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MYTHBUSTING Treasure Hunter..

  • runagate
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    SirAndy wrote: »
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    I got a painting from an Intermediate and a Master chest yesterday. I wonder if the passive improves the "level" of the paintings? The drop rate certainly seems ok given how many I've seen for sale in zone chat.

    Opened 50+ chests last night, 0 paintings ...
    sad.gif

    That's really, really messed up. Remind me in game and you can come look at mine and see if you want one. I used them mainly to label "exit" versus "courtyard" in my house, but since it's round I can't get em even remotely straight.
  • oibam
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    No matter what set you farm -> chests are the best way to go.
  • Vaoh
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Vaoh wrote: »

    Well you find both in Maw. You do open chests with locks on them, so I assume those are Treasure Chests? If so, they should benefit from the passive (I think...)

    @Vaoh

    Yep, if you unlock it, its a Treasure Chest. And, the loot tables for those should include the set items that drop in that trial, like the Group Dungeons have. So, yes, the Treasure Hunter Passive should work on those.

    YESS!!! Ty
  • Blackbird_V
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    Nestor wrote: »
    Vaoh wrote: »

    How would the Treasure Hunter passive change chest loot in Normal or Veteran Maw of Lorkhaj?

    Been farming for lots of gear. Even after completing vMoL HM I still don't have a single sharpened shock or inferno Moondancer staff. -_-

    Are the chests in the Trials Treasure Chests or Reward Chests? If Treasure, then the passive applies, if Rewards, then no.

    And, the Treasure chest passive has nothing to do with Traits, only if you are going to get a Set Item, and what level of Improvement it is. I have pulled plenty (about 12% of the time) of Purple Prosperous Set items from Treasure Chests.

    Well you find both in Maw. You do open chests with locks on them, so I assume those are Treasure Chests? If so, they should benefit from the passive (I think...)

    I got an Inferno Moondancer Stave (Sharpened) from a trash mob... on my very first MOL run. RNG + ESO = hell's hell.
    Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 25 DLCs. 41 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game.
  • GreenhaloX
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    runagate wrote: »

    Also, Mythbusters are morons. Not the best thing to put in allcaps in your title. Or anything in allcaps, actually.

    Ooooo.. ouch.. :s
    Recremen wrote: »
    I have used many master chests with Treasure Hunter and never gotten a gold anything, so I highly doubt this is real.

    Ha ha, we all know this is not real.

    It is the concept or question of "why not?!" With so many changes, patches and updates, there should be allowable to have a gold item and/or jewelry drop in a master chest, from time to time, similar to farming for high-end sharpened weapons. You get purple rings and purple necklaces from advanced chests (awesome, by the way), but you're still getting purple rings and necklaces in master chests. It is like hitting a wall constantly; a barrier from getting gold pieces. Lift the wall, ZOS/Zen!!

    The only drawback is having to steal 75 CPs from the other abilities, such as Warlord and Mooncap, so you can plug those into the Thief constellation to unlock the Treasure Hunter. Although, the setups is fine for normal PvE, I would have to switch back those CPs to Warlord and Mooncap for trials and vet dungeons. It is fun ravaging through an area map looking for chests and seeing what good pieces are in, and with the Treasure Hunter, you know the items are upgraded. Sadly, gold pieces are currently just a myth.
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    I think some are reading the title and not your actual post

    I'd like this to influence all treasure even to allow gold drops but myth or not, ppl are convinced through their own experiences that gold isn't possible.
    -PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
    ~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501
  • zaria
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    This reminds me of the luck affect loot level in Oblivion.
    Went so far as making an mod to test it, added some chests and npc with 100 pieces of items from various leveled lists and entered after setting luck to 0 or 100, here it found that only level affected loot. Luck 0 or 100 had no noticeable effect
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • lardvader
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    Nestor wrote: »
    I thought master chests also had a chance to have 2 pieces of set items as well

    @spencer2361 I almost said that myself but....

    Yes, I think that is the case. Master Chests, and to an extent Advanced Chests, do give out more stuff. I just have not opened enough to say definitively you get more than one set item. And if this only applies to Advanced and Master with the Passive or not. Not enough testing on a small population sample.

