Should ESO drop some words off the profanity filter?
arena25
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Alright, it's pretty much official...there is no way ZeniMax, try as they might, will get a T for Teen rating on ESO.
So, with that in mind, do you support an update of the profanity filter?
Now, before ZeniMax panics, there is a reason behind this...in almost every guild advertisement, when someone says "whisper me for an invite", it reads like this: "whi**** *e" for an invite", which doesn't make sense. Now, granted, I understand what ZOS is trying to block out, but there is filtering profanity and then there is filtering when you shouldn't.
So, with that in mind, should ZeniMax update their profanity filters so that harmless words don't get filtered to the point of unreadable?
Edited by arena25 on February 10, 2017 6:47PM So, with that in mind, do you support an update of the profanity filter?
Now, before ZeniMax panics, there is a reason behind this...in almost every guild advertisement, when someone says "whisper me for an invite", it reads like this: "whi**** *e" for an invite", which doesn't make sense. Now, granted, I understand what ZOS is trying to block out, but there is filtering profanity and then there is filtering when you shouldn't.
So, with that in mind, should ZeniMax update their profanity filters so that harmless words don't get filtered to the point of unreadable?
If you can't handle the heat...stay out of the kitchen!
Should ESO drop some words off the profanity filter? 75 votes
YES! Update the profanity filter!
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Yes, but only if...(explain below)
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I'm neutral on this idea
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No, but would support if...
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No, keep profanity filter as is.
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Don't care/wait and see/casual observer
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Arena25, are you insane?
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arena25✭✭✭✭✭Yes, but only if...(explain below)Voting on my own poll...
I vote yes, but only if ZOS has the technology to update the filter.
After all, the profanity filter is there for a reason...to block out mature language. But some words that aren't mature language are blocked out for whatever reason. Time for an update.If you can't handle the heat...stay out of the kitchen!0 -
MasterSpatula✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Arena25, are you insane?Who the hell leaves the profanity filter on?"A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle12 -
arena25✭✭✭✭✭Yes, but only if...(explain below)Alright, I already got one insane vote four votes in. What did I do now?If you can't handle the heat...stay out of the kitchen!1
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BlackSparrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm neutral on this ideaI'm neutral, primarily because I play with the filter off. Never even realized "whisper me" did that. XDLiving vicariously through my characters.
My Girls:"If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"
Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"
(Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)0 -
arena25✭✭✭✭✭Yes, but only if...(explain below)MasterSpatula wrote: »Who the hell leaves the profanity filter on?
Parents who need to shelter their children from the language my high school football team uses on a daily basis.If you can't handle the heat...stay out of the kitchen!0 -
Dawnblade✭✭✭✭✭I'm neutral on this ideaThey should just remove it (I have it turned off) as it fails miserably (your example shows it filtering something that doesn't need filtering while I could come up with dozens of examples of players using misspellings, spaces, and symbol characters to bypass the filter entirely).
Of course I also believe it's purpose isn't to actually filter profanity, but rather to give ZOS a bit of safe harbor / mitigation from any claims resulting from in-game player chat behavior, so I don't think they actually care how well it does the job (It sucks), but rather that it exists so they can say they have a filter.Edited by Dawnblade on February 10, 2017 6:58PM3 -
Jamini✭✭✭✭✭Arena25, are you insane?People play with the profanity filter on?
Good Morning gets partially filtered. I know of very few people that intentionally keep it on, simply because the filter is so badly done.
It may as well not exist."Adapt. or Die."3 -
Bladerunner1✭✭✭✭YES! Update the profanity filter!I'd like to put a vote in the yes column. When I type "put a" in the middle of a sentence and it shows up bleeped it looks like I'm trying to do something else entirely to the noun that follows.Edited by Bladerunner1 on February 10, 2017 7:12PM1 -
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NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, keep profanity filter as is.No but honestly anything flagged shouldn't even go out....it should do some yellow alert that msg doesn't meet filter
This impacts and addresses your very valid concerns all while keeping the policy in tact-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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BlackSparrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm neutral on this ideaPeople play with the profanity filter on?
