New Player, crafting your thoughts.

Greenseer · February 2017

Hello everyone, I'm new to ESO though not new to the genre. Now I'm thoroughly enjoying ESO and it's level/questing..etc but the crafting thing has be a bit cross eye'd.

I'm currently level 15, just got my 2nd action bar/set and I not explored crafting at all. My question is, should I be investing the time and energy into crafting as I level or is it perfectly respectable to simply wait till I've reached level 50 and then explore it.

another words tell me why it's a mistake to not spend time while leveling gathering mats and crafting or tell me why it's perfectly fine to wait till 50 If I'm not interested in doing so now.

Thank you for your opinions/thoughts.

ThePaleItalian · February 2017

Start researching now. It will pass as you level.
Decon all the intricate stuff you can to lvl your crafting skills.

You will probably be close to maxing stuff as you level. There are plenty of guides and options on how to do it. So it make your eyes do more than cross. Just take it slow.

Greenseer · February 2017

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

Start researching now. It will pass as you level.
Decon all the intricate stuff you can to lvl your crafting skills.

You will probably be close to maxing stuff as you level. There are plenty of guides and options on how to do it. So it make your eyes do more than cross. Just take it slow.

So what I should be doing with all items that are not upgrades to me I should be deconstructing them and just crafting w/ them?

UrQuan · February 2017

Yeah, if nothing else, start researching traits as early as possible. If I were you I'd also start doing the equipment crafting as soon as possible, because leveling goes so much easier with crafted gear sets. Provisioning and alchemy are easy to level at any time, and aren't super important while you're leveling. Enchanting is the longest grind for leveling a crafting skill, so you might as well start deconstructing every glyph you find now, even if you don't bother putting any skill points into any of the enchanting passives.

UrQuan · February 2017

Greenseer wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

Start researching now. It will pass as you level.
Decon all the intricate stuff you can to lvl your crafting skills.

You will probably be close to maxing stuff as you level. There are plenty of guides and options on how to do it. So it make your eyes do more than cross. Just take it slow.

So what I should be doing with all items that are not upgrades to me I should be deconstructing them and just crafting w/ them?

For the equipment crafting skills you earn a lot more inspiration (crafting XP) from deconstructing items (items that you didn't make yourself, anyway) than you do from crafting items, so decon everything that you're not going to wear or use for trait research. Unless it's ornate - if it's ornate you're probably better off vendoring it.

Greenseer · February 2017

UrQuan wrote: »

Yeah, if nothing else, start researching traits as early as possible. If I were you I'd also start doing the equipment crafting as soon as possible, because leveling goes so much easier with crafted gear sets. Provisioning and alchemy are easy to level at any time, and aren't super important while you're leveling. Enchanting is the longest grind for leveling a crafting skill, so you might as well start deconstructing every glyph you find now, even if you don't bother putting any skill points into any of the enchanting passives.

well damn, here I thought I'd be ok in just leveling/questing and then doing that...

Thanks gentlemen for your advise! very appreciated. and anyone else who chimes in as well thanks! any opinions is worth reading.

Katahdin · February 2017

Two words: researching traits

Takes forever. Start that as soon as possible.

Decon everything you pick up to help level the craft

GCypher87 · February 2017

In all honesty, I would recommend creating a crafter toon who's whole purpose is crafting. Level them to 50 then park them in Rawl'kha in Reapers March. It's the best spot for crafting IMO. Everything there, including the bank, is close by.

What I did is just throw everything equip/rune that wasn't Ornate in the bank. Pop onto crafter, research what was available, lock things that could still be researched, decon everything else.

The problem with crafting on a main is if you want to do it all it's 102 skill points total without taking all the Keen Eye perks which are useless.

Ourorboros · February 2017

Agree with prior posts. Research now, decon now. Gather runes, raw mats, flowers, waters, food ingredients, recipes, but no need to advance Provisioning or Alchemy until around level 50. For the most part, use no skill points for any craft until you have plenty to spare. Exceptions are points in speeding research, keen eye if you have problem spotting mats, and extraction if you start refining raw mats (hope you have a craft bag).

