[Bug?] Noticeable damage increase in trials

Nifty2g · February 2017

I just noticed that in trials we are taking a noticeable amount of extra damage, it's not that bad but is this intended?

in vmol all damage was increased, not sure about the others just yet
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert

SienneYviete · February 2017

Interesting, Have not logged in yet to check but does it seem like an across the board mitigation change as in are the tanks also feeling this or is it only the dps and healers?

Nifty2g · February 2017

SienneYviete wrote: »

Interesting, Have not logged in yet to check but does it seem like an across the board mitigation change as in are the tanks also feeling this or is it only the dps and healers?

across the board

Dracane · February 2017

You mean, mobs deal more damage against you or you deal more damage against them ?

Nifty2g · February 2017

Dracane wrote: »

You mean, mobs deal more damage against you or you deal more damage against them ?

I just noticed that in trials we are taking a noticeable amount of extra damage

TARAFRAKA · February 2017

SH*T!
*panics and decons master resto*

Mojmir · February 2017

embrace the challenge

Nifty2g · February 2017

Mojmir wrote: »

embrace the challenge

i mean, lets be honest insane damage route is the ZOS way, but I wouldn't call it a challenge, it's still fairly manageable just don't see why to bring the damage up. People are saying they don't notice it in other trials, but i'm not sure havent tried it out

TARAFRAKA · February 2017

Mojmir wrote: »

embrace the challenge

See, you say that but youre forgetting the first fundamental rule of MMOs.
IT IS ALWAYS THE HEALERS FAULT.
No, thank you. I've already got PTSD and twitch uncontrollably when someone demands orbs while simultaneously taking 10k damage per second.

Oompuh · February 2017

TARAFRAKA wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

embrace the challenge

See, you say that but youre forgetting the first fundamental rule of MMOs.
IT IS ALWAYS THE HEALERS FAULT.
No, thank you. I've already got PTSD and twitch uncontrollably when someone demands orbs while simultaneously taking 10k damage per second.

Damage increase? more like weak heals.
Tank died? not enough heals.
DPS died? not enough heals.
healer died? heal yourself you scrub.
No one died? throw more orbs, im out of magicka

DisgracefulMind · February 2017

TARAFRAKA wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

embrace the challenge

See, you say that but youre forgetting the first fundamental rule of MMOs.
IT IS ALWAYS THE HEALERS FAULT.
No, thank you. I've already got PTSD and twitch uncontrollably when someone demands orbs while simultaneously taking 10k damage per second.

Energy orbs, my friend.

S1ipperyJim · February 2017

"noticeable amount of extra damage" if you are reporting a bug, this is the wrong area and you need to be more specific.

Mojmir · February 2017

Nifty2g wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

embrace the challenge

i mean, lets be honest insane damage route is the ZOS way, but I wouldn't call it a challenge, it's still fairly manageable just don't see why to bring the damage up. People are saying they don't notice it in other trials, but i'm not sure havent tried it out

silly questions but
did you lose skill xp? saw that in another thread
define the damage? adds/bosses/mechanics
video/screenshots(you know they always want proof)

id log in to check, but yeah the only boss i'm fighting is the update one and its super that corrupt

SienneYviete · February 2017

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

TARAFRAKA wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

embrace the challenge

See, you say that but youre forgetting the first fundamental rule of MMOs.
IT IS ALWAYS THE HEALERS FAULT.
No, thank you. I've already got PTSD and twitch uncontrollably when someone demands orbs while simultaneously taking 10k damage per second.

Energy orbs, my friend.

Beat me to it

Drummerx04 · February 2017

TARAFRAKA wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

embrace the challenge

See, you say that but youre forgetting the first fundamental rule of MMOs.
IT IS ALWAYS THE HEALERS FAULT.
No, thank you. I've already got PTSD and twitch uncontrollably when someone demands orbs while simultaneously taking 10k damage per second.

Yup. Tank is getting nuked by rakkhat and 8 dps are crying for obs. It's like, "WHY DON'T YOU POP THE ORBS I THROW AND STOP ASKING FOR MORE!"

Of course I know the answer since I also dps... the orb synergy flashes across the middle of the screen for half a second before vanishing and never coming back as 15 orbs pass through your character's chest unable to be synergized.

To summarize: ZOS fix synergies, please.