    Oh to be able to look under the hood of the RNG tables and factors in this game.....

    Don't think I ever had 2 set pcs drop from advanced chest even with TH passive but I get 2 from master chests from time to another. Haven't really noticed any increased chance for double drop with the passive but then again I don't really have a big sample size to base this on.
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  • Vaoh
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    BlackbirdV wrote: »
    Vaoh wrote: »
    Nestor wrote: »
    Vaoh wrote: »

    How would the Treasure Hunter passive change chest loot in Normal or Veteran Maw of Lorkhaj?

    Been farming for lots of gear. Even after completing vMoL HM I still don't have a single sharpened shock or inferno Moondancer staff. -_-

    Are the chests in the Trials Treasure Chests or Reward Chests? If Treasure, then the passive applies, if Rewards, then no.

    And, the Treasure chest passive has nothing to do with Traits, only if you are going to get a Set Item, and what level of Improvement it is. I have pulled plenty (about 12% of the time) of Purple Prosperous Set items from Treasure Chests.

    Well you find both in Maw. You do open chests with locks on them, so I assume those are Treasure Chests? If so, they should benefit from the passive (I think...)

    I got an Inferno Moondancer Stave (Sharpened) from a trash mob... on my very first MOL run. RNG + ESO = hell's hell.

    Yeah?

    Well I've run Maw of Lorkhaj hundreds of times and many of those completes were on Vet. I have even become a Dro'm-Athra Destroyer on PS4 NA.

    Still not a single Sharpened Moondancer Shock/Inferno staff :cry:

    Is there any way I can let ZOS know that I've run their trial far more than most people ever will without getting these loot drops, and that now being busy irl is restricting my time to run Maw at all? I feel sad and cheated that after putting in so much time (and becoming one of the very few to complete vMoL HM on console) I haven't gotten either of my Sharpened Moondancer Shock or Inferno staves. Plus I main a Mag Sorc that makes up like 98% of my time played so it's kinda huge for me.

    good for you though on getting it from an add pull on your first attempt of nMoL....
    Edited by Vaoh on February 13, 2017 10:05AM
  • Blackbird_V
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    BlackbirdV wrote: »
    Vaoh wrote: »
    Nestor wrote: »
    Vaoh wrote: »

    How would the Treasure Hunter passive change chest loot in Normal or Veteran Maw of Lorkhaj?

    Been farming for lots of gear. Even after completing vMoL HM I still don't have a single sharpened shock or inferno Moondancer staff. -_-

    Are the chests in the Trials Treasure Chests or Reward Chests? If Treasure, then the passive applies, if Rewards, then no.

    And, the Treasure chest passive has nothing to do with Traits, only if you are going to get a Set Item, and what level of Improvement it is. I have pulled plenty (about 12% of the time) of Purple Prosperous Set items from Treasure Chests.

    Well you find both in Maw. You do open chests with locks on them, so I assume those are Treasure Chests? If so, they should benefit from the passive (I think...)

    I got an Inferno Moondancer Stave (Sharpened) from a trash mob... on my very first MOL run. RNG + ESO = hell's hell.

    Yeah?

    Well I've run Maw of Lorkhaj hundreds of times and many of those completes were on Vet. I have even become a Dro'm-Athra Destroyer on PS4 NA.

    Still not a single Sharpened Moondancer Shock/Inferno staff :cry:

    Is there any way I can let ZOS know that I've run their trial far more than most people ever will without getting these loot drops, and that now being busy irl is restricting my time to run Maw at all? I feel sad and cheated that after putting in so much time (and becoming one of the very few to complete vMoL HM on console) I haven't gotten either of my Sharpened Moondancer Shock or Inferno staves. Plus I main a Mag Sorc that makes up like 98% of my time played so it's kinda huge for me.

    good for you though on getting it from an add pull on your first attempt of nMoL....