There are tons of post for the specifics of HOW to level each craft. The WHY is to be self-sufficient, and now, to get a chance at Master Crafting writs.

ThePaleItalian · February 2017

Greenseer wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

Start researching now. It will pass as you level.
Decon all the intricate stuff you can to lvl your crafting skills.

You will probably be close to maxing stuff as you level. There are plenty of guides and options on how to do it. So it make your eyes do more than cross. Just take it slow.

So what I should be doing with all items that are not upgrades to me I should be deconstructing them and just crafting w/ them?

I would, sell ornate and decon the rest, mats are mats and keep them all because you can refine them for tempers and such that can sell for alot of gold. But wait until you get your skills up before doing that too much. Dont wanna miss out on the good stuff.

Once you get a system down its second nature and doesn't take long, plus if you take a break to "grind" your crafting skills it can help to break up game play. At least for me.

Greenseer · February 2017

Ourorboros wrote: »

Agree with prior posts. Research now, decon now. Gather runes, raw mats, flowers, waters, food ingredients, recipes, but no need to advance Provisioning or Alchemy until around level 50. For the most part, use no skill points for any craft until you have plenty to spare. Exceptions are points in speeding research, keen eye if you have problem spotting mats, and extraction if you start refining raw mats (hope you have a craft bag).

There are tons of post for the specifics of HOW to level each craft. The WHY is to be self-sufficient, and now, to get a chance at Master Crafting writs.

I actually added the ESO + today, but the crafting thing is a big chunk to chew when you first try to tamper with it, I've watched videos and the like, only 1 really broke things down so I could easily under stand it.

Thanks again for the help, I'm gonna get on the crafting leg of the game tonight and figure it out.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · February 2017

START RESEARCHING ASAP! It costs nothing but time. Be sure to start with the best traits on the armor and weapon types you see yourself using first.

Greenseer · February 2017

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

START RESEARCHING ASAP! It costs nothing but time. Be sure to start with the best traits on the armor and weapon types you see yourself using first.

and researching is about researching the traits of the weapon?'

Edit:

ahh I see, you sacrifice the weapon to research the trait. and it takes hours for it to be fully researched.

UrQuan · February 2017

Greenseer wrote: »

Ourorboros wrote: »

Agree with prior posts. Research now, decon now. Gather runes, raw mats, flowers, waters, food ingredients, recipes, but no need to advance Provisioning or Alchemy until around level 50. For the most part, use no skill points for any craft until you have plenty to spare. Exceptions are points in speeding research, keen eye if you have problem spotting mats, and extraction if you start refining raw mats (hope you have a craft bag).

There are tons of post for the specifics of HOW to level each craft. The WHY is to be self-sufficient, and now, to get a chance at Master Crafting writs.

I actually added the ESO + today, but the crafting thing is a big chunk to chew when you first try to tamper with it, I've watched videos and the like, only 1 really broke things down so I could easily under stand it.

Thanks again for the help, I'm gonna get on the crafting leg of the game tonight and figure it out.

Check out some of the guides by @MissBizz on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/missbizz
She's got crafting guides specifically intended for people who are brand new to it. They should make it easy to understand.

MissBizz · February 2017

Saw UrQuan pinged me so I thought I'd pop in! Yes, I try to REALLY break things down. Most of my guides now have an "extended" and "basic" version, so you'll want to watch the extended ones. Also check in the comments for questions people have asked previously. I try to answer all comments asap

Some of my extended guides are still old. The basics of crafting will still be the same, but some stuff may have changed. Good rule of thumb is if the audio suck and I have my webcam on the guide - it's an old one.

My advice if you don't want to deal with crafting yet... Start researching! It's literally takes months and months to learn all the traits.

Next bit of advice is decon all the gear you find! Even without putting any skill points into crafting, you can level up crafting a ton just by deconstructing stuff. This way when you get to level 50 and get some extra skill points you can just put them into crafting and bam already be done.. or close to.

