ESO Has Sold Another 1.5 Million Copies Since BE3 - 8.5+ Million Copies Sold

Dominoid · February 2017

At an Elder Scrolls Online press event, Matt Firor confirmed to our own Bill Murphy that the game is sporting 8.5 million players. At E3 2016, ESO had 7 million players and has grown by 1.5 million since then. This number is based off of units sold and is not simply a tally of registered accounts.

According to Firor, the population is split fairly evenly among all platforms. Currently, Elder Scrolls Online is available on PC, PlayStation 4 and XBox One.

http://www.mmorpg.com/elder-scrolls-online/news/matt-firor-85-million-eso-players-right-now-based-on-sales-1000043197

NewBlacksmurf · February 2017

WELP that answers it.

Now active players is another thing but we can see a lot that will lead to an understanding on consoles in the social console systems.

Now! units sold we have more info!!

DigitalShibby · February 2017

overpopulation in our digital lives as well lol.

Majic · February 2017

Great. More players to jack my nodes.

JinMori · February 2017

Many people are pissed by overpopulation, while they do not realize that the more money there is, the more resources there are. More developer, better servers, more active world etc.....

rotaugen454 · February 2017

More players to run group dungeons with. Cool!

olivesforge · February 2017

1.5 million box sales in 8 months? Even if none of them played for more than an hour, those are extremely impressive numbers for a 3-year old MMO.

Mojmir · February 2017

Mcdonalds has sold billions of "burgers", irony is the quality zo$ shares with this.

Grumble_and_Grunt · February 2017

Maybe they should invest back into their customer service teams they cut off a couple years back. The support system in this game is absolutely abysmal and ridden with just constant automated replies.

Tandor · February 2017

It's a great achievement, and well deserved given the present quality of the game. I can imagine the 10 million barrier being broken in June with Morrowind launching simultaneously on all platforms. Finally Blizzard have a real competitor!

Rohamad_Ali · February 2017

I believe it . I was trying to record some video in places usually vacant except a few new players and it was a full 3 ring circus in there with new players . I was grumpy at first but then realized it is good to see new players for the game so I got over it .

Kendo12 · February 2017

maybe they can improve the game then

Thelon · February 2017

grats zeni!

kyle.wilson · February 2017

Dominoid wrote: »

At an Elder Scrolls Online press event, Matt Firor confirmed to our own Bill Murphy that the game is sporting 8.5 million players. At E3 2016, ESO had 7 million players and has grown by 1.5 million since then. This number is based off of units sold and is not simply a tally of registered accounts.

According to Firor, the population is split fairly evenly among all platforms. Currently, Elder Scrolls Online is available on PC, PlayStation 4 and XBox One.

http://www.mmorpg.com/elder-scrolls-online/news/matt-firor-85-million-eso-players-right-now-based-on-sales-1000043197

Quoting a player base like that is only meaningful to shareholders. The active player base is what we would like. Because many people are counted twice for pc/console even though they are now only active on console after the release.
I could assume that the active "played within last month" to be significantly lower than that number.

NewBlacksmurf · February 2017

JinMori wrote: »

Many people are pissed by overpopulation, while they do not realize that the more money there is, the more resources there are. More developer, better servers, more active world etc.....

That's not at all how it works nor is that a logic based theory. Having better talent and eventually hiring more talent would lead to this but ZOS doesn't have $$ problems they have production and decision problems.

It's why they had actual players come up and play and mess with stuff while giving feedback for hours on end last week.

Balamoor · February 2017

But.....isn't ESO supposed to be a broken unfun train wreck?

The forums tell us daily (sometimes hourly) that Zos created a doomed abomination that is going to be shut down in disgrace any day now......I mean there is a death to ZoS Reddit and everything.

Guess someone forgot to tell 8.5 million people.

Oh! I bet that there is really only about a hundred actually playing and the rest quit because broken and greed right?

Or most of the forum whining is hyperbole.

Either or.....yeah.

Mojmir wrote: »

Mcdonalds has sold billions of "burgers", irony is the quality zo$ shares with this.

Rays of sunshine like this is what keeps the forums amusing.

RinaldoGandolphi · February 2017

8.5 million is copies sold not active players.

Old say 56-62% of those sales still play.

