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Very much like most of the game. Boss fights however are not one of them. They are nothing but hectic chaos which you must do exactly right or you will die. Run to the light. dodge when the movement system in the game is kind of clunky and so is the camera..For example Angof does a 22k damage on an unavoidable attack that you must run to a light circle surrounded by adds under an attacking root you can't avoid that will all damage you and kill you anyway. The boss fights are arcade unlike the rest of the game that has an MMORPG style. Sure I will get blasted for these comments. Never the less that is my opinion. After losing to this guy a dozen times I am not happy with the game. Boss fight are supposed to be epic.. With big Groups required to take them down. These just feel like a bad arcade game.
Edited by dbgager on February 18, 2017 4:02PM
  • Voxicity
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    I take it you haven't come across a world boss, ran a vet dungeon or trial/arena :D
  • dbgager
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    You don't do Vet dungeons when you first start playing the game.
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    dbgager wrote: »
    You don't do Vet dungeons when you first start playing the game.

    But you come across world bosses when exploring the maps.
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    Sounds like a l2p issue
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  • CaptainVenom
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    If you are having a hard time fighting quest bosses... well, you won't want to fight a world boss or veteran dungeon final bosses.
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    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    Sounds like a l2p issue

    Definitely :D
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    dbgager wrote: »
    Boss fight are supposed to be epic.. With big Groups required to take them down.
    But they are already epic and also have epic soundtracks. In general they are designed for groups but then someone goes for tchem alone, dies a lot and bring his complaints to forum. If you'd fight the group boss with tank, dps and healer, there would be no problem. This game's group content is based on the roles just like any other mmo. I didn't find boss fight arcade. If you are good enough, have a good sets and use proper rotation you can even stand stupid on red and won't die easily. This game's mechanics is brilliant and it also refers to the bosses.
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  • dbgager
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    Gargath wrote: »
    dbgager wrote: »
    Boss fight are supposed to be epic.. With big Groups required to take them down.
    But they are already epic and also have epic soundtracks. In general they are designed for groups but then someone goes for tchem alone, dies a lot and bring his complaints to forum. If you'd fight the group boss with tank, dps and healer, there would be no problem. This game's group content is based on the roles just like any other mmo. I didn't find boss fight arcade. If you are good enough, have a good sets and use proper rotation you can even stand stupid on red and won't die easily. This game's mechanics is brilliant and it also refers to the bosses.

    You don't sound like you have even played the game actually or know what the heck I am talking about to tell you the truth. Rotation and good sets. Did you read my post.
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    dbgager wrote: »
    Gargath wrote: »
    dbgager wrote: »
    Boss fight are supposed to be epic.. With big Groups required to take them down.
    But they are already epic and also have epic soundtracks. In general they are designed for groups but then someone goes for tchem alone, dies a lot and bring his complaints to forum. If you'd fight the group boss with tank, dps and healer, there would be no problem. This game's group content is based on the roles just like any other mmo. I didn't find boss fight arcade. If you are good enough, have a good sets and use proper rotation you can even stand stupid on red and won't die easily. This game's mechanics is brilliant and it also refers to the bosses.

    You don't sound like you have even played the game actually or know what the heck I am talking about to tell you the truth. Rotation and good sets. Did you read my post.

    I think you are the one who sounds like you haven't played the game... at least as far as the tutorial :p
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    Angoff? I take it you didn't pay attention to the dialogue? Draw him into the fire and he goes down like a two bit hooker. It's not even a fight.
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    Listen to the npcs, I'm about the worst game player you will ever meet but they are right, this one is a total turkey shoot
  • dbgager
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    Kodrac wrote: »
    Angoff? I take it you didn't pay attention to the dialogue? Draw him into the fire and he goes down like a two bit hooker. It's not even a fight.

    Your talking about a totally different boss. That is not the end boss for Glenumbra...Angof. That is his servent whom I forget his game. So no. There is no fire...The guy stands in one place and does not move.
    Edited by dbgager on February 18, 2017 6:14PM
  • dbgager
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    .I think its been so long since you guys did these fights you don't remember them. And you have not done them since 1T. I suggest your try them again..Then maybe you will see what I am referring to..
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    Nothing makes a difference in the fight but doing exactly what the fight requires at exactly the right time. Rotation, equipment set, even skills for that matter are not what win it for you . The only thing that matters is positioning and hand eye coordination. Thats why i said its arcadey. And it is hectic because you only have like a second or 2 at the most to do these things. Plus the guy spams adds. And it is also a single player instance. I imagine at some point maybe I will get past it and my frustration level will go down. If veteran group bosses are like this why even have any skills. They don't count for anything in this kind of battle.
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    dbgager wrote: »
    .I think its been so long since you guys did these fights you don't remember them. And you have not done them since 1T. I suggest your try them again..Then maybe you will see what I am referring to..

