Down to 25 fps with 1070 & 6700k, 4.6 overclock

ChaosWotan · February 2017

Used to have a steady 58-60 in cities, in Oct-Nov 2016 when my gaming rig was brand new, with basically everything on ultra. FPS was also very good in full raids in pvp at that time. Then I started installing some of the most popular addons from Minion. And since then my fps has been much lower, including when I have un-installed all addons. At worst it can now be down to 25 dps in Rawklah and Cyrodiil. It's usually around 58-60 fps when questing in the countryside.

Got the latest drivers. I only use the rig for gaming, don't even use it for googling or email. Have only ESO on my 500gb SSD Samsung 850 now. Have fiber broadband, with a steady ping around 67 in cities and pvp. BF1 runs without any lag or microstuttering on ultra.

Have noticed that I can occcasionally get 60 fps in a crowded Mournhold, at a busy dolmen or in a large pvp battle, but then for some reason it plummet to 25-35 fps.

So has ESO got worse coding the latest months?

Is the lag caused by virus from Minion?

Since ESO is a MMO, will it help to upgrade the overclock to 4.8, or is it better to get a 1080 gpu? Can't afford both higher oc and a new GPU right now, because I need a new watercooler and a new case if I want to reach 4.8.

Is it something I can do with Nvidia control panel, bios, Windows 10 or the ESO ini file that will help?

Have tried experimenting a lot with the Nvidia control panel, but no luck, and Win 10 is already tweaked pretty goood for optimal gaming. Have not disabled hyperthreading though.

Arrchangell · February 2017

Its not on your end. The game is just getting more and more popular, and new players are coming. Tbh i am surprised u even had that fps few months ago.

Sprite_Five · February 2017

I'm running a heavily clocked 980ti with a 6700 @ 4.6 and res @3440x1440. Everything is maxed except shadows and sub sampling at med. view distance is at about 80% and particle thingamebobd at about half. Get 60 most of the time with a drop into low 50s in parts of towns or busy events.

980ti and 1070 stock ain't too far apart and my overclock performs quite a way past 1070 benchmarks. I'd start with an oc on your GPU.

phaneub17_ESO · February 2017

I disable Shadow and Water, that got me from 30 to 60 FPS on dual gtx 970. Like most games those are insane hogs and really don't affect gameplay unless you really like seeing shadows of trees and stuff.

MLGProPlayer · February 2017

Sprite_Five wrote: »

I'm running a heavily clocked 980ti with a 6700 @ 4.6 and res @3440x1440. Everything is maxed except shadows and sub sampling at med. view distance is at about 80% and particle thingamebobd at about half. Get 60 most of the time with a drop into low 50s in parts of towns or busy events.

980ti and 1070 stock ain't too far apart and my overclock performs quite a way past 1070 benchmarks. I'd start with an oc on your GPU.

This game is CPU-bound. The only thing that will provide a perfomance boost is overclocking the CPU.

A GTX 960 is as good as a 1080 for this game. It isn't graphically demanding.

OldGamerESO · February 2017

I think everyone has a different experience with performance. I have 60 fps everywhere (I set that as max), doing anything on ultra settings. Running a huge number of addons. cpu clock 4.5, 1070 GTX. Performance monitors sees the CPU as barely used and the graphics card as falling asleep with boredom. I have no idea why my machine runs smooth as silk and everyone else complains. I guess I got lucky.

Sprite_Five · February 2017

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

Sprite_Five wrote: »

I'm running a heavily clocked 980ti with a 6700 @ 4.6 and res @3440x1440. Everything is maxed except shadows and sub sampling at med. view distance is at about 80% and particle thingamebobd at about half. Get 60 most of the time with a drop into low 50s in parts of towns or busy events.

980ti and 1070 stock ain't too far apart and my overclock performs quite a way past 1070 benchmarks. I'd start with an oc on your GPU.

This game is CPU-bound. The only thing that will provide a perfomance boost is overclocking the CPU.

A GTX 960 is as good as a 1080 for this game. It isn't graphically demanding.