Not bad at all for a MMO they are making good money

Wifeaggro13 · February 2017

JinMori wrote: »

Many people are pissed by overpopulation, while they do not realize that the more money there is, the more resources there are. More developer, better servers, more active world etc.....

No these numbers actually kinda *** me off . Because exactly what you have stated is what the game should be doing. With that type 9f revenue stream to not have reinvested large amounts into new content rather then push a cash shop cosmetic content , and sell easy baked single player dlc's . It actually should kind off *** off the communtiy that has supported this game with subs .

Bobby_V_Rockit · February 2017

Nice

I like seeing an active world, I dont want to play with anyone, but it certainly adds atmosphere

AoDD33pfri3d · February 2017

Can't by units sold not a valid count, some people play on multiple consoles and what about the people that quit playing?

NewBlacksmurf · February 2017

@Balamoor

8.5 million copies sold isn't 8.5 million players.
Also buying something doesn't mean they played it or still play.

Selling copies doesn't mean the game is good or that it's not broken, it just means they sold 8.5 million copies

Cometo think of it...how many ppl own two copies
PC and Steam
PC and console
Console and console
Purchased game and later gold edition

hamgatan · February 2017

...and how many of those units sold = sold to the consumer?

It doesnt count if your metrics say youve sold x number through your distribution chains because distribution retain warehoused stock as do the eventual retailers.

How many of those 8.5 million are still sitting in a stock cabinet somewhere unsold? And how many units being counted as 'sold' are actually on consignment order..

kyle.wilson · February 2017

Maybe this'll clear some stuff up.
ESO has 8.5million copies sold.
COD Black OPS 3 had 25.68 miliion
COD Infinite Warfare. Which is a terrible game sold at levels about 50% of black ops 3. So about 13miilion.
A game that Activision Blizzard acknowledges was crap, sold more copies in a couple months than ESO has in almost 3 years.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/321374/global-all-time-unit-sales-call-of-duty-games/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/12/10/analysts-say-call-of-duty-infinite-warfare-retail-sales-are-down-nearly-50-from-black-ops-3/#4f7d5ef612cb

Mojmir · February 2017

Balamoor wrote: »

But.....isn't ESO supposed to be a broken unfun train wreck?

The forums tell us daily (sometimes hourly) that Zos created a doomed abomination that is going to be shut down in disgrace any day now......I mean there is a death to ZoS Reddit and everything.

Guess someone forgot to tell 8.5 million people.

Oh! I bet that there is really only about a hundred actually playing and the rest quit because broken and greed right?

Or most of the forum whining is hyperbole.

Either or.....yeah.

Mojmir wrote: »

Mcdonalds has sold billions of "burgers", irony is the quality zo$ shares with this.

Rays of sunshine like this is what keeps the forums amusing.

Aww,and the praise to zo$ is enough to keep it going then? There's always 2 sides,deal with it. Not everyone is blind and has lowered expectations. Post numbers of logins,issues,customer support disasters,better yet just go to the top and hit recent discussions and Take your pick.

NewBlacksmurf · February 2017

kyle.wilson wrote: »

Maybe this'll clear some stuff up.
ESO has 8.5million copies sold.
COD Black OPS 3 had 25.68 miliion
COD Infinite Warfare. which is by ad far a terrible game is about 50% of black ops 3. So about 13miilion.
A game that Activision Blizzard acknowledges was crap sold more copies in a couple months than ESO has in almost 3 years.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/321374/global-all-time-unit-sales-call-of-duty-games/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/12/10/analysts-say-call-of-duty-infinite-warfare-retail-sales-are-down-nearly-50-from-black-ops-3/#4f7d5ef612cb

That's the point of it all

One perspective ....or check tuesday for sales on For Honor and include both PS4 and Xbox One or a game like GTA V

t3hdubzy · February 2017

What is everyone trying to determine? People active or not doesnt affect the bottom line if they still purchased the title, or continue to be subbed.