Mojmir · February 2017

hedna123b14_ESO · February 2017

Nifty2g wrote: »

I just noticed that in trials we are taking a noticeable amount of extra damage, it's not that bad but is this intended?

in vmol all damage was increased, not sure about the others just yet
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert

Can confirm this

TARAFRAKA · February 2017

Drummerx04 wrote: »

TARAFRAKA wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

embrace the challenge

See, you say that but youre forgetting the first fundamental rule of MMOs.
IT IS ALWAYS THE HEALERS FAULT.
No, thank you. I've already got PTSD and twitch uncontrollably when someone demands orbs while simultaneously taking 10k damage per second.

Yup. Tank is getting nuked by rakkhat and 8 dps are crying for obs. It's like, "WHY DON'T YOU POP THE ORBS I THROW AND STOP ASKING FOR MORE!"

Of course I know the answer since I also dps... the orb synergy flashes across the middle of the screen for half a second before vanishing and never coming back as 15 orbs pass through your character's chest unable to be synergized.

To summarize: ZOS fix synergies, please.

I'm already dead on the inside so i dont think fixing synergies will change that

My fave is when tank calls out rakkhats gatling gun so i can be prepared and the lowest dps in the group screams OMG WHY HASNT AETHER BEEN REAPPLIED, WHERES ELE AND ORBS WTF I HAD TO USE HARNESS....
Please stfu. Im keeping your tank (and by default you, unfortunately since we cant smart target) alive.

DenniMyuu · February 2017

I can't. Ran vAA last night for that stone atronach bust and it was completely fine. Only died at the beginning with the flame atronachs because stupid me keeps standing in the explosion of 7 dying atronachs. :<

ZOS_Finn · February 2017

Hey Folks,

We didn't make any changes specifically to Trials with the Homestead update. Can you give me an idea of what you are seeing by "increased damage"?

Thanks!

Pallio · February 2017

Feels like we are getting hit harder and mob's are getting hit for less. I think setting is wrong with the way pen is being calculated.. ie. We have less and mob has more etc.

Pallio · February 2017

Things like sharpened weapons and specifically Twice Fangled Serpent do not appear to have any effect.

Pallio · February 2017

Honestly feels like using them is make me get hit harder instead of mob.

Nifty2g · February 2017

ZOS_Finn wrote: »

Hey Folks,

We didn't make any changes specifically to Trials with the Homestead update. Can you give me an idea of what you are seeing by "increased damage"?

Thanks!

@ZOS_Finn When we very first walked into maw or lorkhaj today, it felt like monsters were hitting for an increased amount of damage. I asked around though, some people have been saying they experienced this and others saying they haven't noticed anything.
For me personally, I noticed when dealing with the physical damage mob types as tanking I took a fair amount of extra damage. And others in group were saying it was magic damage too hitting them quite hard.

As for Pallio's comment, our outgoing damage is totally fine i think anyway - higher actually.

Tyrion87 · February 2017

Maybe in trials the mobs are affected with the new destro staff passives (increased single target/AOE dmg) instead of players...

dramsb14_ESO · February 2017

Sounds like the same issue...

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/319528/sorc-squishier-after-patch

Shyl · February 2017

It felt like mobs were hitting harder in vMA yesterday too.

RoyJade · February 2017

Pallio wrote: »

Things like sharpened weapons and specifically Twice Fangled Serpent do not appear to have any effect.

Are you sure ?
Because… no penetration for players, and more damage from mobs… may that means… penetration is inverted ? It would be one of the most hilarious bug since launch xD

vyndral13preub18_ESO · February 2017

ZOS_Finn wrote: »

Hey Folks,

We didn't make any changes specifically to Trials with the Homestead update. Can you give me an idea of what you are seeing by "increased damage"?

Thanks!

I cant help but notice you qualified your statement with, specifically to trials... So how about over all? Or anywhere are all?

Asmael · February 2017

Pallio wrote: »

Things like sharpened weapons and specifically Twice Fangled Serpent do not appear to have any effect.

Mmh, I did a few tests with the training dummy, tested the light attack damage on critical hits (maelstrom weapons, no no proc effects):

One with TFS and 0 CPs in armor penetration
One without TFS and roughly 5000~ penetration from CPs

I was getting similar light attack damage.

Another thing I tested was whether the Minor slayer works on target dummies (3x VO, replace 1x VO by 1x Alkosh to only drop the Minor slayer), and it does.

I'll report it if I get different results after a raid (can confirm tonight with some luck).

NoFlash · February 2017

In pvp damage is so much stronger now. I used to be able to tank 8+ players but now 3 and I die. Death recap shows low numbers but I die faster now than before. We do more damage but we also take more damage.