Read really good things, want to come back. Help decide a Healer Race/Class.
What can I chose?
I know templars are supposed to be healers, what race does go with it? I know some people will say whatever you want, but if my racial gives me Stamina regen and I all do is spam magicka, then I'm just wasting a racial passive.
Minmaxin can't be avoided up to a certain point, so I'd like help in choosing a race and why is that race better.
I do not know any of the expansions. I'm coming back to play from scratch and eventually buy the xpac or just sub
I know templars are supposed to be healers, what race does go with it? I know some people will say whatever you want, but if my racial gives me Stamina regen and I all do is spam magicka, then I'm just wasting a racial passive.
Minmaxin can't be avoided up to a certain point, so I'd like help in choosing a race and why is that race better.
I do not know any of the expansions. I'm coming back to play from scratch and eventually buy the xpac or just sub
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✭✭✭✭✭If you're trying to get the best out of the class then you want one of the magicka based classes, or Argonian for the bonus healing.
Be aware that high tier players normally expect a healer to DPS to some extent as well which may make Argonian less appealing as it doesn't have a racial to help that.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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✭When in doubt, Imperial.
If you know you're going mag, your choice is narrowed to high elf, Breton, dunmer.1 -
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✭My healer is a Breton Templar with 5 piece Spellpower Cure and 5 piece Worm's raiment. I suppose I'm a bit biased in saying this, but that's a pretty solid setup/choice.PC - NA @LadyLavina 1800+ CP PvP Tank and PvP Healer1 -
If you're trying to get the best out of the class then you want one of the magicka based classes, or Argonian for the bonus healing.
Be aware that high tier players normally expect a healer to DPS to some extent as well which may make Argonian less appealing as it doesn't have a racial to help that.
So High Elf is a good choice? If I'm expected to DPS then I need something to help me with that as well.
I don't like Argonians, so I'm ruling them out. They look ugly for my taste.0 -
Dark_Aether✭✭✭✭If you cannot decide, Dunmer is the way to go
- 9% max mag for mag dps, healing
- 6% max stam for stam dps, tanking
- Extra fire dmg that synergies well will fire staff/abilities or Red Mountain for stam1 -
caperon✭✭✭✭Id go high elf if you want to dps sometimes or argonian for pure healer. Argonian have hp bonus that is very useful when you need to wear 7 light armor pieces.0 -
CasNation✭✭✭✭✭Breton will be the best pure healer due to cost reduction.
Altmer or dunmer will be functionally best do to the expectation that healers contribute some dps. Altmer is probably better than dunmer due to regen passive.PC NA AD
Gamma Fyr: Dunmer Sorcerer Stamina DPS (the Missing Sister...props to those who get the reference)
Samekh Fyr: Dunmer Nightblade Magicka DPS
Claire Le'Rouge: Breton Templar Heal/Tank (the Resplendent Bastion)
Augustus Constantine: Imperial Nightblade PvP (Blackwater Bandit)
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Breton will be the best pure healer due to cost reduction.
Altmer or dunmer will be functionally best do to the expectation that healers contribute some dps. Altmer is probably better than dunmer due to regen passive.
I'm gonna go Altmer then. Let's see how fun it is. Will also help with leveling and I hope I'm good enough for dungeons because I really enjoy PvE more than PvP.0 -
SolarCat02✭✭✭✭✭Any magicka race will work, depending on what you are looking for!
Altmer - boost to max magicka and magicka recovery, small boost to all elemental attacks. Versatile magicka class.
Dunmer - boost to max magicka and smaller boost to max stamina, defense from fire, boost to fire damage. Good for vampires and fire mages.
Breton - boost to max magicka, spell resistance, and reduced magicka costs. Was undisputed min/max pure healer race of choice until Argonian update.
Argonian - boost to max magicka, all resource return when drinking any potion, boost to max health, disease resistant, boost to healing done and received. Good for healer, saptank, or healtank.Why be normal when you can be better?
Elissandra Ravenwing, Magicka Dragonknight Healer
Lady Kalila, Stamina Templar DPS
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SolarCat02 wrote: »Any magicka race will work, depending on what you are looking for!
Altmer - boost to max magicka and magicka recovery, small boost to all elemental attacks. Versatile magicka class.
Dunmer - boost to max magicka and smaller boost to max stamina, defense from fire, boost to fire damage. Good for vampires and fire mages.
Breton - boost to max magicka, spell resistance, and reduced magicka costs. Was undisputed min/max pure healer race of choice until Argonian update.
Argonian - boost to max magicka, all resource return when drinking any potion, boost to max health, disease resistant, boost to healing done and received. Good for healer, saptank, or healtank.
