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so i bought a new rig because of all the lag issues and

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and what a difference it made. the game is beautiful. i m running on ultra setting no lag my framerate in busy ares runs over 40 and normally 50-70 and sometimes higher. and my goodness it is beautiful thank ZOS for such an awesome looking game. Going to check out eq2 they were ahead of the curve on graphics and i want to see what that game looks like at high settings. just wow.
  • leipatemeibbaa
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    Try play 4k and get into a MOLrun with max out setting and tell me what FPS you have when you get down to the room with Rakkhat.
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    whats an MOL run. is it pvp
  • Paulington
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    Try play 4k and get into a MOLrun with max out setting and tell me what FPS you have when you get down to the room with Rakkhat.

    Erm, I manage about 25-30 FPS on HM Rakkhat running 4K @ max settings which is still plenty playable.

    Outside of Trials it's a constant 60+ FPS, even in cities.
  • mikeabboudb14_ESO
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    it was nice to finally see the game fully
  • Mitoice
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    I manage to get 55 FPS on MOL with 4k... But im running a 1070 nvidia SLI with i7......so its expected...

    And yea... Its god damn beautiful!!!!!!
  • Mitoice
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    Havent seen another MMO more beautiful graphically than ESO...
  • UrQuan
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    whats an MOL run. is it pvp
    Maw of Lorkhaj. It's a 12-man trial that was introduced with the Thieves Guild DLC.
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  • Mitoice
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    After going 4k... You cannot go back to 1080p..... Thats my problem... I pray everyday that my SLI doesnt get broken.... Cause i cant afford another SLI 1070, but i cannot longer play the game on regular quality...
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  • MasterSpatula
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    Yeah, I bought a new video card back in December, and wow, did I ever see improvement.

    After everyone started farming Dolmens at 1T release, the experience had become nothing but particle effects and Seconds Per Frame for me. New video card and everything was smooth as a baby's tuchus.
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  • stevepdodson_ESO888
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    Paulington wrote: »
    Try play 4k and get into a MOLrun with max out setting and tell me what FPS you have when you get down to the room with Rakkhat.

    Erm, I manage about 25-30 FPS on HM Rakkhat running 4K @ max settings which is still plenty playable.

    Outside of Trials it's a constant 60+ FPS, even in cities.

    i think the fact that you can do your run at 25-30 FPS makes it even more impressive...hats off to you sir
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    whats an MOL run. is it pvp

    Sometimes it is. Get a bomb in the Rakkhat fight and see how many played you can one shot.
    Edited by idk on February 15, 2017 6:25PM
  • Sunver
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    I cant run at 1080p@60fps with medium settings on a 10 year old rig. Is something wrong with my system?
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  • Dantonian_Rarstiana
    Have you even played any other games?
    ESO is one of the ugliest games on the market.
    That is usually acceptable because they run better on poorer machines, but this games threading is almost non-existent. Even when you edit the usersettings.txt to force it to use more than 6 cores, it still piles 90% of the work load on just 1 core.

    This game is hideous by todays standards.

    You decide. Which one looks better. They are both MMO's on the market today.
    Go ahead and click on them to zoom in. I'll wait.
    eso-stealth.jpg
    bdo2.jpg
    Edited by Dantonian_Rarstiana on February 15, 2017 6:31PM
  • Remag_Div
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    Paulington wrote: »
    Try play 4k and get into a MOLrun with max out setting and tell me what FPS you have when you get down to the room with Rakkhat.

    Erm, I manage about 25-30 FPS on HM Rakkhat running 4K @ max settings which is still plenty playable.

    Outside of Trials it's a constant 60+ FPS, even in cities.

    60+fps in cities at 4K? What kind of rig do you have? I run 1440p maxed with a 1080 and i7 6800K and my fps tanks in heavy populated areas, usually dipping to as low as 30fps.

    I wish this game wasn't so CPU heavy, and even then like someone mentioned it doesn't even take advantage of multi-core for the most part.
  • Remag_Div
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    Have you even played any other games?
    ESO is one of the ugliest games on the market.
    That is usually acceptable because they run better on poorer machines, but this games threading is almost non-existent. Even when you edit the usersettings.txt to force it to use more than 6 cores, it still piles 90% of the work load on just 1 core.

    This game is hideous by todays standards.

    You decide. Which one looks better. They are both MMO's on the market today.
    Go ahead and click on them to zoom in. I'll wait.
    eso-stealth.jpg
    bdo2.jpg

    Way to cherry pick those screenshots, though.

