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Class change service and the new Warden class
ChuckyPayne
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I start a new character now, because of the riding lessons. I don't play with it just learn riding lessons in the next 4 month I can learn enough riding lessons.
If I do this, can I change to that lvl3 character to the new Warden class?
This is even more important for those who have no free character slot. Or we will get character slot cap raise too?
Edit: -race, +class
Edited by ChuckyPayne on February 1, 2017 7:42AM If I do this, can I change to that lvl3 character to the new Warden class?
This is even more important for those who have no free character slot. Or we will get character slot cap raise too?
Edit: -race, +class
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KochDerDamonen✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hopefully. If Warden were available from the start, my main would have been a Warden. Certainly not going to delete a 2 year old character to salvage who he is and punt it into a new Warden character.If you quote someone, and intend for them to see what you have said, be sure to Mention them with @[insert name].14
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ChuckyPayne✭✭✭✭Sry it is my mistake, -race +class, but there is not class change in the game yet.0
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EvilCroc✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, please. People should level new wardens from scratch. Otherwise we will have bunch of cp600 wardens and people who have no idea how to play with them.11 -
Runs✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No, please. People should level new wardens from scratch. Otherwise we will have bunch of cp600 wardens and people who have no idea how to play with them.
How is that any different from the other 4 classes?Runs| Orc Nightblade • Chim-el Adabal| Dunmer Templar • M'air the Honest| Khajiit Templar
Oddity| Altmer Sorceror • Drizlo| Orc DragonKnight • Lady Ra Gada| Redguard Sorceror
Taste-of-Hist-Sap| Argonian Nightblade • War'den Peace| Khajiit Warden • Little Warden Annie Altmer Warden
Ports with Blood| Breton Templar • Dirty-Old-Man| Dunmer DragonKnight • Eyes-of-the-Sun| Argonian DragonKnight
Bleak Mystique| Nord Warden • Polychronopolous| Imperial Sorceror • Bullcrit| Khajiit Nightblade
PC NA CP 1250+ and still a noob
At Writs End - A place to complete master writs26 -
KochDerDamonen✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, please. People should level new wardens from scratch. Otherwise we will have bunch of cp600 wardens and people who have no idea how to play with them.
I'm not sure what game you're playing, but I encounter cp561+ people all. the. time. that have no idea how to play their class or fill their role. It only takes a few hours to grind to 50 on a new character. This is not preventing people from being inexperienced Wardens, but the lack of it is preventing people from changing characters to a class that they would be happier with.If you quote someone, and intend for them to see what you have said, be sure to Mention them with @[insert name].9 -
Gladium✭✭✭A class change token is unneccessary, people should just level their characters like the average peasant. It takes no more than a day if you know how to powerlevel. I would suspect there are some coding issues with this too, otherwise ZOS would already have released a token like this to make more moolah.
As for an extra character slot or two, I agree wholeheartedly that it should be included with Morrowind, given how high the price actually is.Edited by Gladium on February 1, 2017 8:17AM4 -
EvilCroc✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nothing is different. We will see other class chars in this situation too. Level alts properly and do not ask for shortcut, I mean.4 -
KochDerDamonen✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nothing is different. We will see other class chars in this situation too. Level alts properly and do not ask for shortcut, I mean.
A "shortcut"? Haha, yes. I want to shortcut myself into changing a character into a class that better suits the way I would've liked to play them in the first place.
I want to shortcut all the things I've already done
I want to shortcut not having to delete a character to make space for one of a new class in defeat
I'm not sure how people see levelling to 50 as an achievement, you can do it in a sensory deprivation room by strapping a rubber band to a trigger and dumping your character next to a dolmen. Or, less bot-y, buy some ambrosia/xp scrolls and do it in a few hours.
If you quote someone, and intend for them to see what you have said, be sure to Mention them with @[insert name].12 -
Nerouyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, please. People should level new wardens from scratch. Otherwise we will have bunch of cp600 wardens and people who have no idea how to play with them.
Silly!
Join a dolmen train and you can 0 to 50 in one day. CP are account bound.
