Upon What Engine is ESO Built?
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I know it's an engine that ZOS developed from the ground up just for ESO, but what do they call it? What is its name?
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Micallef✭✭✭Good place to start http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/499331#Comment_499331
I remember another discussion involving Havoc where it was mentioned that it was used only in early development while they were busy writing their own engine.
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Zazaaji✭✭✭✭HeroEngine.
Go to Google, type in ESO Engine
More info: http://elderscrollsonline.info/news/about-game-engine
Separate physics engine called Havok.Edited by Zazaaji on April 30, 2015 5:02AMEnglish is not my first language, Finnish is.
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✭At the very beginning they used HeroEngine. But then they decided to create a new engine from scratch.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/05/25/why-the-elder-scrolls-online-isn-39-t-using-heroengine.aspx0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes... and they must have named it something.What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
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✭Heavily modified HeroEngine. You can tell because it has a lot of the same bugs and weird quirks found in SWTORReally we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.3 -
drschplatt✭✭✭✭I know it's an engine that ZOS developed from the ground up just for ESO, but what do they call it? What is its name?
"Tears of Shattered Children of Lag Engine"
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✭Modified version of hero engine. Used the base engine for prototyping then "created" their own.Allow cross-platform transfers and merges1 -
RainfeatherUK✭✭✭✭If it still had hero engine components integrated, they would have to show that as they did before. Its illegal not to, right down to the base code of the engine.
ESO looked massively different in the early days under hero, for those of us around who can remember it all. From artwork, concepts, prototypes and otherwise. Its come along long way since back then.
It uses many of the associated middle-ware features that other mmo's do. Havok being one of those. But as for resembling the swtor's fiasco, far from it.
Naysayers will have you believe otherwise, but it is a homebuilt engine. Lets just call it ESOengine. Unless they sell it commercially, it doesnt need an external/out of house title.Edited by RainfeatherUK on April 30, 2015 10:17AM2 -
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✭They do show it, in the installer. Also they don't HAVE to, swtor doesn't irrcAllow cross-platform transfers and merges0 -
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✭Doesnt they use a other form of the own Creation Engine?#makemagickadkgreataigan
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✭Lag-O-Master 3000 nobody builds lag better...LOLEdited by kevlarto_ESO on April 30, 2015 12:42PM2 -
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This is correct.Good place to start http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/499331#Comment_499331
I remember another discussion involving Havoc where it was mentioned that it was used only in early development while they were busy writing their own engine..
Havok is credited simply because it was used during early development as a stand-in for the engine being written in-house.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/102820/eso-using-hero-engine-and-havok-seriously-you-lied-to-us/p1ZOS_TristanK wrote: »Hi, folks. When we began development for ESO, we licensed the HeroEngine so that we could hit the ground running. We used it as a tool for things like area prototypes and design concepts so that we could begin honing the art style. HeroEngine was our whiteboard: a great tool to put our ideas in the game and seeing them while the production engine was in development.
/threadEdited by fromtesonlineb16_ESO on April 30, 2015 12:49PM3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Whatever they are doing...other than the bugs which are being worked out...it went pretty well for consoles but not so hot for PC. Each has some of the same bugs tho
Havoc is listed in the console splash but not sure as others point out IF that's the one so to soeakEdited by NewBlacksmurf on April 30, 2015 1:51PM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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✭✭✭✭✭I assume Havok is still used, since it's still on the splash screen, and that handles the physics. Then they have their in-house engine which does the graphics rendering, audio processing, and such like.UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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✭✭✭✭✭Not /thread @fromtesonlineb16_ESO. That doesn't answer what they call their engine. They built it from the ground up. Cool. Does it have a name?
Personally I like to think it's something Elder Scrolls related. Like the CHIM Engine.What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
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✭The elder engine
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✭Well if ZOS created their own engine for ESO that explains a lot of the issues that are still here from launch. The other engines must not have been able to do what they were trying for ESO. Otherwise it would be a complete waste of development resources to not build off an existing one and create something new.NA Server - Kildair0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I Quite like The Elder Engine @Sotha_SilWhat ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
That's right... Horse.
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✭✭✭ESO is built on a custom, in house engine. In its early development Hero engine was used for prototyping and some early work but it was realized that it didn't meet Zenimax's requirements, so they shifted to a proprietary platform. While some middleware is used for subsystems (havok is leveraged for some physics and collision detection for example, and was enabled a brief time before the game launched through today), the game isn't built on top of any specific platform. If you Google around you can find some very old tech discussion interviews laying out this story. More recently, post launch, FaceFX integration was added to improve characters' facial morphs and animations in line with their voiceovers, as well.
For the curious, here is the FaceFX site: http://www.facefx.com/Edited by Attorneyatlawl on April 30, 2015 7:45PM-First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
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✭kevlarto_ESO wrote: »Lag-O-Master 3000 nobody builds lag better...LOL
Yeah, but they're hoping to fix all the problems by upgrading to the Lag-O-Master 4000 engine this fall.0 -
RSram✭✭✭✭✭...The other engines must not have been able to do what they were trying for ESO....
Like run on MS DOS?
Although ESO looks pretty, it's engine doesn't do anything that I can see better than any of the previously mentioned game engines. I been playing since beta and I see nothing ground breaking or earth shattering in the game engine that I haven't seen five years ago!
I turn the grass off because I it drives me crazy then I turn my character and see the grass rotate: That's 1990's sprite technology. I think sprites are used for all of the 3D effects; I'm not saying this is bad, but if your going to take this approach to increase performance, then why is there so many uses with frame rate issues?
There is no real physics in this game! When I kill a NPC on the edge of a cliff, their corpse just floats in mid air. Ragdoll physics do not exist in this game.
What ever game engine is being used, it's network code needs an overhaul; including the server farm hardware.
Finally, some of you who read my previous post, know that I like to circumvent the invisible walls around the zones and so far I haven't found a zone that I couldn't conquer, but it's interesting that once I walk into an uninitialized zone with no NPC's, players, and other interact-able props. my frame rate jumps from 40 to 60 FPS on a Geforce 680 (4 GB VRAM) at 2560 x 1440 with every graphics option turned on to the max settings. Note that my graphics card VRAM is never overloaded even in crowded cities, so I have to assume that there is another issue causing the jerkiness and latency that a lot of player's are experiencing.
One other point: You usually modify a game engine to enhance the game, not to travel back in time to the 1990's!5