Good Morning gets partially filtered. I know of very few people that intentionally keep it on, simply because the filter is so badly done.
It may as well not exist.
Okay, I give up. What, exactly, about "Good Morning" gets filtered?
This is like a whole different part of the game I didn't know about. O_OLiving vicariously through my characters.
My Girls:"If you were trapped in your house for, say, a year, how would you pass the time?"
Nephikah the Houseless, dunmer assassin: "I suppose I could use the break. I have a lot of business holdings now that need management."
Swum-Many-Waters, elderly argonian healer: "I think that I would enjoy writing a memoir."
Silh'ki, khajiit warrior-chef: "Would this one be able to go outside, to the nearby river? It's hard to fish without water!"
Peregrine Huntress, bosmer hunter: "Who is forcing me to stay inside, and where can I find them?"
Lorenyawe, altmer mechanist: "And why would I want to go outside in the first place? Too much to be done in the workshop."
Lorelai Magpie, breton master thief: "I'd go nuts. Lucky for me, I have a little experience sneaking out!"
Rasheda the Burning Heart, redguard knight: "I would continue my training to keep my skills sharp."
Hex-Eye Azabi, khajiit daedric priestess: "I suppose it would be lucky, then, that I built a shrine to Mephala in my backyard."
Yngva Stormhammer, nord bandit (reformed...ish): "I hate being inside even when I'm not forced to be. GET. ME. OUT."
Madam Argentia, vampire dunmer aristocrat: "I suppose it would be more of the same. I have a rather... contentious relationship with the sun."
Mazie gra-Bolga, orc scout: "Uh... I'd have to house train my bear..."
Felicia the Wanderer, imperial witch-for-hire: "What Lorelai said."
Calico Jaka-dra, retired khajiit pirate: "This one would like a rest from her grand adventures. Her jewel shop runs out of stock!"
Shimmerbeam, blind altmer psijic: "Provided that I am confined to Artaeum, I do not think I will want for things to occupy my time."
Shauna Blackfire, redguard necromancer: "Sounds like paradise. I hate people."
Kirniel the Undying, cursed bosmer warrior: "I would feel useless, not being able to fight."
Echoes-from-Dragons, argonian who thinks she's a dragon: "All the better to count my hoard!"
(Signature idea shamelessly stolen from Abeille.)3 -
UrQuan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Arena25, are you insane?Regardless of my actual opinion on the topic, if there's an option in a poll questioning someone's sanity I will always choose that option
Sorry for screwing up your poll results @arena25 but I feel like I had no real choice...
As far as how I actually feel about the topic: I always have the profanity filter turned off (except when I create a new character and forget to turn it off - this inevitably results in me getting very confused later on when innocent words suffer from the filter and I don't clue in immediately as to what's happening). I would like it to be updated to be smarter somehow, but I don't really have any suggestions on how to do that.
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Zvorgin✭✭✭✭✭What are they trying to filter by censoring whisper me?
This is a serious question, I actually can't figure it out and it has bothered me.0 -
MasterSpatula✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Arena25, are you insane?I would like it to be updated to be smarter somehow, but I don't really have any suggestions on how to do that.
I don't even want that.
If people are going to be awful or just really un-classy, I want to know. If someone's being abusive to others, I don't think there's any place for that person in the community and I will report. But I don't need to be protected from their words. Their words, in fact, help me judge just how awful the person actually is. And if someone's just being tacky or tasteless, well, /ignore is a thing."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle0 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, keep profanity filter as is.I don't have any problem with the present profanity filter, but then I don't feel any need to use profanities in a computer game or on a game forum. If other people feel a need to do so then I have no wish to see it. It's less to do with an age rating, and more to do with maturity. I do believe in choice, however, and an option to toggle any such filter on or off is fine by me.0 -
Phaedrathallassa✭✭✭YES! Update the profanity filter!My guild message of the day has the words "Has permissions" in it. Except, it shows up as ha******issions".
