You should stop making DLCs and "Chapters" based on previous TES games.

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Dark_Aether · February 2017

I am pretty sure they also have restrictions on what area they can touch to not interfere with Bethesda's actual productions. Whatever province TES VI takes place in will probably come out soon after that game is released; perhaps the following "Chapter" to cash in on the hype.

Molydeus · February 2017

hmsdragonfly wrote: »

AtraisMachina wrote: »

I know thats all there gunna do because they dont wanna spend dev time actually creating content, but its getting to the point were im just gunna declare to myself that none of this game is cannon. Watch the next big area release will be west skyrim. 20 bucks on it.

LOL this grammar is killing me xD

AtraisMachina wrote:

Cool

You should be embarrassed at butchering your native language so thoroughly.

Balamoor · February 2017

AtraisMachina wrote: »

I know thats all there gunna do because they dont wanna spend dev time actually creating content, but its getting to the point were im just gunna declare to myself that none of this game is cannon. Watch the next big area release will be west skyrim. 20 bucks on it.

Okay...how can I put this.

I hope that ZoS never listens to this because personally I love the direction they are going, I understand for all you Millennials, the game didn't start until Morrowind...but as has been rightly pointed out Tamreil has been pretty much mapped out in Arena. Does that leave no room for anything new? Of course not, but they have a vast well of established content to draw from.

I love that the game feels like the entire world and I want that to continue.

KochDerDamonen · February 2017

Browiseth wrote: »

Gedalya wrote: »

AtraisMachina wrote: »

I know thats all there gunna do because they dont wanna spend dev time actually creating content, but its getting to the point were im just gunna declare to myself that none of this game is cannon. Watch the next big area release will be west skyrim. 20 bucks on it.

Haters gonna hate. Speaking on behalf of many players though: I'm really excited for Morrowind.

OP speaks on the behalf of many players as well

clj94104 wrote: »

OP's post is aids. Thanks for letting me experience Morrowind this way for the first time ZOS, and I look forward to Skyrim if you do it.

yes, the OP is aids for having a different opinion to the majority

lovely

@Browiseth fairly certain it's more about the OP's attitude than the content of their message. Just look through their posts in this thread, making big-chested statements, saying their opinion is backed up by facts, cussing, lashing out on anyone disagreeing with them. One could make a writeup on why the earth is round, if they come off as a bellend that's all many of us are going to take from it

zaria · February 2017

Rex-Umbra wrote: »

Skyrim won't be next. My guess is rest of western Cyrodiil and southern hammerfell. Since both have been referenced quite often in the guild dlcs.

Yes, Khajiit hopes for elsweyr, option two is southern hammerfell or summerset isles, black mach and last Skyrim.
We have have two decent skyrim like zones and the others has to be pretty similar.

jircris11 · February 2017

zaria wrote: »

Rex-Umbra wrote: »

Skyrim won't be next. My guess is rest of western Cyrodiil and southern hammerfell. Since both have been referenced quite often in the guild dlcs.

Yes, Khajiit hopes for elsweyr, option two is southern hammerfell or summerset isles, black mach and last Skyrim.
We have have two decent skyrim like zones and the others has to be pretty similar.

this one would like to visit elsweyr some time, Khajiit was born away from there, so she does not know what it is like.

ADarklore · February 2017

Dark_Aether wrote: »

I am pretty sure they also have restrictions on what area they can touch to not interfere with Bethesda's actual productions. Whatever province TES VI takes place in will probably come out soon after that game is released; perhaps the following "Chapter" to cash in on the hype.

That's not necessarily true since the next TES game will be set after Skyrim, so since ESO is taking place in the distant past, it would not be an issue, as with ESO and Morrowind, for TES to utilize any area they haven't done in a previous TES game- which could include areas that have been done by ESO.

MythicEmperor · February 2017

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

AtraisMachina wrote: »

I know thats all there gunna do because they dont wanna spend dev time actually creating content, but its getting to the point were im just gunna declare to myself that none of this game is cannon. Watch the next big area release will be west skyrim. 20 bucks on it.

No matter where they place any DLC, Arena did it first :^)

Port Telvannis, Thras, Atmora, Akavir... I could go on

AtraisMachina · February 2017

Koensol wrote: »

They do it cuz nostalgia. $$$$$

exactly thank you.

dvkkha wrote: »

AtraisMachina wrote: »

im just gunna declare to myself that none of this game is cannon.

https://twitter.com/TESOnline/status/372017971423498240

ESO is canon. Deal with it.

