Debating Restarting... Bad Idea?

MethTheMadman · February 2017

I have a level 18 Magplar who I'm having a decent time with... I've got some skill lines up in the 20s and I've been working on crafting with him... But as good as his survival is... He's kind of boring.

Was thinking of starting a Stam Sorc or a Stam Blade...

My issue is I have a goal of being level 50 and CP160 by June 6th. I play 3-5x/week for 1-2 hrs/session.

Am I handicapping my goal by restarting? I still have to finish the story lines... So I won't be grinding...

Starting to think the best course of action is sucking it up and getting my Templar to 50/160.

max_only · February 2017

As an alt-aholic, I can't advise you.

AriokoSan · February 2017

I love my magplar. I've biting jabs my way through nearly all the content in the game with him

MethTheMadman · February 2017

AriokoSan wrote: »

I love my magplar. I've biting jabs my way through nearly all the content in the game with him

And that's why it's hard for me to just switch. I just feel bored... and I can't help but think you shouldn't feel bored when you're playing a game haha

Tandor · February 2017

Your goal is unnecessary, given that Morrowind comes with a new class and a new starting base to the game, with no reason at all to need a cp160 to benefit from it all. Besides, like any other MMO if not more so, the game is best enjoyed if you focus on the journey rather than panicking about rushing to the destination.

It sounds to me like you could more usefully try out a variety of characters before trying a warden in June. If you insist on only playing a single character thereafter then you can choose at that point which to progress, but there's no reason to limit yourself in that way. Just have fun playing the game, leave timetables and deadlines for the day job!

AriokoSan · February 2017

MethTheMadman wrote: »

AriokoSan wrote: »

I love my magplar. I've biting jabs my way through nearly all the content in the game with him

And that's why it's hard for me to just switch. I just feel bored... and I can't help but think you shouldn't feel bored when you're playing a game haha

Agreed. You don't wanna be bored. I think maybe you answered your own question. This game is great and if your bored on your character, start a new one. Night blades are fun

Jim_Pipp · February 2017

MethTheMadman wrote: »

AriokoSan wrote: »

I love my magplar. I've biting jabs my way through nearly all the content in the game with him

And that's why it's hard for me to just switch. I just feel bored... and I can't help but think you shouldn't feel bored when you're playing a game haha

If you can cope with the boredom you can easily grind to your goal of 50/160 by june. You could probably get there in a couple of weeks.

I don't recomend it though. Start a new character so you can do research and train horses on both (one day you may want multiple characters!). Try something new, play a new faction and enjoy the game. In April there will be a double experience event, so you can power level to wherever you want during that.

danno8 · February 2017

Restart of you don't care for the class. Level 18 is a 2 or 3 hour investment. No big loss.

BlackSparrow · February 2017

danno8 wrote: »

Restart of you don't care for the class. Level 18 is a 2 or 3 hour investment. No big loss.

Not for new players, it isn't. For someone who's learning the game, listening to (or at least reading) dialogue, and exploring the map instead of rushing from quest marker to quest marker, 18 is a great deal longer than 2-3 hours.

Which, imo, I have to agree with @Tandor that that is the best way to play the game. There is no reason at all to rush your first character. This game is really much more fun if you kick back and enjoy the journey instead of focusing on the destination.

Alpheu5 · February 2017

BlackSparrow wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Restart of you don't care for the class. Level 18 is a 2 or 3 hour investment. No big loss.

Not for new players, it isn't. For someone who's learning the game, listening to (or at least reading) dialogue, and exploring the map instead of rushing from quest marker to quest marker, 18 is a great deal longer than 2-3 hours.

Which, imo, I have to agree with @Tandor that that is the best way to play the game. There is no reason at all to rush your first character. This game is really much more fun if you kick back and enjoy the journey instead of focusing on the destination.

My first playthrough, I didn't reach level 18 until maybe the third day, and only because of the Fungal Grotto crab grind which I did from 16 to 21. It really is better to take your time and learn things through than race to the finish, because if you reach the end too fast you'll just be a high-level noob.

MethTheMadman · February 2017

Make no mistake. I'm in no hurry to rush. Which is why I'm curious if starting a new character would "make me" rush.

Not sure if I'm going to or not but I really do appreciate the responses!!

AnnieBeGood · February 2017

Magica templar get better and better as they progress.....

Remag_Div · February 2017

It's not a bad idea, do whatever you want. I guess it's only bad if you restart like 20 times in a row and never get past level 20. lol

Lord Xanhorn · February 2017

It really depends on what you are doing on your Templar. If you aren't enjoying the playstyle, try a different weapon. My favorite way to level is a battlemage melee build. Casting Dark Flare, Reflective light then charging in with a 2 hander and meleeing down with brawler and puncturing sweeps. Sure its not min max but its a bunch of fun.