    I'm not arguing that BDO looks fantastic for an MMO. Probably the best graphics for an MMO to date, but your ESO shot is intended to look bad at 1080p while that BDO shot is at 4K.

    ESO maxed out at 1440p or 4K can look stunning at times depending on the location of the game. Delves and dungeons can look especially good.
  • magictucktuck
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    Have you even played any other games?
    ESO is one of the ugliest games on the market.
    That is usually acceptable because they run better on poorer machines, but this games threading is almost non-existent. Even when you edit the usersettings.txt to force it to use more than 6 cores, it still piles 90% of the work load on just 1 core.

    This game is hideous by todays standards.

    You decide. Which one looks better. They are both MMO's on the market today.
    Go ahead and click on them to zoom in. I'll wait.
    eso-stealth.jpg
    bdo2.jpg



    Maybe I'm wrong but the other mmo does not look like and ingame screenshot more like a drawing. Regardless if it is or not what game is it?
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  • ThePaleItalian
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    Have you even played any other games?
    ESO is one of the ugliest games on the market.
    That is usually acceptable because they run better on poorer machines, but this games threading is almost non-existent. Even when you edit the usersettings.txt to force it to use more than 6 cores, it still piles 90% of the work load on just 1 core.

    This game is hideous by todays standards.

    You decide. Which one looks better. They are both MMO's on the market today.
    Go ahead and click on them to zoom in. I'll wait.
    eso-stealth.jpg
    bdo2.jpg

    Can you show me WoW and SW as well? Just curios. BDO is a very pretty game, but you need to do a better job convincing me. I'll wait
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  • Zewks
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    BDO looks mind blowingly great in screenshots, but AWFUL in motion. There is SOOOO much pop-in the game might as well be one of those lego games where stuff is being built around you as you move.

    Visual appeal doesnt have to mean having every cutting edge rendering process turn on in a game either. ESO has its own visual appeal. Its easy to look at, appealing in its own way, and absent of many of the annoying and ugly issues that plague those games that seem to want to recreate real life (such as pop-in) Its very easy to immerse myself in ESO's world because its so visually accessible. BDO on the other hand, im immediately reminded its a computer game when rocks, trees, grass, shadows, etc start popping in and out as I move around.


    To the OP... im curious what your FPS is during battles in Cyrodiil, and what your new hardware specs are. Ive been thinking of upgrading myself.
    Edited by Zewks on February 15, 2017 7:33PM
  • SydneyGrey
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    You decide. Which one looks better. They are both MMO's on the market today.
    eso-stealth.jpg
    Sorry, but my ESO looks better than what you're showing on the screenshot. I'm playing on a PC with a great graphics card, though, not on console. I've heard it looks a bit worse on console, and it obviously would look worse with lower-end graphics cards. I don't have a console version to compare them, but I've seen people post who have both, and they said the graphics look slightly worse on some consoles. (Don't know which ones.)

    If you're on PC, then maybe your graphics card is crap.

    Edited by SydneyGrey on February 15, 2017 7:39PM
  • WalkingLegacy
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    Lag issues = fps issues???

    Anyways, ESO looks pretty good at 4K but yes the modified hero engine runs like a dog with diarrhea.

    Would be nice if Morrowind brought more eye candy and better performance from the engine.
  • Remag_Div
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    And now time for actual flattering shots of ESO:

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  • idk
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    Have you even played any other games?
    ESO is one of the ugliest games on the market.
    That is usually acceptable because they run better on poorer machines, but this games threading is almost non-existent. Even when you edit the usersettings.txt to force it to use more than 6 cores, it still piles 90% of the work load on just 1 core.

    This game is hideous by todays standards.

    You decide. Which one looks better. They are both MMO's on the market today.
    Go ahead and click on them to zoom in. I'll wait.
    eso-stealth.jpg
    bdo2.jpg

    @Dantonian_Rarstiana

    Something just looks odd about the second image. Also pulling an image from night and comparing it to a daytime image is a ooot comparison.

    Als, kinda question is comparable graphics settings were used since ESO @ 4K is smooth.
  • Zewks
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    the modified hero engine runs like a dog with diarrhea.

    perhaps you should read this

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/168715/upon-what-engine-is-eso-built

  • Dantonian_Rarstiana
    Lag issues = fps issues???

    Anyways, ESO looks pretty good at 4K but yes the modified hero engine runs like a dog with diarrhea.

    Would be nice if Morrowind brought more eye candy and better performance from the engine.

    ESO does NOT look good at higher resolutions.
    I have a very high end machine.
    I run a 2k ultrawide monitor (3440 x 1440).
    All it means is I can see the ugly low poly models even more clearly.