    At least you csn do vMOL. My DPS is 25k average, which is apparently *** af :(
    Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 25 DLCs. 41 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game.
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    Gold spriggan jewels doesn´t exist, end of story

    That is something I don't understand. We are able to craft, deconstruct and upgrade every item in inventory slot... except for jewellery. Was this done on purpose by ZOS ? Or maybe we will actually see jeweller crafting someday ?
  • Berenhir
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    There is no myth to be busted. It's more an alternative fact that golden jewellery drops from master chests if - and only if - you recruited this little stupid WASP before that now follows you everywhere. My ingame friend @potus told me so and what he says is always fact beyond truth and reason!
    PC EU - Ebonheart Pact - Gray Host - Death Recap -#zergfarming -
  • Blackbird_V
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    Berenhir wrote: »
    There is no myth to be busted. It's more an alternative fact that golden jewellery drops from master chests if - and only if - you recruited this little stupid WASP before that now follows you everywhere. My ingame friend @potus told me so and what he says is always fact beyond truth and reason!

    Not true. However I still do not understand why sometimes a wasp follows you, then attacks you after a few mins.
    Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 9 years. 6 paid expansions. 25 DLCs. 41 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Cadwell Silver&Gold as a "you think you do but you don't"-tier deflection to any criticism regarding the lack of overland difficulty in the game.
  • Vaoh
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    Gold spriggan jewels doesn´t exist, end of story

    That is something I don't understand. We are able to craft, deconstruct and upgrade every item in inventory slot... except for jewellery. Was this done on purpose by ZOS ? Or maybe we will actually see jeweller crafting someday ?

    It's a future feature. Was mentioned for the first time back in 2014 at a Guild Summit along with Poisoncraftingand another feature.

    Poisoncrafting took until Dark Brotherhood to release.

    Jewelcrafting will release..... eventually :|
    Edited by Vaoh on February 13, 2017 11:44AM
  • GreenhaloX
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    Berenhir wrote: »
    There is no myth to be busted. It's more an alternative fact that golden jewellery drops from master chests if - and only if - you recruited this little stupid WASP before that now follows you everywhere. My ingame friend @potus told me so and what he says is always fact beyond truth and reason!

    I'm kind of baffled with this comment. I don't know if I should take this as a joke or are you alternately believing that golden jewelries could drop by having the treasure hunter option. Either way, yes, that little *** wasp is annoying. Ha ha.
    Vaoh wrote: »

    Well I've run Maw of Lorkhaj hundreds of times and many of those completes were on Vet. I have even become a Dro'm-Athra Destroyer on PS4 NA.

    Still not a single Sharpened Moondancer Shock/Inferno staff :cry:

    Is there any way I can let ZOS know that I've run their trial far more than most people ever will without getting these loot drops, and that now being busy irl is restricting my time to run Maw at all? I feel sad and cheated that after putting in so much time (and becoming one of the very few to complete vMoL HM on console) I haven't gotten either of my Sharpened Moondancer Shock or Inferno staves. Plus I main a Mag Sorc that makes up like 98% of my time played so it's kinda huge for me.

    good for you though on getting it from an add pull on your first attempt of nMoL....

    I feel you.. before using the treasure hunter option, I was rampaging countless times through bosses and getting crap pieces, to include green weapon/armor pieces and even green jewelry, but then I happen to get a purple precise Spriggan staff from a random snake. I was kind of like, what the f? How the hell am I getting this from a random add, yet, getting crap after crap from bosses. Even going through trials (and even vets; I don't like vet trials, by the way.. ha ha), it always blows when you get other pieces you're not looking for. Particularly, doing multiple consecutive runs, and all the while, you have to put up with headbutters and complainers (especially, on those vet ones.)

    I'm sure, by now, after using the treasure hunter option, I have gone through well over 1000 chests. Although, still no sharpened Spriggan sword yet, it is just hilarious, I got tons of other divines/infused/pen armor pieces and other precise and sharpened weapons, I don't know what to do with. All my traders are constantly stocked up and my bank and personal inventory are tapped out. So, I have no choice but to give a lot away, versus deconstructing or selling to merchants of such good pieces. Also, I rarely do bosses and dolmens anymore, unless I come by a spot and somebody needs help. So, I really have no choice, but to turn off the option. I can't take anymore loot. Ha ha. However, it would nice and viable if golden jewelries were added to chests, as part of using the hunter option in the near or distant future.

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