    The quest boss fights in this game are a piece of cake. Either you're new or you're spamming light bow attacks, hoping it will be enough.
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    dbgager wrote: »
    Nothing makes a difference in the fight but doing exactly what the fight requires at exactly the right time. Rotation, equipment set, even skills for that matter are not what win it for you . The only thing that matters is positioning and hand eye coordination. Thats why i said its arcadey. And it is hectic because you only have like a second or 2 at the most to do these things. Plus the guy spams adds. And it is also a single player instance. I imagine at some point maybe I will get past it and my frustration level will go down. If veteran group bosses are like this why even have any skills. They don't count for anything in this kind of battle.

    Please get good... that is all
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    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    dbgager wrote: »
    .I think its been so long since you guys did these fights you don't remember them. And you have not done them since 1T. I suggest your try them again..Then maybe you will see what I am referring to..

    The quest boss fights in this game are a piece of cake. Either you're new or you're spamming light bow attacks, hoping it will be enough.

    Man bow bashes are enough IMO
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    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    dbgager wrote: »
    .I think its been so long since you guys did these fights you don't remember them. And you have not done them since 1T. I suggest your try them again..Then maybe you will see what I am referring to..

    The quest boss fights in this game are a piece of cake. Either you're new or you're spamming light bow attacks, hoping it will be enough.

    Man bow bashes are enough IMO

    No actually I am using Lethal Arrow, Endless Hail, Scatter Shot, Arrow Spray, and Soul Siphon. I hardly ever just fire a fast shot unless an enemy has just a sliver of health left. The boss is getting mostly Lethal Arrow. But your not understanding. The battle is not survivable regardless of how much damage you can do if you don't follow the exact procedure to avoid the Bosses lethal attacks. If you just stand there and attack I don't care who you are your going to die. The Boss will be buffed up to your level by 1T.
    Edited by dbgager on February 18, 2017 6:46PM
  • dbgager
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    I am convinced at this point you guys have not even fought this quest boss in several years. When was the last time you fought this battle.
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    dbgager wrote: »
    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    dbgager wrote: »
    .I think its been so long since you guys did these fights you don't remember them. And you have not done them since 1T. I suggest your try them again..Then maybe you will see what I am referring to..

    The quest boss fights in this game are a piece of cake. Either you're new or you're spamming light bow attacks, hoping it will be enough.

    Man bow bashes are enough IMO

    No actually I am using Lethal Arrow, Endless Hail, Scatter Shot, Arrow Spray, and Soul Siphon. I hardly ever just fire a fast shot unless an enemy has just a sliver of health left. The boss is getting mostly Lethal Arrow. But your not understanding. The battle is not survivable regardless of how much damage you can do if you don't follow the exact procedure to avoid the Bosses lethal attacks. If you just stand there and attack I don't care who you are your going to die. The Boss will be buffed up to your level by 1T.

    So you're complaining that you can't just stand there and take its hardest attacks? Seriously? If you don't want any challenge at all then it sounds like you need to go play minecraft or something. This seriously sounds like a troll thread
    Edited by Stovahkiin on February 18, 2017 6:50PM
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    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    dbgager wrote: »
    .I think its been so long since you guys did these fights you don't remember them. And you have not done them since 1T. I suggest your try them again..Then maybe you will see what I am referring to..

    The quest boss fights in this game are a piece of cake. Either you're new or you're spamming light bow attacks, hoping it will be enough.

    Try the battle now. Since the boss requires going completelly through the Glenumbra quest line . Probably at least 30-40 quests . You probably have not even fought this battle in several years. Certainly not since 1T was released. When was the last time you fought Angof or have you ever fought him.
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    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    dbgager wrote: »
    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    dbgager wrote: »
    .I think its been so long since you guys did these fights you don't remember them. And you have not done them since 1T. I suggest your try them again..Then maybe you will see what I am referring to..

