Even thought the base is only 10 apart the results are 10 million apart..

A level 10 crafted weapon has the same damage as a level 10 picked up weapon...you are again clueless...