Rev Rielle wrote: »

It's a roleplaying game. It's not about the player, it's about the character.

I think people that get this confused tend to say things like "I've done this" and "I've done that", and whilst true you have because you're playing the game, it's really your character that has done these things, really. Playing a role, it's less about ourselves and more about our characters. That's the classic role playing game; playing your character, warts and all, and that's what ESO's history is.

But in this seemingly selfish world these days, where egos often appear to take centre stage, where many profess to wanting it all right now, and most seem to gladly consume themselves with, well themselves, I'm sure it's only the extreme minority that understand this difference.

ZoS may get rid of levels altogether one day (and just have CP), and they may relax class restrictions, who knows. But it's doubtful.

Oh, indeed, at least for some of us - it is a roleplaying game. As an RP player I don't care too much about builds, stats, DPMs etc, but I care about my character, its interactions with the world. And therefore the suspension of disbelief plays a profound role in my perception of the game - ie. the less artificial, quirk, not-explained-by-the-lore limitations placed in the game by the devs the better. In real life with a bit of effort I could change (and in fact I have changed several times) my profession, with a bit more effort I could change my gender (no, I haven't tried that), whilst to change my race, well, suffice to say, I am not Michael Jackson. In ESO you can easily change your gender and race, but you are unable to change your profession (class). Where is the lore to explain that?!
Oh, I know, that there is no lore to explain eg. why only guilds with 10+ members can have their heraldry, but that's only a cosmetic annoyance, whilst preventing my character from changing his profession (class), given that he CAN become her (and Argonian!) if he only has few crowns to spare - that's silly!

ExcaliburESO wrote: »

U dont get the point of class change guys i want to class change not to be max lvl but to save my achivments and titles that i have on my main character + also mount lvl and Aliance War rank which is pretty high!!!!

What a cruel story, a "war rank which is pretty high" reached with class X, and now wanting to change this high ranked toon into a new, unknown, unexperienced warden and posing with this high rank. Pfffff .... what a weak show.

If a class change service is introduced, it must be a one time thing and no take backs. Otherwise, it will be abused by FOTM'ers and ruin the game balance,

But honestly, I've never heard of an AAA MMO giving class changes simply because it causes balance problems, messes up the class populations and encourages a pay to win atmosphere. Chances are, you won't see class changes from ZoS anytime soon, which is a good play. By the end of the day, what the players want isn't always what's healthy in the long run. Hence why most mmos don't offer this service.

What a silly thing to ask for. If you want a new character, make a new character. "But I put so much time into character A!" isn't an argument in favor of class change, either.

I have 7 characters and have leveled them all by doing ALL the story lines with each toon. I will not be doing that again...

So don't do that again.... since it doesn't require remotely that much questing to level a character up. Getting every single skill point? Yes, that requires doing all the storylines. But do you really need all those SP on every character you make?

I am in favor of class-change tokens.

Leveling up a character takes little time; that's not my issue.
Titles/achievements do not affect game-play; that's not my issue.

My issues are stable training and crafting skills.

Early on I built a Bosmer Templar with the idea that she would be a nature-based, guerrilla-type character. I didn't know the game well enough then to know that wasn't possible. I tried to make the concept work, found I couldn't, and stopped playing her. But I needed alts/mules, so I didn't delete the character, and for months I've been buying her stable training and I've ground up all her crafting skills so she can get rank 3 hirelings and pick up rank 10 mats on the occasions when she harvests. Months of that, and she's finally just about to finish up on the stable training - I've been really looking forward to being done with it - but I still had no intention of actually playing her; I was buying up the speed/stamina so I could eventually use her as a farming alt.

Now there's the Warden, and the Warden class has the skills and aesthetics I wanted that character to have in the first place. I could, theoretically, delete her and re-build her as a Warden, and she'd be exactly what I wanted. But if I do that, I'll lose all those months of stable check-ins and crafting grinding. That's super frustrating, and I don't believe it makes the game better for anyone for me to have to re-do those things.

I'm not even talking about the gold cost of the stable upgrades, or the value of all those decon'd items; I'm talking about my time that ZOS is asking me to waste. Those 180 once-per-day upgrades, divided by ~4 log-ins per week = 4-5 months before a new version of this character would have the same functionality as the one I've already put time into. Ugh.

The Morrowind patch was a major change to the game. A free character slot and 1 permanent, one-time-only class-change token would have been completely appropriate.