MethTheMadman · February 2017

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

It really depends on what you are doing on your Templar. If you aren't enjoying the playstyle, try a different weapon. My favorite way to level is a battlemage melee build. Casting Dark Flare, Reflective light then charging in with a 2 hander and meleeing down with brawler and puncturing sweeps. Sure its not min max but its a bunch of fun.

This is actually a great point. Been playing a mostly heavy/medium armor style with dual wield. I like the dw for sure... I have destro on the back bar.

Kinda thinking I should switch it up to light armor and really take advantage of the DPS increase. Only down side is I MIGHT have to move once in awhile hahaha

OtarTheMad · February 2017

I am also an alt-aholic so my opinion is obvious.

I don't think it hurts to have more than one character, try all classes and see which one you like the most and then stick with it. Try stam, try magicka, tank, dps, heal, support etc.

But this is coming from someone who is excited about Morrowind chapter for the Warden class and two more character slots purchasable soooo... yeah.

MethTheMadman · February 2017

OtarTheMad wrote: »

I am also an alt-aholic so my opinion is obvious.

I don't think it hurts to have more than one character, try all classes and see which one you like the most and then stick with it. Try stam, try magicka, tank, dps, heal, support etc.

But this is coming from someone who is excited about Morrowind chapter for the Warden class and two more character slots purchasable soooo... yeah.

I think I've already decided I'm going to make a warden who will wind up being a tank come Morrowind. That's part of the reason I want the cp160. Speed up the process a little while still being able to enjoy the content.

silky_soft · February 2017

Wait for Morrowind. New class will be super op for at least 3 months in order to sell boxes.

austinwalter87ub17_ESO · February 2017

Templars are probably the best starter class for any new player.

In the short-term, i would tell you to play a different class because having fun is the most important aspect of any game.

In the long-term, i'd tell you to stick with your Magplar. They're easy to play, they have good survivability, and you can always switch some gear around to play as a Healer for harder content. In the long term, this is beneficial for acquiring things you need to craft, gold, and more.

Everything gets more interesting after level 30. You start to have a lot more options in terms of beginner skills and experimentation.

Aletheion · February 2017

MethTheMadman wrote: »

This is actually a great point. Been playing a mostly heavy/medium armor style with dual wield. I like the dw for sure... I have destro on the back bar.

Kinda thinking I should switch it up to light armor and really take advantage of the DPS increase. Only down side is I MIGHT have to move once in awhile hahaha

That could contribute to the boredom. If you can face tank everything, then it's just a game of kill with no risk. Although it's true that the game has suffered serious nerfs making combat much less dangerous, there is fun in the danger. It's more exciting gameplay when you make the kill and barely survive. If you just stand there and swing til the fight is over, that's not much fun (IMO).

Re-roll, go light (or medium if you're doing stam), pull larger mobs when fighting and increase the intensity of your combat while you learn the game and explore.

My $.02

-Aletheion

phaneub17_ESO · February 2017

MethTheMadman wrote: »

I have a level 18 Magplar who I'm having a decent time with... I've got some skill lines up in the 20s and I've been working on crafting with him... But as good as his survival is... He's kind of boring.

Was thinking of starting a Stam Sorc or a Stam Blade...

My issue is I have a goal of being level 50 and CP160 by June 6th. I play 3-5x/week for 1-2 hrs/session.

Am I handicapping my goal by restarting? I still have to finish the story lines... So I won't be grinding...

Starting to think the best course of action is sucking it up and getting my Templar to 50/160.

I have 3 Templars, 2 Dragon Knights, 2 Sorcerers, and 1 Nightblade at max level. Starting over is all altaholics do, we just don't delete or give up on a character entirely. Aside from their daily crafting and mail, I don't play them every day its whoever I feel like playing at the time. Instead of giving up on a character, put it aside for a while and try every class. When one character gets boring, play another or go back to one you were playing previously.

danno8 · February 2017

BlackSparrow wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Restart of you don't care for the class. Level 18 is a 2 or 3 hour investment. No big loss.

Not for new players, it isn't. For someone who's learning the game, listening to (or at least reading) dialogue, and exploring the map instead of rushing from quest marker to quest marker, 18 is a great deal longer than 2-3 hours.

Which, imo, I have to agree with @Tandor that that is the best way to play the game. There is no reason at all to rush your first character. This game is really much more fun if you kick back and enjoy the journey instead of focusing on the destination.

I am assuming he will not be reading the same dialogue as intently as he did the first time. I am also assuming that he does not have to relearn everything he learned the first 18 levels again.

Especially if he chooses the same alliance.