    The quest boss fights in this game are a piece of cake. Either you're new or you're spamming light bow attacks, hoping it will be enough.

    Man bow bashes are enough IMO

    No actually I am using Lethal Arrow, Endless Hail, Scatter Shot, Arrow Spray, and Soul Siphon. I hardly ever just fire a fast shot unless an enemy has just a sliver of health left. The boss is getting mostly Lethal Arrow. But your not understanding. The battle is not survivable regardless of how much damage you can do if you don't follow the exact procedure to avoid the Bosses lethal attacks. If you just stand there and attack I don't care who you are your going to die. The Boss will be buffed up to your level by 1T.

    So you're complaining that you can't just stand there and take its hardest attacks? Seriously? If you don't want any challenge at all then it sounds like you need to go play minecraft or something. This seriously sounds like a troll thread

    Did I say I just stand there. I am running around like a madman trying to get to lit up circles..avoiding red circles and trying to deal with half a dozen adds. WHile still trying to attack once in awhile. I am just saying if you do you will live about 10 seconds regardless who you are. I suggest you try the fight. You don't seem to be familiar with it.ANd I mean that sincerelly you don't. Then comment on it. The only one trying to put people down is you. SO don't be calling people trolls. I am just complaining about something that frustrates me. This is the end boss to the entire area. The entire areas quest line leads to this guy.
    Edited by dbgager on February 18, 2017 7:04PM
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    dbgager wrote: »
    Very much like most of the game. Boss fights however are not one of them. They are nothing but hectic chaos which you must do exactly right or you will die. Run to the light. dodge when the movement system in the game is kind of clunky and so is the camera..For example Angof does a 22k damage on an unavoidable attack that you must run to a light circle surrounded by adds under an attacking root you can't avoid that will all damage you and kill you anyway. The boss fights are arcade unlike the rest of the game that has an MMORPG style. Sure I will get blasted for these comments. Never the less that is my opinion. After losing to this guy a dozen times I am not happy with the game. Boss fight are supposed to be epic.. With big Groups required to take them down. These just feel like a bad arcade game.

    You say boss fights are supposed to be epic with big groups required to take them down yet you complain that a boss is to tough for you.

    It could be your approaching the fight improperly. That is the first thing I would suggest looking at. Maybe you are focused to much on killing the boss and not killing the adds which seem to be one problem you mention.
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    dbgager wrote: »
    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    dbgager wrote: »
    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    dbgager wrote: »
    .I think its been so long since you guys did these fights you don't remember them. And you have not done them since 1T. I suggest your try them again..Then maybe you will see what I am referring to..

    The quest boss fights in this game are a piece of cake. Either you're new or you're spamming light bow attacks, hoping it will be enough.

    Man bow bashes are enough IMO

    No actually I am using Lethal Arrow, Endless Hail, Scatter Shot, Arrow Spray, and Soul Siphon. I hardly ever just fire a fast shot unless an enemy has just a sliver of health left. The boss is getting mostly Lethal Arrow. But your not understanding. The battle is not survivable regardless of how much damage you can do if you don't follow the exact procedure to avoid the Bosses lethal attacks. If you just stand there and attack I don't care who you are your going to die. The Boss will be buffed up to your level by 1T.

    So you're complaining that you can't just stand there and take its hardest attacks? Seriously? If you don't want any challenge at all then it sounds like you need to go play minecraft or something. This seriously sounds like a troll thread

    Did I say I just stand there.

    dbgager wrote: »
    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    dbgager wrote: »
    .I think its been so long since you guys did these fights you don't remember them. And you have not done them since 1T. I suggest your try them again..Then maybe you will see what I am referring to..

    The quest boss fights in this game are a piece of cake. Either you're new or you're spamming light bow attacks, hoping it will be enough.

    Man bow bashes are enough IMO

    if you just stand there and attack I don't care who you are your going to die. The Boss will be buffed up to your level by 1T.

    You kinda did, hence my comment
    Edited by Stovahkiin on February 18, 2017 7:04PM
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    dbgager wrote: »
    Kodrac wrote: »
    Angoff? I take it you didn't pay attention to the dialogue? Draw him into the fire and he goes down like a two bit hooker. It's not even a fight.

    Your talking about a totally different boss. That is not the end boss for Glenumbra...Angof. That is his servent whom I forget his game. So no. There is no fire...The guy stands in one place and does not move.