    To make this game bearable I run both the Hook64 graphics enhancer and a Reshade and SweetFX preset.

    But even with all that, my GPU (gtx1080) only ever gets its usage up to 50%.
    my GPU usage drops in a trial or pvp down to about 17% and my fps hits 15-30.
    Why you ask?
    Because as I stated before the threading is almost completely non-existent. 90% of all the cpu work gets done on a single core.
    That means my beast 12 core cpu can only utilize less than 10% of its maximum power for this game.
    Its a ridiculous bottleneck for a modern game.

    and to answer the people asking em to compare ESO With other ugly MMOs like WoW, I would direct you to read what I said again. Being ugly is fine because you can run it on older machines. ESO looks ugly and still wont run on older machines.

    Here is what ESO looks like on my PC.

    As I said. the base game is repulsive.

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  • Dantonian_Rarstiana
    ESO is soooo gorgeous.
    just look at all that fog.
    Much graphics
    Such Pixels
    Wow

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    Aaaand modded to hell and back again
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    Edited by Dantonian_Rarstiana on February 15, 2017 8:12PM
  • Dantonian_Rarstiana
    Zewks wrote: »
    the modified hero engine runs like a dog with diarrhea.

    perhaps you should read this

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/168715/upon-what-engine-is-eso-built

    That thread is cancer.
    I stopped reading when someone said the engine must be hero engine cause the jumping feels floaty like SWtoR.
    The only thing a game engine does is manage your resources. That's it. Nothing else.
    Please take a look at your individual core utilization while playing ESO.
    you might be surprised at what you find.
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    Lag issues = fps issues???

    Anyways, ESO looks pretty good at 4K but yes the modified hero engine runs like a dog with diarrhea.

    Would be nice if Morrowind brought more eye candy and better performance from the engine.

    ESO does NOT look good at higher resolutions.
    I have a very high end machine.
    I run a 2k ultrawide monitor (3440 x 1440).
    All it means is I can see the ugly low poly models even more clearly.

    To make this game bearable I run both the Hook64 graphics enhancer and a Reshade and SweetFX preset.

    But even with all that, my GPU (gtx1080) only ever gets its usage up to 50%.
    my GPU usage drops in a trial or pvp down to about 17% and my fps hits 15-30.
    Why you ask?
    Because as I stated before the threading is almost completely non-existent. 90% of all the cpu work gets done on a single core.
    That means my beast 12 core cpu can only utilize less than 10% of its maximum power for this game.
    Its a ridiculous bottleneck for a modern game.

    and to answer the people asking em to compare ESO With other ugly MMOs like WoW, I would direct you to read what I said again. Being ugly is fine because you can run it on older machines. ESO looks ugly and still wont run on older machines.

    Here is what ESO looks like on my PC.

    As I said. the base game is repulsive.

    12716229_10208851244864441_7704025919570300140_o.jpg?oh=2170c4b12c0a51992c1dec220dde559d&oe=59329D7F

    there is something horribly wrong with your "Beast" of a machine.

    The game looks nothing like that on mine. Your screenshots make WiiU graphics look good. Maybe its all the things you are running in addition to the game that are making it look awful. IE: Your reshade settings may just suck really bad.

    On closer inspection, your reshade config is most certainly messing with the visuals in that screenshot. The textures are nearly gone from many of the objects, which can easily be done by tweaking things in reshade to provide a pseudo "cell shaded" look.
    Edited by Zewks on February 15, 2017 8:23PM
  • Gandrhulf_Harbard
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    ESO does NOT look good at higher resolutions.
    I have a very high end machine.
    I run a 2k ultrawide monitor (3440 x 1440).
    All it means is I can see the ugly low poly models even more clearly....

    I am running ESO on a mid-high end rig (it was high end 20 odd months ago) and mine looks 10 times better than either of the ESO screenshots you have posted.

    I suggest this is a "learn to optimise setup" issue - because the ESO images you posted do not even remotely resemble what I see. Mine looks very much like the images posted by @Remag_Div

    And the BDO screeny is awful with all the unrendered NPC models barely 10 feet away - gods, if I bought a game and it looked that bad I'd ask for my money back.

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    Edited by Gandrhulf_Harbard on February 15, 2017 8:32PM
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  • Remag_Div
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    Here is what ESO looks like on my PC.

    As I said. the base game is repulsive.

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    I dunno what you did, but your game looks way uglier than mine.
    Edited by Remag_Div on February 15, 2017 8:32PM
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