Additionally its usually not an easy decision to spend a lot of money with no return on investment, because it cuts into profits and is a risk. The people making the profit arent usually customer facing.

hamgatan · February 2017

kyle.wilson wrote: »

Maybe this'll clear some stuff up.
ESO has 8.5million copies sold.
COD Black OPS 3 had 25.68 miliion
COD Infinite Warfare. Which is a terrible game sold at levels about 50% of black ops 3. So about 13miilion.
A game that Activision Blizzard acknowledges was crap sold more copies in a couple months than ESO has in almost 3 years.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/321374/global-all-time-unit-sales-call-of-duty-games/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/12/10/analysts-say-call-of-duty-infinite-warfare-retail-sales-are-down-nearly-50-from-black-ops-3/#4f7d5ef612cb

Unfair comparison though.. its marketed to a different audience for starters.. and Activision have almost unsurpassed expertise at gouging every last cent out of a franchise. ZOS dont come anywhere close in the spectrum of gouging.

I.e. Skylanders.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · February 2017

Balamoor wrote: »

Or most of the forum whining is hyperbole.

Either or.....yeah.

On the good side, you fit right in. Welcome home.

NewBlacksmurf · February 2017

hamgatan wrote: »

kyle.wilson wrote: »

Maybe this'll clear some stuff up.
ESO has 8.5million copies sold.
COD Black OPS 3 had 25.68 miliion
COD Infinite Warfare. Which is a terrible game sold at levels about 50% of black ops 3. So about 13miilion.
A game that Activision Blizzard acknowledges was crap sold more copies in a couple months than ESO has in almost 3 years.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/321374/global-all-time-unit-sales-call-of-duty-games/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/12/10/analysts-say-call-of-duty-infinite-warfare-retail-sales-are-down-nearly-50-from-black-ops-3/#4f7d5ef612cb

Unfair comparison though.. its marketed to a different audience for starters.. and Activision have almost unsurpassed expertise at gouging every last cent out of a franchise.

I.e. Skylanders.

It's very accurate. Same ppl who play console COD can also choose to play ESO.

It's good data to point out the reality that this game isn't doing that well in terms of sales but it's doing better than the forums suggest is all

That still bring up the idea that approx 500k-1 mil max play on each platform

That's not a lot

kyle.wilson · February 2017

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

kyle.wilson wrote: »

Maybe this'll clear some stuff up.
ESO has 8.5million copies sold.
COD Black OPS 3 had 25.68 miliion
COD Infinite Warfare. which is by ad far a terrible game is about 50% of black ops 3. So about 13miilion.
A game that Activision Blizzard acknowledges was crap sold more copies in a couple months than ESO has in almost 3 years.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/321374/global-all-time-unit-sales-call-of-duty-games/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/12/10/analysts-say-call-of-duty-infinite-warfare-retail-sales-are-down-nearly-50-from-black-ops-3/#4f7d5ef612cb

That's the point of it all

One perspective ....or check tuesday for sales on For Honor and include both PS4 and Xbox One or a game like GTA V

I had to use a roundabout way to get numbers for COD infinite warfare because I can't seem to find a direct sales figure. They only quote the decrease in sales vs Black OPs3. That's the advantage of a publicly traded company; the president can't lie to shareholders. They can misdirect, but a lie would put them in legal trouble. Something Zenimax has no concern with because they are a private company.

Mikoto · February 2017

kyle.wilson wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

kyle.wilson wrote: »

Maybe this'll clear some stuff up.
ESO has 8.5million copies sold.
COD Black OPS 3 had 25.68 miliion
COD Infinite Warfare. which is by ad far a terrible game is about 50% of black ops 3. So about 13miilion.
A game that Activision Blizzard acknowledges was crap sold more copies in a couple months than ESO has in almost 3 years.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/321374/global-all-time-unit-sales-call-of-duty-games/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/12/10/analysts-say-call-of-duty-infinite-warfare-retail-sales-are-down-nearly-50-from-black-ops-3/#4f7d5ef612cb

That's the point of it all

One perspective ....or check tuesday for sales on For Honor and include both PS4 and Xbox One or a game like GTA V

I had to use a roundabout way to get numbers for COD infinite warfare because I can't seem to find a direct sales figure. They only quote the decrease in sales vs Black OPs3. That's the advantage of a publicly traded company; the president can't lie to shareholders. They can misdirect, but a lie would put them in legal trouble. Something Zenimax has no concern with because they are a private company.

You're ignoring that Infinite Warfare was on sale for $1 as well.