They "work with" lawrence. By that they mean we get instructions to do things from corperate and then we run them by him to make sure its not blatantly messed up. He has very little to do with the actuall lore design and writing in eso.

ZOS_DaryaK wrote: »

We've removed quite a lot of posts from this discussion that were inflammatory, insulting, or nonsensical. Please keep your posts constructive and civil.

In related news, did you know you can get Arena and Daggerfall for free? You'll need to use a software emulator to play them, but you can find the download at the links provided.

Ok

Browiseth wrote: »

yeah, i'm hoping this game doesn't just turn into fanservice simulator 2017

but, judging from the praise i read on the forums and ingame, that's what the people want, so...

Exactly my man fan service. But not mmo fan service. FAN BOY service.

TequilaFire wrote: »

AtraisMachina wrote: »

Cadbury wrote: »

AtraisMachina wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

AtraisMachina wrote: »

I know thats all there gunna do because they dont wanna spend dev time actually creating content, but its getting to the point were im just gunna declare to myself that none of this game is cannon. Watch the next big area release will be west skyrim. 20 bucks on it.

This is precious. Has not even seen the content and knows almost nothing about it and makes this kind of comment.

Ok, yea, no.

Based on what he says everything in ESO so far since it all falls within territory of the previous games. My only guess is he has just started playing the game.

If you honeslty count arena as a tes game i see your point. But nobody in there right mind played arena and no one ever should!

What was bad about Arena? Serious question as I haven't played it.

Its a 90's computer game.

Because it was in the 90's makes it bad?
It was cutting edge for the time.
Maybe you weren't born yet? lol

Exactly thats like trying to proclaim that video games age like wine. From an objective stand point its one of the worst games in existence seeing as it was one of the first.

Callous2208 wrote: »

The hell is this kid talking about? It's TES, in the TES world. Why wouldn't they make expansions and go to places we've seen before. Where the hell else would we go? And what's this bs about not catering to rpg fan boys? Why would you care where the *** took place if you're not a fan of rpgs? If you have no vested interest in lore, locale, or characters, why does it even matter where they go next? Get your thoughts together before you come spouting off absolute nonsense. All these replies and no one can even grasp whatever goofy point you're trying to make.

Browiseth wrote: »

Callous2208 wrote: »

The hell is this kid talking about? It's TES, in the TES world. Why wouldn't they make expansions and go to places we've seen before. Where the hell else would we go? And what's this bs about not catering to rpg fan boys? Why would you care where the *** took place if you're not a fan of rpgs? If you have no vested interest in lore, locale, or characters, why does it even matter where they go next? Get your thoughts together before you come spouting off absolute nonsense. All these replies and no one can even grasp whatever goofy point you're trying to make.

maybe OP would like to see new locations in elder scrolls lore, rather than just being spoonfed the same things they've already seen?

Weird this guy seems to have got it.

starlizard70ub17_ESO · February 2017

Arthmoor wrote: »

AtraisMachina wrote: »

Watch the next big area release will be west skyrim. 20 bucks on it.

And? We already have Eastmarch and The Rift now. 900 years prior to when TES V takes place. If they added The Reach and Hafingaar (west skyrim fyi) then they'd also be set in the same timeline 900 years before TES V. Considering there are even Reachmen in the game now, this wouldn't even be a big stretch to justify bringing in, so I say they go for it.

I wouldn't mind seeing western Skyrim actually. The Reachmen are either in full invasion mode or already own most of it at this time, so there could be some good quest lines there. Also the area has some of the largest and oldest dwemer ruins around. Who'd like to see Darkreach, meet the last of the Snow Elves or visit Castle Volkihar during ESO times.

nimander99 · February 2017

"Dear ZeniMax, stop making excellent business decisions and preying on the communities nostalgia."

Sincerely,

Person who has no clue how to capitalize on a well established series.

Izay · February 2017

dvkkha wrote: »

AtraisMachina wrote: »

im just gunna declare to myself that none of this game is cannon.

https://twitter.com/TESOnline/status/372017971423498240

ESO is canon. Deal with it.

Going to quote this to trigger people who think they decide what the lore is for TES. Bring on Skyrim next, can't wait!

