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What is the best race for the indecisive player?

Kaide
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I have a hard time choosing between a magic or stam build in every class. What is the best race for someone who cannot decide what build they want to go from the beginning?
  • Miss_Morphine
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    Dunmer is the only race with both magicka and stam passives, but it leans heavily towards magicka.

    I would suggest against not deciding until later.
    Edited by Miss_Morphine on February 5, 2017 12:50PM
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    sNB - Wicked Haze EP sDK - Do'Ashara EP
    TP healer - The Morphine EP
    DK tank - Unyielding Fury EP

    vMA Flawless - vMoL HM - vHRC HM - vAA HM - vSO HM - vDSA
  • Vrienda
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    Dunmer. Very versatile so you can flip flop between builds. Also the subject of the next chapter and has great lore in general.
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  • KingYogi415
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    Roll all 8 combos and and start feeding the horses.

    Thank me later.
  • Miss_Morphine
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    Roll all 8 combos and and start feeding the horses.

    Thank me later.

    Exactly what I did. Can confirm it's awesome to level with full speed.
    Fear is Failure NA PC
    Main - mSC - Somatic Fury EP
    mNB - A Sussurrus EP mTP - Wicked Light DC mDK - Flagellant AD
    sNB - Wicked Haze EP sDK - Do'Ashara EP
    TP healer - The Morphine EP
    DK tank - Unyielding Fury EP

    vMA Flawless - vMoL HM - vHRC HM - vAA HM - vSO HM - vDSA
  • AzuraKin
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    mix and match races too for fun.

    like me

    khajit nb
    bosmer sorc
    imperial templar
    high elf templar
    dark elf nb
    breton sorc
    high elf nb
    dark elf dragonknight.
    v160 spellsword (nightblade)
    v160 restoration archmage (Templar)
    v160 battlemage (sorcerer)
    v160 restoration archmage (Templar)
    v160 warrior (DragonKnight)
    v160 assassin (nightblade)
    v160 swordsman (sorcerer)
    v160 spellsword (nightblade)
  • Kaide
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    Do Nightblades use flame damage? Like do Dunmer do more damage as a magic nightblade than other races?
    Edited by Kaide on February 5, 2017 1:26PM
  • AzuraKin
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    depends on what type nb. if you using destro, then yes you would want to def be d.e.
    v160 spellsword (nightblade)
    v160 restoration archmage (Templar)
    v160 battlemage (sorcerer)
    v160 restoration archmage (Templar)
    v160 warrior (DragonKnight)
    v160 assassin (nightblade)
    v160 swordsman (sorcerer)
    v160 spellsword (nightblade)
  • pod88kk
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    It's got to be a dunmer(dark elf) dragonknight. Can't tell you how many times I switched between stamina and magicka with this as my main and it was tonne of fun doing the whole storyline and completing every zone on this. 2000+ hours on him.
    Enjoy your journey through Tamriel, it's going to be a blast! :)
  • Hawco10
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    As your indescive, I would recommend that you play a different game. . This game is all about making descisions. And if you can't make a basic one like selecting a race, then you probably won't fare well as you progress through the main story line.
    Edited by Hawco10 on February 5, 2017 1:36PM
  • Tabbycat
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    I have to agree with Dunmer. They are very versatile. They also have amazing lore.
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  • JinMori
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    High elf is the best for magicka setups, But for magicka dragonknight dunmer is better, for stamina the best choices are redguard for damage and sustain and khajiit for pure dps.
  • Miss_Morphine
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    JinMori wrote: »
    High elf is the best for magicka setups, But for magicka dragonknight dunmer is better, for stamina the best choices are redguard for damage and sustain and khajiit for pure dps.

    Dunmer is best for night blades and templars too. Only a little bit better and regen is more painful, but still. Redguard as of tomorrow may also be best for DPS because of the crit nerf.
    Edited by Miss_Morphine on February 5, 2017 2:19PM
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    Main - mSC - Somatic Fury EP
    mNB - A Sussurrus EP mTP - Wicked Light DC mDK - Flagellant AD
    sNB - Wicked Haze EP sDK - Do'Ashara EP
    TP healer - The Morphine EP
    DK tank - Unyielding Fury EP

    vMA Flawless - vMoL HM - vHRC HM - vAA HM - vSO HM - vDSA
  • Kaide
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    Hawco10 wrote: »
    As your indescive, I would recommend that you play a different game. . This game is all about making descisions. And if you can't make a basic one like selecting a race, then you probably won't fare well as you progress through the main story line.