Funny that, I was dropping down into the mid to low 40s which was really noticeable, upped my GPU oc a bit and got an extra 5 frames at the low end which was enough to keep me in the 50s and prevent some jarring. Same area, same time, all other settings the same.

Something made a difference. I did go for a crap after I tweeked the oc, must have been that.

Docmandu · February 2017

Push the OC too far and your CPU will throttle down due to thermal protection and actually run worse than before.

Auros · February 2017

ZOS do coding errors sometimes. In the last PN they stated:

"Fixed an issue where subsampling levels in your graphics options were not functioning."

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/321427/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-7-6#latest

Junipus · February 2017

Could be unfortunate timing with One Tamriel. Most cities used to have only a 3rd of the population they do now and much smoother frame rates and ping, but with a tripling of population along with an influx of new players it's more taxing on your system than it used to be.

I'd suggest dropping some of the less noticeable settings if you're focused on getting higher FPS. There's also threads on reddit (can't find them now) which detail various .ini settings you can change to improve performance that aren't included in game, which might help.

Ajaxduo · February 2017

Welcome to ESO! I'd doubt that it's your rig, I run GTX 970 with a 4.2 OC and the game runs smoothly mostly 60-100 fps open world/dungeons. But the moment I drop into a populated area such as Mournhold the game has to render all of those player models, FPS will drop substantially to 40 or lower. Performance issues have been left on the plate for quite awhile, iirc the road ahead mentions correcting these issues this year.

phairdon · February 2017

Started getting lag spikes, stuttering, freezes and crashing after homestead patch, the type of lag normally experienced in Cyrodiil during weekends made its way to the pve side.
The lag has almost disappeared since the latest maintenance, crashes are still occurring though.

ChaosWotan · February 2017

Tnx a lot for good replies, though I see that nobody really has a solution here so far. I guess it's just the game, but might I been infected by a virus from some of the most popular Minion addons? It was after I installed them that I noticed more lag, but that might just be a coincidence?

Liofa · February 2017

I noticed a FPS loss as well . Especially in Hel Ra , when Warrior goes to middle and breaks walls , it becomes a slideshow for everyone , not only for me . We go down to 2-10 from 25-30 . I assume this happens in other zones as well but I think main reason for that is the crowd . Cities like Mournhold is just a torture itself . I have to port to the other wayshrine that is near the city . If I port directly into city , there is a 99% chance that I will be stuck in loading screen , especially in evening . I would really like a channel system . Like in Cabal Online . There were 24(?) channels for one server . You would just go to the empty one and play with 80-90 (I normally play with 120-130) ping and constant 60 fps . This is what happens if you try to fit a whole community into one channel ^^

Stillian · February 2017

ChaosWotan wrote: »

Used to have a steady 58-60 in cities, in Oct-Nov 2016 when my gaming rig was brand new, with basically everything on ultra. FPS was also very good in full raids in pvp at that time. Then I started installing some of the most popular addons from Minion. And since then my fps has been much lower, including when I have un-installed all addons. At worst it can now be down to 25 dps in Rawklah and Cyrodiil. It's usually around 58-60 fps when questing in the countryside.

Got the latest drivers. I only use the rig for gaming, don't even use it for googling or email. Have only ESO on my 500gb SSD Samsung 850 now. Have fiber broadband, with a steady ping around 67 in cities and pvp. BF1 runs without any lag or microstuttering on ultra.

Have noticed that I can occcasionally get 60 fps in a crowded Mournhold, at a busy dolmen or in a large pvp battle, but then for some reason it plummet to 25-35 fps.

So has ESO got worse coding the latest months?

Check your memory frequency, might cause issues if its low. Run at 2400 and be happy

Auros · February 2017

No virus. I use Minion as well. Don't worry about that.

Add-onns can cause crashes when they try to process too much info in a short timeframe. I usually crash when I port via shrine, NOT wait the game to load all and run immediately ... I know this is my PC (8GB ram only) but don't forget all those info you expect "to be there" Nameplates, harvested nodes, lorebooks, shards, what not so yeah ... this IS expected for my PC.