DragonBound · February 2017

AtraisMachina wrote: »

I know thats all there gunna do because they dont wanna spend dev time actually creating content, but its getting to the point were im just gunna declare to myself that none of this game is cannon. Watch the next big area release will be west skyrim. 20 bucks on it.

Should I make a post or memes at how people whine to much like they do in every post or any healthy criticism anyone makes including mine? But I do not agree they should stop making dlc, plus more changes usually come with dlc.

Dark_Aether · February 2017

ADarklore wrote: »

That's not necessarily true since the next TES game will be set after Skyrim

You know there is nothing restricting them to set the next game after Skyrim; we could go back to the Merethic Era for all you know.

ADarklore wrote: »

so since ESO is taking place in the distant past, it would not be an issue, as with ESO and Morrowind, for TES to utilize any area they haven't done in a previous TES game- which could include areas that have been done by ESO.

I was referring to the level design aspect. I feel that they had liberty to mess around with places like Craglorn and Auridon that we have not visited in a 3D setting before ESO because there are no plan for Bethesda to work on those places yet. It would be off putting to TES lore freaks to notice major differences in locations if the next TES game were to come out set in Craglorn, and too much work to coordinate level design between studios. It would be easier for them to not touch too much of Hammerfell for example if TES VI is set there, then just use their height map and adjust it to ESO.

But I could be wrong!

AtraisMachina · February 2017

Izay wrote: »

dvkkha wrote: »

AtraisMachina wrote: »

im just gunna declare to myself that none of this game is cannon.

https://twitter.com/TESOnline/status/372017971423498240

ESO is canon. Deal with it.

Going to quote this to trigger people who think they decide what the lore is for TES. Bring on Skyrim next, can't wait!

Im gunna quote this to trigger the people who think that ZOS owns the TES ip!

Thats the thing man zos doesn't get to decide lore. Bethesda does. And just because zos says they work closely with Bethesda, have you looked to see what "closely" intails?

Strider_Roshin · February 2017

I agree. The next dlc should be based on the game Bloodborne; where we'll have to fight the children of Kos as they beat us to a bloody pulp with their placentas.

AtraisMachina · February 2017

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

I agree. The next dlc should be based on the game Bloodborne; where we'll have to fight the children of Kos as they beat us to a bloody pulp with their placentas.

Praise Kathuloo.

Arthmoor · February 2017

Just wanted to point out, people talking about the heightmap not changing much for Morrowind in 700 years doesn't make much sense. The Cyrodiil area in ESO now is vastly different than the way things look in Oblivion. So there's really no reason they can't deviate significantly from the base heightmap import.

Even the Gold Coast region from the Dark Brotherhood DLC is significantly different from what Anvil and its surroundings look like 700 years later.

So we have every reason to expect Morrowind to not be an old clone of the game we all remember.

Nyghthowler · February 2017

MythicEmperor wrote: »

Cadbury wrote: »

I'm hoping they switch gears and have a chapter taking place in Middle Earth or a Fallout crossover.

I hope you are joking.

LOL at your meme, Sir. Well played!

Browiseth · February 2017

Arthmoor wrote: »

Just wanted to point out, people talking about the heightmap not changing much for Morrowind in 700 years doesn't make much sense. The Cyrodiil area in ESO now is vastly different than the way things look in Oblivion. So there's really no reason they can't deviate significantly from the base heightmap import.

Even the Gold Coast region from the Dark Brotherhood DLC is significantly different from what Anvil and its surroundings look like 700 years later.

So we have every reason to expect Morrowind to not be an old clone of the game we all remember.

you've never spoken to members of the tes:3 fanbase, have you?

if one building isn't placed the right way in balmora they'll flip their bits

MAEK · February 2017

AtraisMachina wrote: »

AlexanderDeLarge wrote: »

AtraisMachina wrote: »

AdamskiAlders wrote: »

As someone who didn't get into the Elder Scrolls franchise until the legendary game that is The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion(still has one of the most awesome and epic intro cinematics btw), I have absolutely no qualms about them revisiting past locales from previous Elder Scrolls titles in the series and putting them into ESO. I loved Oblivion and Skyrim but nearly every Elder Scrolls/RPG fan I speak to always mentions Morrowind as one of, if not their utmost favourite game. I happy that I'll get to experience my own travels and journeys to Vvardenfell, Red Mountain, Vivec City and the like as I've heard about them from others or from reading the lore books in game(yes I once read the whole Imp City bookshop in one go when I first played Oblivion - don't judge lol).