If you don't want to, you can completely ignore alchemy and provisioning. If you just collect mats for now you can level them to max in literally an hour. Provisioning may be wise to take up though. Just learn recipes as you find them, and provisioning mats are plentiful. It's cheaper to make your own food (you need food to run dungeons) than to buy it.

[edit] Also, every time you research another trait on that weapon... The time doubles. So let's say you just researched training on sword and it took an hour.. when you go to research sharpened on sword.. it will take 2 hours.. the 3rd trait you research on sword will take 4 hours. The final trait takes something like 60 days to research.. but there's passives to reduce the time and cap it at 30

[EDIT2] Also, if you look in my signature there's a link that says "Video Beginner's Guide Directory". If you click that it brings you to a forum thread that I update with links to videos. So you can just look at "crafting" and then click on which crafting video you want to watch. It's probably easier to pick out specific videos on that forum thread than it is to find them in youtube playlists

ThePaleItalian · February 2017

Greenseer wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

START RESEARCHING ASAP! It costs nothing but time. Be sure to start with the best traits on the armor and weapon types you see yourself using first.

and researching is about researching the traits of the weapon?'

Edit:

ahh I see, you sacrifice the weapon to research the trait. and it takes hours for it to be fully researched.

Make sure you talk to @MissBizz about dragons in ESO. She absolutely loves those conversations, she will go on for hours.

Stopnaggin · February 2017

Research now, invest points into that passive if you are short on skill points. Researching takes the most amount of time so strating now will pay off.

A tip if you have access to a computer while playing make a spreadsheet with all the gear and traits, bank the ones you will need to research in the future. This will save you time later on. There are tons of premade sheets on Google docs, I made my own for personal preference reasons. I can link it on Google docs if you want a copy.

Shardaxx · February 2017

Start researching asap, decon some stuff especially the 280% bonus stuff, do it gradually and its fairly painless. Leave provisioning until you have a bunch of ingreds to use (from your own stash or a guild bank) you can level it from 1-50 in a 30 minute session or less.

Greenseer · February 2017

Well I'm not what you might call a smart man, but something tells me I better start researching.

Thanks everyone for your input and I'll for sure check out your guides!

Gandrhulf_Harbard · February 2017

If you want to have a serious go at Crafting you need - as other have advised - to crack on with research as soon as you can, you need to gather Craft Level appropriate mats as often as you can.

However, it is unfortunate for you that you have joined the game when Crafting is at its least useful and most grindy.

All The Best

Greenseer · February 2017

Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »

If you want to have a serious go at Crafting you need - as other have advised - to crack on with research as soon as you can, you need to gather Craft Level appropriate mats as often as you can.

However, it is unfortunate for you that you have joined the game when Crafting is at its least useful and most grindy.

All The Best

I'm not overly concerned about it, I don't mind working on things like this. Unless they add a "catch up" mechanic in the expansion I'd have to do this any way now or then, I guess I might have a type of OCD when it comes to this sort of stuff, I can rest my mind till I've got it figured out at least.

Ourorboros · February 2017

Greenseer wrote: »

Well I'm not what you might call a smart man, but something tells me I better start researching.

Thanks everyone for your input and I'll for sure check out your guides!

You can use up a lot of bag space saving items for research. I suggest you just save a few choice items. By buying items when a slot is nearly open/open, you save bag space and the hassle of trying to figure out if it's okay to decon an item with a needed trait. It's easy to get get items for research. They are sold in guild stores (Awesome Guild Store makes it easy to find them), Guild members will often make all but nirnhone for free. You can ask in chat and get a response if you offer some gold (250-500). Do the important traits first: Divines followed by Infused for armor. For weapons, Sharpened, followed by Precise or Defending for most weapons. Tracking research is a pain without Addons (as you'll see if not on PC). I recommend Craftstore, and Wykkyd's Toolbar for it's HUD research timers, and so much more.