Nothing change about it, except your accessibility to destructive reach.

Seraphayel wrote: »

lazarus102 wrote: »

At lvl 11 everything is squishy, lol.. Not a great example character for this thread.

Not really. Since One Tamriel lower level characters are pretty “powerful“ when compared to higher level characters due to the nature of how the level scaling works.

Indeed, for example if i compare my level 9 NB to CP 160 NB, the low level one kills faster, lives longer if equipped exact same way.

My issue however, since nothing is changed on survivability, it might just be me adjusting to be without CC and AOE of Destructive clench.

The reason it was moved because its "Not spammable" though, i never spammed it or any other abilities. But i still see peple spamming one ability everywhere, now its just shock on staff users. Templars still spam stabbing light shafts like they did grom beta ;D

Must be.

I used to be able to solo dolmens on this level 11 toon before patch and now playing is just pain in the ass.

Dolmens should be hard to solo, theres the right way to go now since they are harder and i have not seen so many Zerg trains either since patch which is also good but normal mobs are bit too strong right now and i assume they are even stronger with higher level characters if scaling is not changed to work the right way.

I mean before characters felt weaker the more level you got but if they now feel stronger, thats good too. Too bad i dont have high level sorc to test this.

Dracane wrote: »

I've seen experienced trialists saying, that their groups take considerably more damage in trials. And they would definately notice this.

So yes, there was an undocumented damage increase vs players again. But this is fine with me, makes the game faster and a bit challenging.

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Anyway, Dolmens are fun now again so in that part, i ölike the change, i wonder about World bosses, have not tried one yet.. I fear some quest bosses might OP now for some characters, i have certainly beenhaving great difficulties with few on my Nightblade allready before the patch.

But normal, everyday bandit ruffians just are... Well a bit too efficient to be poor, poorly equipped bandits

It seemed i was taking more damage than usual yesterday in vMA too. I assumed it was to balance for the increase in CP, so it seemed fair to me. If mobs are really doing more damage now, it would be nice if it was documented in the patch note though.

Tapio75 wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

I've seen experienced trialists saying, that their groups take considerably more damage in trials. And they would definately notice this.

So yes, there was an undocumented damage increase vs players again. But this is fine with me, makes the game faster and a bit challenging.

SURPRISEE!!! Its Valentins day (soon) gift!

Anyway, Dolmens are fun now again so in that part, i ölike the change, i wonder about World bosses, have not tried one yet.. I fear some quest bosses might OP now for some characters, i have certainly beenhaving great difficulties with few on my Nightblade allready before the patch.

But normal, everyday bandit ruffians just are... Well a bit too efficient to be poor, poorly equipped bandits

World bosses are invincible since they reworked them. Not invincible because of their damage (that's massive, more than before) but because of their HP. They have 1.8-2 million HP... it takes 10 minutes for a player to solo this and if you're doing one mistake at minute 9 and you die you can do it again - no thanks. I remember soloing many world bosses before as a DK, Templar or Sorc but right now I don't have the nerves to try it just because how long it takes to kill them. Otherwise open world dungeon bosses still have low hp and are soloable. I don't get the intention of ZOS by making world bosses a pain in the ... for everybody.

Leveling as a lvl 10 toon is easy, smooth and fast. The higher you get the slower you become because your outgoing damage decreases and your incoming damage increases. I'll try it later with my 20 Templar.

And to make all enemies deal more damage because CP point increase is bad design. They seem to forget that any new player that comes to play, has no CP at all and if i feel getting great damage from normal quest mobs compared to their "Minorityness" in the setting, the rsult will be that without CP, at least some newcomers will feel game being too difficult to play..

(I have 220 CP currently)

The whole CP increase should be compensated in competitive trials and such, not on the full scale change to whole world. I also think that PVP vise, the thing that people die faster makes it more frustrating to more, folks. Will result in more spamming, less thinking.

I like this change in many areas like Dolmens and Delves but i think the change should be contained to certain aspects of the game rather than making game harder to everyone, especially new players without CP. Game should never be designed for the level capped only.

Tapio75 wrote: »

And to make all enemies deal more damage because CP point increase is bad design. They seem to forget that any new player that comes to play, has no CP at all and if i feel getting great damage from normal quest mobs compared to their "Minorityness" in the setting, the rsult will be that without CP, at least some newcomers will feel game being too difficult to play..

(I have 220 CP currently)

The whole CP increase should be compensated in competitive trials and such, not on the full scale change to whole world. I also think that PVP vise, the thing that people die faster makes it more frustrating to more, folks. Will result in more spamming, less thinking.

I like this change in many areas like Dolmens and Delves but i think the change should be contained to certain aspects of the game rather than making game harder to everyone, especially new players without CP. Game should never be designed for the level capped only.

Do you have a source to back your claim that it was increased in this patch because of CP?

I ran with my Magicka Sorc tank nCOS this morning and died 3 times and almost died a bunch of times. Before the patch he was virtually unkillable. I have no idea what is happening. With 500cp and max resistances on one pull of trash mobs with ward up and my shield raised I was dropped to 25 percent health.

Still that is not enough of a sample. i would have to run some more dungeons. But a normal? Very odd.

Oh, thank heavens it's not just me. My templar, who's my go-to for soloing died at least 3 times today in a delve in Stormhaven against 2/3 bandits. I thought I was having latency/FPS issues (which I've noticed some of as well), but even without those issues and diving out of the way of "stupid", one "standard" hit is taking her health down 2/3 of the way. Her heals can barely keep up with it, much less manage the mobs. Prior to the patch, I could take on 4-5 enemies, with an included delve boss without dying once. I'd love confirmation on whether I need to adjust playing or if this is a bug.

This is my first "major" patch since playing often (I played for about 20-30 hours November 2015 and only came back this past December) so if this is a common thing of suddenly being squishier after an update, this is my first experience with it.

Wouldn't be the first time that Z unintentionally messed with the mob damage during a patch.

I wonder if resetting/re-spending CP points would clear the bug??