Yeah. I might love the concept of a Orc Healer/Shaman, but reality is won't be as good as others and its racial passives don't help at all.
Bretons might be a good choice too, the costs reduction looks really interesting.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭When in doubt about race, use this simple formula to decide:
Tails > no tails
Khajiit is to stamina as argonian is to magicka.
PS4 / NA
M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
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Serjustin19✭✭✭✭✭PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »
High Elf is a good choice.uriangelub17_ESO wrote: »If you're trying to get the best out of the class then you want one of the magicka based classes, or Argonian for the bonus healing.
Be aware that high tier players normally expect a healer to DPS to some extent as well which may make Argonian less appealing as it doesn't have a racial to help that.
So High Elf is a good choice? If I'm expected to DPS then I need something to help me with that as well.
I don't like Argonians, so I'm ruling them out. They look ugly for my taste.
Very, very good choice. High Elf. I agree. Ever since my first High Elf. Named. Lady of the Wailing Isles. She my very first High Elf. Vampire. Magicka Full PvP Templar.
I loved High Elf So much. Especially for healing and non healing. I made 2 more Highelfs. Named. Sir Justy The Confused ( Not a Healer) (Sorc DPS) and another High Elf. Named. High Lady Dragonfire. Who is also a Vampire. Magicka Full PvP Healer Templar.
However if you want to use a High Elf. The 3rd ability will be usless. From High Elf Skill line. I don't mind this at all though. But can easily be fixed. If you have a destro staff. As a second bar.
However to me. High Elf will always beat Argornian. Sure Argornian can heal better. But High Elf's will always outlast Argornian's. Due to fact of Magicka Recovery. Magicka Recovery is great. Especially in Long hard fights. If you play PvP.
So in a way. I fully support High Elfs. In my opinion though. To me also. Both High elf, Breton and Argornian are all good for healers also. So
1. High Elf ( Magicka Recovery: great for long battles. Especially in PvP)
2. Argornian: (Good Healer. Beat High Elf. But High Elf will beat Argornians in Fight. But if you PvE. Then Pick Argornian)
3. Breton( reduce spell cost. I heard make good tanks. Good for PvE also)
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✭I use Breton because the benefits of Max Magicka, Spell Resistance and Reduced Cost; the light armour exp bonus is also great.
Argonians are meh. As a Breton Templar healer you will already do enough healing with 100 CP into blessed and rest into Elemental Expert (increases healing even more.... says damage but it's wrong as it does healing too).
Then you want to run Spell Power Cure, always, and Either one of these:
Worm's Raiments, if in a magicka group, or trials. If someone else is using it, there are the options below;
Twilight Remedy;
Lunar Blessing;
And if unable, then Seducer is ok, and Sanctuary until you can get those sets. IMO, sanctuary is overrated.Edited by Blackbird_V on February 14, 2017 4:08PMDifficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 25 DLCs. 41 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Our trial healers all say they prefer Breton when pure healing. If you want to DPS as well go Altmer, and if you want to go straight damage on a Templar then Dunmer is a hair better.
Also, if healing is your primary role, then Templar is a no-brainer for now. Warden class could certainly change that.Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on February 14, 2017 4:11PM1 -
flizomica✭✭✭✭✭Argonian, breton, and altmer are all equally viable healers. For endgame progression trial runs you want to be a templar.
Gear-wise, spell power cure is a must. One healer should be in worm and the other in infallible aether IF you don't have at least 4 sorcs in a raid or on the first two bosses of vAA. Otherwise use mending.0 -
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✭✭I'd pick an Altmer. In the long run it's the best option.
Argonians come second. Other options are sub-par.Profanity filter is a crime against the freedom of speech. Also gags.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭"Help decide a Healer Race/Class"
Keep in mind that magicka based characters are much better healers than stamina based. The only skill in game that might be considered "healing" based on stamina is "Vigor" (Alliance War skill line). But even if maxed it is much more weaker than restoration staff healing. - bottom line:
If you are going to be a healer you have to be magicka based.
As for the race choice for healer:
1. Argonian - healing + being more "tanky"
2. Altmer - healing + being more "DPS"
3. Breton - similar to Altmer
As for the class you can pick:
1. Templar
2. Nighblade (yes NB can be actually a good healer).
If you want you can also wait for Warden, because (at least on paper) warden is probably going to be a good healer.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭uriangelub17_ESO wrote: »
It'll work live every race will work. The 2-3% of min-maxing are nice for min-maxers but totally neglectable for everybody else.Edited by Seraphayel on February 14, 2017 4:37PMPS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -0 -
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Well, if we're talking viable then every race is viable for a healer. I've got a Redguard templar who has healed every vet dungeon, and non-vet trials (no vet trials with him yet because I'm still a relative noob when it comes to trials), and I've never had any complaints about him, despite the fact that Redguard is probably one of the worst choices for a healer.uriangelub17_ESO wrote: »
But you're not really looking for viable, you're looking for a race that is better than average as a healer. For that I'd say that the best is a tie between Argonian, Breton, and Altmer, with the best one coming down to personal preference (based in large part on playstyle). I see that you've decided on Altmer. It's a really good choice for a healer, and I highly doubt you'll regret it.