    So perhaps if you were more specific, because the battle you describe in your first thread certainly sounds like the "Angof the Gravesinger" quest. If this is not correct, then be more specific about exactly which quest this is. Because there are TWO quests involving Angof, one is the Glenumbra quest and the other is the Coldharbour quest, which in that case you don't fight Angof directly.

    Either way, you should tell us what your CP is, what gear your wearing, your loadout, etc. Because I have yet to come across any boss battle that is not super easy. Some may require a lot of moving around, but are definitely not problematic. Second, it sounds like you are just spamming Lethal Arrow, which btw is the worst of the morphs; even so, because of the channel time, unless you are good with animation canceling and medium weaving, Snipe is the worst skill to use in a boss battle because of the channel time.
    Edited by ADarklore on February 18, 2017 7:07PM
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    If you are fighting the boss under the big tree and the nature spirits have protective circles.... you roll dodge into the protective circle. He gives a lot of warning and this is meant to train up your roll dodge reflex.
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    ADarklore wrote: »
    dbgager wrote: »
    Kodrac wrote: »
    Angoff? I take it you didn't pay attention to the dialogue? Draw him into the fire and he goes down like a two bit hooker. It's not even a fight.

    Your talking about a totally different boss. That is not the end boss for Glenumbra...Angof. That is his servent whom I forget his game. So no. There is no fire...The guy stands in one place and does not move.

    So perhaps if you were more specific, because the battle you describe in your first thread certainly sounds like the "Angof the Gravesinger" quest. If this is not correct, then be more specific about exactly which quest this is. Because there are TWO quests involving Angof, one is the Glenumbra quest and the other is the Coldharbour quest, which in that case you don't fight Angof directly.

    Either way, you should tell us what your CP is, what gear your wearing, your loadout, etc. Because I have yet to come across any boss battle that is not super easy. Some may require a lot of moving around, but are definitely not problematic. Second, it sounds like you are just spamming Lethal Arrow, which btw is the worst of the morphs; even so, because of the channel time, unless you are good with animation canceling and medium weaving, Snipe is the worst skill to use in a boss battle because of the channel time.

    I was very specific. Angof the Graveslinger is in his Inner Sanctum in the middle of Cath Betraud. There is no fire involved or any around in that fight. . He is the end boss to the area. And that is exactly the boss I am talking about. The Boss that required the fire to defeat. In fact there was a whole bunch of quests that involved finding that out was Faolchu. You are confused.

    And obviously you have not done this in years either..Its different now since 1T.
    Edited by dbgager on February 18, 2017 7:22PM
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    Man being a newbie in this game sucks. I can't believe the replies that the OP is getting for talking about a difficult boss fight he's having. I'M willing to bet he's right about you guys not having done any of these newbie boss fight in a long time. He could be right about them having changed since any of you have done them. And all you guys can do is rag on him. Player base seems to be getting more pathetic as the game gets more popular.
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    Castagere wrote: »
    Man being a newbie in this game sucks. I can't believe the replies that the OP is getting for talking about a difficult boss fight he's having. I'M willing to bet he's right about you guys not having done any of these newbie boss fight in a long time. He could be right about them having changed since any of you have done them. And all you guys can do is rag on him. Player base seems to be getting more pathetic as the game gets more popular.

    @Castagere

    I have done every fight in the game. While my advice was more general and not specific about the fight he was in, new players must learn to pay attention and figure out the mechanics.

    I expect some of the complaints may be harsh, but consider OP did not come in here to find out how to do that fight properly, he came in here to rage and rant and people respond kinda negative to a negative thread.
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    Castagere wrote: »
    Man being a newbie in this game sucks. I can't believe the replies that the OP is getting for talking about a difficult boss fight he's having. I'M willing to bet he's right about you guys not having done any of these newbie boss fight in a long time. He could be right about them having changed since any of you have done them. And all you guys can do is rag on him. Player base seems to be getting more pathetic as the game gets more popular.

    Or maybe people respond like this because the game has been getting easier and easier. People are more inclined to give helpful responses if you ask for help or advice, instead of just basically saying that it's impossible and that the mechanics need to be nerfed so that people can beat it without having to dodge certain attacks
    Edited by Stovahkiin on February 18, 2017 7:48PM
    Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!
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