    So because someone hasn't played the game to max level yet in every spec....and they have a hard time deciding....you are saying they shouldn't even attempt to learn the game and level in the first place? So I assume on your very first character you already knew all the different play styles and exactly what to expect in the game prior to even playing the game?
    Edited by Kaide on February 5, 2017 2:45PM
  • MythicEmperor
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    Dunmer. Not because of the mag+stam, but because even the least among the Dunmer is the superior of the best among the N'wah S'wits.
    With cold regards,
    Mythic

    Favorite Characters:
    Kilith Telvayn, Dunmer Telvanni Sorcerer (main)
    Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
    Vadusa Venim, Dunmer crafter (older main)
    Hir Hlaalu, Dunmer Warden
    Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
    Fargoth of Morrowind, Bosmer commoner
  • opticalgreeneb17_ESO
    This a good topic, I am also curious about race/build combination since I am a returning player, I haven't played since almost 2 years. What I would like to know is how big the impact is if I choose to play as an argonian nightblade stamina build. The thing is, I like this combination from both Oblivion and Skyrim and I wanted to tinker something similar in ESO. I have heard that argonian stam NB is not too viable especially with the latest patches. The best builds for them seem to be magicka builds or tank builds with des/resto staves. I want to do PVE for starters, enjoy the game, But I want to get seriously eventually and do PVP or difficult dungeons. So why are stam NB argonians not good? The lack of stamina bonus from racials? They do get health and a little magicka bonus from there which in my mind means less investment on those stats from gear. Also, they get a nice potion boost for all 3 attributes which should give them a slight advantage over other races. I know that Khajiit and Bosmers get some nice sneak bonuses, but since ESO is more of a dynamic game, I don't know how often sneak damage bonus will apply. I want to learn the details behind this so what am I missing? Thanks.
  • DragonBound
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    This a good topic, I am also curious about race/build combination since I am a returning player, I haven't played since almost 2 years. What I would like to know is how big the impact is if I choose to play as an argonian nightblade stamina build. The thing is, I like this combination from both Oblivion and Skyrim and I wanted to tinker something similar in ESO. I have heard that argonian stam NB is not too viable especially with the latest patches. The best builds for them seem to be magicka builds or tank builds with des/resto staves. I want to do PVE for starters, enjoy the game, But I want to get seriously eventually and do PVP or difficult dungeons. So why are stam NB argonians not good? The lack of stamina bonus from racials? They do get health and a little magicka bonus from there which in my mind means less investment on those stats from gear. Also, they get a nice potion boost for all 3 attributes which should give them a slight advantage over other races. I know that Khajiit and Bosmers get some nice sneak bonuses, but since ESO is more of a dynamic game, I don't know how often sneak damage bonus will apply. I want to learn the details behind this so what am I missing? Thanks.

    Did you look at the racials? Honestly some races have more flavor in racials then others like the crazy stamina bonuses for redguard, or the nice stamina/hp and speed buffs from orc just look at the racials and pick what sounds best, however woodelf can be great for the stealth in and out types as well as kahjit for pve.
  • starkerealm
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    Bretons. They're cute as hell. :p

    Though, seriously, pick the race that appeals to you, when you're playing your first character. It's not going to be "optimal." Hell, I run a Breton Stamblade. While the racials can benefit certain builds significantly, it's not something you can't overcome. Once you have an idea of what you enjoy or don't enjoy, then you can decide if you want to roll up another character with racial passives that better fit the build you're going for, or (worst case) you can change a character's race and name, if you want (though that does cost money).
  • Bigevilpeter
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    Just cause dunmer gives 3% stamina does not mean it is in anyways can be stamina built well, all its other passives favors magika and the fire damage only applies to magika builds.

    I think Argonian is the best middle ground since all his bonuses work for both stamina and magika with the exception of the negligible 3% max magika.

    Potion passive is great for all roles
    9% health and poison/disease resist is great for all roles
    5%healing done is great for solo play and healing, 5% healing received is great for solo play and tanking and in general both will be useful in most cases.

    Argonians make amazing tanks/healers and can do fine with DPS
  • starkerealm
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    Just cause dunmer gives 3% stamina does not mean it is in anyways can be stamina built well, all its other passives favors magika and the fire damage only applies to magika builds.

    I think Argonian is the best middle ground since all his bonuses work for both stamina and magika with the exception of the negligible 3% max magika.

    Potion passive is great for all roles
    9% health and poison/disease resist is great for all roles
    5%healing done is great for solo play and healing, 5% healing received is great for solo play and tanking and in general both will be useful in most cases.