The sudden drop in FPS I experience is when Anchor finish and everything starts exploding, BUT not always!! which means it is again related to the events which happen: maybe: checking XP, ahcievements, RNG the drop in the chest -- and what not...

Again it is very dependant on the time of the day! So everything adds to the whole picture ...

Put a forgotten "on/off" features in the graphics from patch to patch and you're set

ChaosWotan · February 2017

LOL, I forgot to set my memory to 3000. It has been on 2100 the last months. Mournhold and Rawkla are not crowded now, but run a steady 60 fps at the moment. Thanks a billion for that advice, it literally saved me a thousand dollars, since I was about to buy a 1080 today, something which I can now postpone a few months at least

Auros · February 2017

This is good to know. Sudden drops vs constant.

ChaosWotan · February 2017

Also took a trip around in the city of Orsinium, and the fps is back to a steady 60 there.

It seems like memory is essential for good fps.

Incredibly happy now!

Though I try not to think about the fact that I had lag the last months just because I forgot the ram last time I changed bios settings.

Hopefully it will also be much better now when more people are online, but it will lag more then ofc.

Again tnx a lot!

Ajaxduo · February 2017

ChaosWotan wrote: »

Also took a trip around in the city of Orsinium, and the fps is back to a steady 60 there.

It seems like memory is essential for good fps.

Incredibly happy now!

Though I try not to think about the fact that I had lag the last months just because I forgot the ram last time I changed bios settings.

Hopefully it will also be much better now when more people are online, but it will lag more then ofc.

Again tnx a lot!

What specific setting are you changing?

ChaosWotan · February 2017

I changed from manual to XMP (or xpm) in the Asus bios. That was all. Had it there originally, but forgot to reset it. I have 16gb ddr4 ram btw.

srfrogg23 · February 2017

I get short drops in frame rates while in big cities as the textures are loading, too. It usually bounces right back up to 60 fps and stays there.

If you haven't tried it yet, OP, reduce the visual distance and the particles. That should give a big boost to frame rates with the least impact on how the game looks.

Auros · February 2017

I have quite old (2010 PC)

i5 2310 - @2.9GHz
8GB DDR3 1333? I think ...
GTX 750Ti 2GB

I get 42FPS in big towns, but in cluttered groups with many "objects" and effects to render can freeze for miliseconds.

I play only at 1920 x 1080

It depends on many things ... but sudden "clutter" drops can be caused of server lag, while other like "effects" are expected for low spec like mine.

Nevertheless I play at ultra settings!!

I know I have completed the same Anchor without whatsoever drop of FPS at different time and number of players so I know it is possible to preform OK (not BEST of course, or why would others spend so much more $$$ on hardware with the same effect) but code optimisation and server loads DO have an impact. Addons also!!

Good point to think about: if you have so much more powerfull hardware than me, do you get only 20 FPS more?? (though I assume that you play at a higher resolution which would make sense. I'd die there

)

ChaosWotan · February 2017

As already mentioned, fixed the issue by getting ram frequency up to 3000. Buy ram folks!

Auros · February 2017

This is the problem, the motherboard does not support

= new PC

Huyen · February 2017

Funny how people still think they can actually notice higher fps.
Sience and biology tests have already shown that the human eye is incapable of seeing more then 26fps anyway. So stop complaining that you got low fps, and stop bragging about your 100fps! It has no use anyway.

Auros · February 2017

It is not only that

Power supply for the better video and mother board + CPU box for the DDR4 and 16 or 32 and in the end you need good headphones to hear the sound of the game in comparisson to your PC

Mine is quiet as an iPad

Sprite_Five · February 2017

Huyen wrote: »

Funny how people still think they can actually notice higher fps.
Sience and biology tests have already shown that the human eye is incapable of seeing more then 26fps anyway. So stop complaining that you got low fps, and stop bragging about your 100fps! It has no use anyway.

U must be trolling.