My point stands. If he is worried about the time it takes to get to 18, he should know that he can get there very fast if he wishes.

MethTheMadman · February 2017

danno8 wrote: »

BlackSparrow wrote: »

danno8 wrote: »

Restart of you don't care for the class. Level 18 is a 2 or 3 hour investment. No big loss.

Not for new players, it isn't. For someone who's learning the game, listening to (or at least reading) dialogue, and exploring the map instead of rushing from quest marker to quest marker, 18 is a great deal longer than 2-3 hours.

Which, imo, I have to agree with @Tandor that that is the best way to play the game. There is no reason at all to rush your first character. This game is really much more fun if you kick back and enjoy the journey instead of focusing on the destination.

I am assuming he will not be reading the same dialogue as intently as he did the first time. I am also assuming that he does not have to relearn everything he learned the first 18 levels again.

Especially if he chooses the same alliance.

My point stands. If he is worried about the time it takes to get to 18, he should know that he can get there very fast if he wishes.

As the OP I actually think you both have valid points.

I've played before. I have a level 27 dragon knight. While that's not well seasoned, it was enough to at least have an idea of what I'm doing this time through. I logged him on after more than a year and realized 1T killed him. Why? Because I screwed up when playing him. I was playing content much lower level than I was because I geared him like crap. Dude does no damage and is squishy as hell with content his level.

So I restarted.

It has taken me about 4 weeks of playing to get to 18.

If I restarted, I'd bet I could get to 18 in 2-3 weeks.

Egonieser · February 2017

Templar is only boring in the begining, almost any class is. When you reach higher levels, you get a lot more flexibility in terms of skill and build setups. True at start you will mostly be using jabs/sweep because it is a good spammable skill, but later on you will get a array of ranged, support, heal and other utility skills that will spice things up, making you a force to be reckoned with. Bosses, dungeons and other things will become easy as you learn your class if you manage your skill rotation well, and trust me, it includes a lot more than just using a few skills.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam · February 2017

Only problem for you, if you create a stamina character is that your main heal is Vigour (earned in Pvp)....
Although the Duel wield moves give small heals when morphed.

Stam sorc is a good option due to crit surge.

Maybe consider playing another class? MagBlade or the mighty MagDK?

KochDerDamonen · February 2017

If you set a goal for yourself like that, you're making yourself rush

If you want to have a challenging time while levelling: Try Stamina Nightblade
If you want to have a challenging time that ramps up into being quite relaxed: Try Stamina Sorcerer

You could also rebuild stamina on your current character, as stamina templar has no where near the self-healing power of a magicka templar. If you don't pick race for role, that is.

MakoFore · February 2017

get to 50 as quick as u can with ur current guy- then any xp u earn from there on will contribute to ur overall account - and CP. plus you'll come back to ur magplar one day I'm sure. i have one of every class. theyre all fun to play with.

KochDerDamonen · February 2017

MakoFore wrote: »

get to 50 as quick as u can with ur current guy- then any xp u earn from there on will contribute to ur overall account - and CP. plus you'll come back to ur magplar one day I'm sure. i have one of every class. theyre all fun to play with.

only xp gained on characters over level 50 count towards champion point gains^

ADarklore · February 2017

Egonieser wrote: »

Templar is only boring in the begining, almost any class is. When you reach higher levels, you get a lot more flexibility in terms of skill and build setups. True at start you will mostly be using jabs/sweep because it is a good spammable skill, but later on you will get a array of ranged, support, heal and other utility skills that will spice things up, making you a force to be reckoned with. Bosses, dungeons and other things will become easy as you learn your class if you manage your skill rotation well, and trust me, it includes a lot more than just using a few skills.

I have to disagree. I get SO easily bored with my max level Magplar that I rarely play him anymore. I've found that StamSorcs for me, offer the best variety and versatility. Magplars tend to have the same rotation, same skills, why, because they work extremely well. A Magplar, IMO, is the best balance class because you have both range and melee options within the class. However, this also means that typically you have certain skills that just work and work well, so why mess with it? Perhaps it is because I just don't enjoy the actual skills, unlike with my StamSorc that I just enjoy using Bow/DW because they are fun skills to use.

ArchMikem · February 2017

AriokoSan wrote: »

I love my magplar. I've biting jabs my way through nearly all the content in the game with him

Biting is the stam morph. You mean puncturing sweeps.

DragonBound · February 2017

Hi op how are you doing today?:) This discussion is way to over discussed, and unnecessary, do yourself a favor and try some other characters, if you like a spellsword battlemage playstyle then stamsorc is the way to go and really fun to play in my opinion, just pick what sounds most appealing and try it out and stick with it and get those cps. The answer is allot simpler then you realize.