Someone stole my sweetrollCaius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp0 -
Well, if we're talking viable then every race is viable for a healer. I've got a Redguard templar who has healed every vet dungeon, and non-vet trials (no vet trials with him yet because I'm still a relative noob when it comes to trials), and I've never had any complaints about him, despite the fact that Redguard is probably one of the worst choices for a healer.uriangelub17_ESO wrote: »
But you're not really looking for viable, you're looking for a race that is better than average as a healer. For that I'd say that the best is a tie between Argonian, Breton, and Altmer, with the best one coming down to personal preference (based in large part on playstyle). I see that you've decided on Altmer. It's a really good choice for a healer, and I highly doubt you'll regret it.
Now all I have to read is about crafting and how it works!
Thanks everyone for the help, really active community in here!0 -
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If you're brand new to crafting @MissBizz has some good beginners guides. I would find links for you, but I can't youtube at work.uriangelub17_ESO wrote: »
Well, if we're talking viable then every race is viable for a healer. I've got a Redguard templar who has healed every vet dungeon, and non-vet trials (no vet trials with him yet because I'm still a relative noob when it comes to trials), and I've never had any complaints about him, despite the fact that Redguard is probably one of the worst choices for a healer.uriangelub17_ESO wrote: »
But you're not really looking for viable, you're looking for a race that is better than average as a healer. For that I'd say that the best is a tie between Argonian, Breton, and Altmer, with the best one coming down to personal preference (based in large part on playstyle). I see that you've decided on Altmer. It's a really good choice for a healer, and I highly doubt you'll regret it.
Now all I have to read is about crafting and how it works!
Thanks everyone for the help, really active community in here!
Someone stole my sweetrollCaius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
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If you're brand new to crafting @MissBizz has some good beginners guides. I would find links for you, but I can't youtube at work.uriangelub17_ESO wrote: »
Well, if we're talking viable then every race is viable for a healer. I've got a Redguard templar who has healed every vet dungeon, and non-vet trials (no vet trials with him yet because I'm still a relative noob when it comes to trials), and I've never had any complaints about him, despite the fact that Redguard is probably one of the worst choices for a healer.uriangelub17_ESO wrote: »
But you're not really looking for viable, you're looking for a race that is better than average as a healer. For that I'd say that the best is a tie between Argonian, Breton, and Altmer, with the best one coming down to personal preference (based in large part on playstyle). I see that you've decided on Altmer. It's a really good choice for a healer, and I highly doubt you'll regret it.
Now all I have to read is about crafting and how it works!
Thanks everyone for the help, really active community in here!
@UrQuan It's real easy youtube.com/MissBizz
Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord0 -
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Pfft, I can't be expected to know if that would be you or some other MissBizz...
If you're brand new to crafting @MissBizz has some good beginners guides. I would find links for you, but I can't youtube at work.uriangelub17_ESO wrote: »
Well, if we're talking viable then every race is viable for a healer. I've got a Redguard templar who has healed every vet dungeon, and non-vet trials (no vet trials with him yet because I'm still a relative noob when it comes to trials), and I've never had any complaints about him, despite the fact that Redguard is probably one of the worst choices for a healer.uriangelub17_ESO wrote: »
But you're not really looking for viable, you're looking for a race that is better than average as a healer. For that I'd say that the best is a tie between Argonian, Breton, and Altmer, with the best one coming down to personal preference (based in large part on playstyle). I see that you've decided on Altmer. It's a really good choice for a healer, and I highly doubt you'll regret it.
Now all I have to read is about crafting and how it works!
Thanks everyone for the help, really active community in here!
@UrQuan It's real easy youtube.com/MissBizz
Someone stole my sweetrollCaius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
Svari Snake-Blood Nord DK (AD)Ashlyn D'Elyse Breton NB (EP)
Filindria Bosmer Temp (DC)
Vigbjorn the Wanderer Nord Warden (EP)
Hrokki Winterborn Breton Warden (DC)
Basks-in-the-Sunshine Argonian Temp0 -
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✭Dunmer. Always Dunmer.With cold regards,
Mythic
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Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
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