Wifeaggro13 · February 2017

ChaosWotan wrote: »

Used to have a steady 58-60 in cities, in Oct-Nov 2016 when my gaming rig was brand new, with basically everything on ultra. FPS was also very good in full raids in pvp at that time. Then I started installing some of the most popular addons from Minion. And since then my fps has been much lower, including when I have un-installed all addons. At worst it can now be down to 25 dps in Rawklah and Cyrodiil. It's usually around 58-60 fps when questing in the countryside.

Got the latest drivers. I only use the rig for gaming, don't even use it for googling or email. Have only ESO on my 500gb SSD Samsung 850 now. Have fiber broadband, with a steady ping around 67 in cities and pvp. BF1 runs without any lag or microstuttering on ultra.

Have noticed that I can occcasionally get 60 fps in a crowded Mournhold, at a busy dolmen or in a large pvp battle, but then for some reason it plummet to 25-35 fps.

So has ESO got worse coding the latest months?

Is the lag caused by virus from Minion?

Since ESO is a MMO, will it help to upgrade the overclock to 4.8, or is it better to get a 1080 gpu? Can't afford both higher oc and a new GPU right now, because I need a new watercooler and a new case if I want to reach 4.8.

Is it something I can do with Nvidia control panel, bios, Windows 10 or the ESO ini file that will help?

Have tried experimenting a lot with the Nvidia control panel, but no luck, and Win 10 is already tweaked pretty goood for optimal gaming. Have not disabled hyperthreading though.

it will get better , it has to do with how housing and instancing is handling itself with ZOS server technology. Turn of Anti aliasing and bloom for the time being that will give you a bit of a bump up.

TheTwistedRune · February 2017

ChaosWotan wrote: »

Used to have a steady 58-60 in cities, in Oct-Nov 2016 when my gaming rig was brand new, with basically everything on ultra. FPS was also very good in full raids in pvp at that time. Then I started installing some of the most popular addons from Minion. And since then my fps has been much lower, including when I have un-installed all addons. At worst it can now be down to 25 dps in Rawklah and Cyrodiil. It's usually around 58-60 fps when questing in the countryside.

Got the latest drivers. I only use the rig for gaming, don't even use it for googling or email. Have only ESO on my 500gb SSD Samsung 850 now. Have fiber broadband, with a steady ping around 67 in cities and pvp. BF1 runs without any lag or microstuttering on ultra.

Have noticed that I can occcasionally get 60 fps in a crowded Mournhold, at a busy dolmen or in a large pvp battle, but then for some reason it plummet to 25-35 fps.

So has ESO got worse coding the latest months?

Is the lag caused by virus from Minion?

Since ESO is a MMO, will it help to upgrade the overclock to 4.8, or is it better to get a 1080 gpu? Can't afford both higher oc and a new GPU right now, because I need a new watercooler and a new case if I want to reach 4.8.

Is it something I can do with Nvidia control panel, bios, Windows 10 or the ESO ini file that will help?

Have tried experimenting a lot with the Nvidia control panel, but no luck, and Win 10 is already tweaked pretty goood for optimal gaming. Have not disabled hyperthreading though.

This problem could be something else entirely. Myself and quite a few people I know do on occasion have fps drops in towns. I have had drops in Daggerfall from 120+FPS (On ultra everything maxed) to 45FPS or less for no apparent reason. I'm not tech savvy but I am sure its not game engine demand, server load or hardware based because logging out then back in again cures it every time. I have zero issues with any other games.

I have heard people say the game has a memory leak which can cause these issues. I have a £4000 gaming pc so I am doubtful its lack of power on my rigs part. But who knows?

Nutshotz · February 2017

I'm experiencing the exact same thing you guys are having. FPS dropping from 90's all the way down to teens for no reason. Even on medium settings.

My rig.

I7 5820k @3Ghz not OC
Gpu - GTX 1060 6gb (msi)
16gb ram @2400 ddr4
Msi motherboard. X99s sli plus
[Just installed a new corsair H80i v2]
SSD 850 Evo with eso on it

I've never been able to figure out why I can't run this game on ultra settings

Down to 25 fps with 1070 &amp; 6700k, 4.6 overclock

Down to 25 fps with 1070 & 6700k, 4.6 overclock