.... this is absolutely ridiculous.
I've even seen words in linked items be marked out. Items in zos's own code are considered obscene!
It make the profanity filter worse than useless. On every new character set up: Turn on attacking innocents, turn off profanity filter.
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Danikat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm neutral on this ideaAs far as I'm aware the only people who play with the profanity filter turned on are those who aren't aware it's possible to turn it off.
I know of one person, full grown adult with kids of her own and an ex-military husband who would keep it on because she simply doesn't like seeing swear words, but she wouldn't play ESO because she also doesn't like seeing people get killed or having to kill them herself, even if they're not real.PC EU player | She/her/hers | PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!
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UrQuan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Arena25, are you insane?
When I say I'd like it to be smarter somehow I really mean that I'd like it to stop filtering out so many "false positives" where completely innocent phrases end up with a chunk somewhere in the middle being filtered out. Like the "whisper me" example given in this thread showing up as "whi**** *e".MasterSpatula wrote: »I would like it to be updated to be smarter somehow, but I don't really have any suggestions on how to do that.
I don't even want that.
If people are going to be awful or just really un-classy, I want to know. If someone's being abusive to others, I don't think there's any place for that person in the community and I will report. But I don't need to be protected from their words. Their words, in fact, help me judge just how awful the person actually is. And if someone's just being tacky or tasteless, well, /ignore is a thing.
Someone stole my sweetrollCaius Drusus Imperial DK (DC)
Bragg Ironhand Orc Temp (DC)
Neesha Stalks-Shadows Argonian NB (EP)
Falidir Altmer Sorcr (AD)
J'zharka Khajiit NB (AD)Isabeau Runeseer Breton Sorc (DC)
Fevassa Dunmer DK (EP)
Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
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theher0not✭✭✭✭✭YES! Update the profanity filter!They really need to at least patch it. Right now it tags some random words as profanities which makes the chat look really wierd.
Though I don't use profanity filters I think it should at least work as intended for the people who want to use it.Edited by theher0not on February 10, 2017 8:06PM0 -
Calboy✭✭✭✭✭YES! Update the profanity filter!And get rid of naming and shaming. *** those that need to be named and shamed.0
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SolarCat02✭✭✭✭✭I have actually learned new slang vocabulary words from the ZOS filter, in the process of trying to figure out what two words the person actually typed.
I keep my filter on, specifically because I want to know when the game decides to filter my updates to the MotD so I can reword them to separate the two words whose juxtaposition caused the filtering. It really does keep area chat interesting, though... Always looks like there's a swearing war going on.Why be normal when you can be better?
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[Deleted User]✭✭✭YES! Update the profanity filter!The user and all related content has been deleted.0
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FluffyReachWitch✭✭✭✭✭I'm neutral on this ideaI have no problems with the filter censoring what it does. And I get a chuckle out of the unneeded asterisks in the middle of a perfectly polite sentence.
But maybe a "smarter" filter with fewer false positives would be more helpful. Some prefer to keep the filter on for those times when chat sinks into verbal abuse. But directions, location names, and other things being filtered out can make things a bit confusing.1 -
Hallothiel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭YES! Update the profanity filter!This in game or on this forum? The one for the forum is ridiculous.0 -
SickDuck✭✭✭✭✭YES! Update the profanity filter!Thanks to ZOS completely innocent words feel filthy now. And it's totally useless. When on it makes conversations unreadable while putting dirty words in our minds where there shouldn't be one in the first place. It's like an 8 year old boy giggling about '***' every time he sees a random circle.
Btw it's a flipping pegi18 game. We all know these words. And no PF will block insults or trolling anyway.Holdviola - Khira'de Regalo - Lélekvadász - Used To Be An Adventurer - Zetor - Does-Not-Give-A-Duck - Lord Sugar - Tenar Arha - Da'rinka - Violent Moon - Extreme Runner0