    Argonians make amazing tanks/healers and can do fine with DPS

    Honestly, Argonians are one of the best races, on paper. They get overlooked a lot, but their passives have some fantastic, rounded, utility. They're not straight up better than everyone, but they can do pretty much anything.
  • Taleof2Cities
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    Imperial.
  • Browiseth
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    go argonian bro, you'll like it :smile:
    skingrad when zoscharacters:
    • EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
    • EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
    • EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
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  • starkerealm
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    Browiseth wrote: »
    go argonian bro, you'll like it :smile:

    Well, you know what they say, "once you go Argonian you'll... always be finding scales in your soup, and stepping on shed spines of inebriation, embarrassment, and misguided ennui in your carpet."
  • Browiseth
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    Browiseth wrote: »
    go argonian bro, you'll like it :smile:

    Well, you know what they say, "once you go Argonian you'll... always be finding scales in your soup, and stepping on shed spines of inebriation, embarrassment, and misguided ennui in your carpet."

    no i think you just get increased health and a weird out of place potion passive
    skingrad when zoscharacters:
    • EP - M - Strikes-with-Arcane - Argonian Stamina Sorc - lvl 50 - The Flawless Conqueror/Spirit Slayer
    • EP - F - Melina Elinia - Dunmer Magicka Dragonknight - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Sinnia Lavellan - Altmer Warden Healer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Follows-the-Arcane - Argonian Healer Sorcerer- lvl 50
    • EP - F - Ashes-of-Arcane - Argonian Magicka Necromancer - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Bolgrog the Sinh - Orc Stamina Dragonknight - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Moonlight Maiden - Altmer Magicka Templar - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Maxine Cauline - Breton Magicka Nightblade - lvl 50
    • EP - M - Garrus Loridius - Imperial Stamina Templar - lvl 50
    • EP - F - Jennifer Loridius - Imperial Necromancer tank - lvl 50
    PC/NA but live in EU 150+ ping lyfe
  • ZiRM
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    Altmer High Elf
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  • opticalgreeneb17_ESO
    So you guys keep saying Argonians here :) how well do you guys think an Argonian stamina NB will go nowadays? I just love this combination but I also want to know the true efficiency on a long term gameplay.
  • HatchetHaro
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    Argonian. Sexiest tails on Nirn.
    Best Argonian NA and I will fight anyone for it

    20 Argonians

    6x IR, 6x GH, 7x TTT, 4x GS, 4x DB, 1x PB, 4x SBS, 1x MM, 1x US, 1x Unchained
  • IcyDeadPeople
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    Agree that Dunmer is the most versatile, but why not download PTS client? You can make any max level character and try different build ideas with any race, see what you enjoy most.
  • Loralai_907
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    I have many builds that I like, and many that I do not like. I have just tried out a bunch of different things. Things I didn't think I would like, like bow for example, I really like on one of my builds. I tried stam NB and I hate it. I have tried to build tanks, but I don't like them much. I didn't think I would like using a destro staff, and using it with mag DK's is kind of my favorite. I have a mag templar and she makes me laugh she is so dam easy to play. Its hard to say what someone else might enjoy playing, we all like different things.
    PC-NA - formerly, mommadani907Guild: Weeping Angels - Co-GMTwitter: @ Loralai_907 several Alt accounts....CP 1700+
    Active characters:Fauna Rosewood ( Bosmer Stam DK - Master Crafter/AD)///Loralai Darknova (Drunken Zombie Bosmer Stam Sorc - PvP/AD)Lilith Darknova ( Dunmer Mag DK - Master Crafter - PvP/AD)///and roughly 1billion alts
  • EternallyMithril
    If you want a race that isn't terribly locked into a stamina vs. magicka build, consider Nord. There is one racial stamina buff (6% max stamina). But other than that, the main racials of note are +9% health, +20% health recovery, and -6% incoming damage taken. All those are going to be useful for any character of any class. And since even magicka builds need some stamina (for roll dodging, etc.) even if you end up going with a magicka build the 6% stam bonus won't be wasted.

  • max_only
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    Your race doesn't actually matter, people who give you a hard time for a 3% difference here or there can go kick rocks.

    Imperials are the most "well rounded" and if you have the option to make one you can choose any faction. Also thEy make great crafters because you don't have to find/buy the Imperial motif.

    Pick whatever is the cutest, you'll be soloing so much of this game you'll want to stare at something YOU like.

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