This is the exact attitude that makes zos not fix bugs and not actually improve on the mmo because theyre more interested in snatching these guys up to buy thier *** and then leave after 40 hours instead of actually trying to make a better mmo

For a 600 CP-level player, it sounds like you don't enjoy the setting/game itself/MMO genre. You're more than free to quit, and I would advise doing so considering that it sounds like you're just angry that The Elder Scrolls Online isn't The Elder Scrolls VI

It's actually quite the contrary i love eso as an mmo. But its an mmo. And they need to stop catering to rpg fan boys like yourself. And make the mmo better.

So you are saying that you're not interested in the lore? And that adding more questing with nice lore would be bad? That just because you don't enjoy a certain aspect of the game it shouldn't be expanded upon? You do realise that this is the elder scrolls, right? You know like the game series that is famous for its rich and deep lore, and as such they should definately cater to us fan boys as we are a large part of their target audience.

Cadbury · February 2017

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

I agree. The next dlc should be based on the game Bloodborne; where we'll have to fight the children of Kos as they beat us to a bloody pulp with their placentas.

I'm ok with this.

MrSaiyan · February 2017

Stop adding dlc and start fixing what they have, I'd rather have the game fixed then another buggy dlc added.

Faulgor · February 2017

AtraisMachina wrote: »

Izay wrote: »

dvkkha wrote: »

AtraisMachina wrote: »

im just gunna declare to myself that none of this game is cannon.

https://twitter.com/TESOnline/status/372017971423498240

ESO is canon. Deal with it.

Going to quote this to trigger people who think they decide what the lore is for TES. Bring on Skyrim next, can't wait!

Im gunna quote this to trigger the people who think that ZOS owns the TES ip!

Thats the thing man zos doesn't get to decide lore. Bethesda does. And just because zos says they work closely with Bethesda, have you looked to see what "closely" intails?

The TES IP is owned by ZeniMax Media. Their own publisher, Bethesda Softworks, has released games of that franchise created by different developers, such as Bethesda Game Studios, ZeniMax Online Studios, and Direwolf Digital. One is not more legit than the other just because you don't like what they put out.

Danikat · February 2017

Browiseth wrote: »

Arthmoor wrote: »

Just wanted to point out, people talking about the heightmap not changing much for Morrowind in 700 years doesn't make much sense. The Cyrodiil area in ESO now is vastly different than the way things look in Oblivion. So there's really no reason they can't deviate significantly from the base heightmap import.

Even the Gold Coast region from the Dark Brotherhood DLC is significantly different from what Anvil and its surroundings look like 700 years later.

So we have every reason to expect Morrowind to not be an old clone of the game we all remember.

you've never spoken to members of the tes:3 fanbase, have you?

if one building isn't placed the right way in balmora they'll flip their bits

They already have. There was a screenshot of Balmora with an extra bridge and a missing tower and people were getting all worked up about how it shows ZOS don't know or care about the lore or the previous games, they're just going to do their own thing and expect us to put up with it.

Apparently the idea that over the next 700 years the dunmer built a bridge and demolished a tower was completely out of the question.

Majic · February 2017

Cannon DLC? Count me in!

But only if ZOS does it right...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4roxM8hUMk

Kendo12 · February 2017

Next year is ESO Skyrim

Will be funny watching all the meltdowns

subtlezeroub17_ESO · February 2017

In this thread: whiny and unconstructive post with zero logic #633562

Nothing new to see here folks. Move along...

Arthmoor · February 2017

Browiseth wrote: »

Arthmoor wrote: »

Just wanted to point out, people talking about the heightmap not changing much for Morrowind in 700 years doesn't make much sense. The Cyrodiil area in ESO now is vastly different than the way things look in Oblivion. So there's really no reason they can't deviate significantly from the base heightmap import.

Even the Gold Coast region from the Dark Brotherhood DLC is significantly different from what Anvil and its surroundings look like 700 years later.

So we have every reason to expect Morrowind to not be an old clone of the game we all remember.

you've never spoken to members of the tes:3 fanbase, have you?

if one building isn't placed the right way in balmora they'll flip their bits

I have actually, and haven't run into any of them that will flip out if Balmora isn't an exact clone. In fact they reasonably expect it won't be. Also I am part of that fanbase myself and certainly don't expect an exact duplicate of anything. That would be lame.