So really all requiring people to play wardens as a new character achieves is forcing them to either start the horse training grind from scratch or pay money to avoid that.
That is all.6 -
ForfiniteStories✭✭✭This. So much this.
Otherwise the Warden class will be useless to me. I've been wanting a frost-based skill line that does not require a staff since the beginning of the game. I am grateful that they are introducing it earlier than I expected, but the character I'd want to use such skills with has been created long ago, gaining dust while patiently waiting for what is now known as the Warden to come by and a wardrobe system to be implemented (so I can wear what I want without being squishy.) I'd hate to have to delete her; all the work I've done to build her up, all the tasks accomplished, as well as creating her unique appearance in the first place.5 -
vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I dont really see the problem. They would still have to level skill trees and heck that takes longer then grinding to 50.
And honestly leveling teaches you nothing. You can do it with one attack mapped.8 -
KochDerDamonen✭✭✭✭✭
✭vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »I dont really see the problem. They would still have to level skill trees and heck that takes longer then grinding to 50.
And honestly leveling teaches you nothing. You can do it with one attack mapped.
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Class changes please.If you quote someone, and intend for them to see what you have said, be sure to Mention them with @[insert name].7 -
ExcaliburESO✭✭✭✭U dont get the point of class change guys i want to class change not to be max lvl but to save my achivments and titles that i have on my main character + also mount lvl and Aliance War rank which is pretty high!!!!13
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Have other MMO's in the past offered class changes when bringing in new classes?
I've not seen it, but then my MMO list has always been a bit more of the niche ones not mainstream.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."1 -
Calboy✭✭✭✭✭Class change will come in time because it's a very good way for zos to earn money and they are a business after all5 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, please. People should level new wardens from scratch. Otherwise we will have bunch of cp600 wardens and people who have no idea how to play with them.
But CP is account-wide and available to any alt of any level already
And you can lvl to 50 in one evening of grinding if you set your mind to it.
Really, I see this reasoning being thrown around a lot but it just doesn't make sense in this game.Edited by Abeille on February 3, 2017 10:37AMJust so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.3 -
notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭I support class change if you lose all titles, pvp rank, skill line rank, and trait research.5 -
Dragonnord✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Have other MMO's in the past offered class changes when bringing in new classes?
I've not seen it, but then my MMO list has always been a bit more of the niche ones not mainstream.
Who cares about other MMOs??? Everyone says that ESO is different, that ESO is not WOW and so and now you ouse other MMOs on your favor! Pathetic!4 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
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It's funny how when saying ESO should be more like another MMO supports an argument that's the case (auction house) and when ESO being different helps that's the case.Have other MMO's in the past offered class changes when bringing in new classes?
I've not seen it, but then my MMO list has always been a bit more of the niche ones not mainstream.
Who cares about other MMOs??? Everyone says that ESO is different, that ESO is not WOW and so and now you ouse other MMOs on your favor! Pathetic!
Not you personally CarbonX but the community opinion over all.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."2 -
AzuraKin✭✭✭✭✭zos wil announce class change pending morrowind update soon. expected crown price is 20,000 per change. race change not included.v160 spellsword (nightblade)
v160 restoration archmage (Templar)
v160 battlemage (sorcerer)
v160 restoration archmage (Templar)
v160 warrior (DragonKnight)
v160 assassin (nightblade)
v160 swordsman (sorcerer)
v160 spellsword (nightblade)1 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭zos wil announce class change pending morrowind update soon. expected crown price is 20,000 per change. race change not included.
Works for me, classes are not meant to be changed as often as your undies.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."4 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
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It's funny how when saying ESO should be more like another MMO supports an argument that's the case (auction house) and when ESO being different helps that's the case.Have other MMO's in the past offered class changes when bringing in new classes?
I've not seen it, but then my MMO list has always been a bit more of the niche ones not mainstream.
Who cares about other MMOs??? Everyone says that ESO is different, that ESO is not WOW and so and now you ouse other MMOs on your favor! Pathetic!
Not you personally CarbonX but the community opinion over all.
In the same way that the results of a poll in the forum is only representative of the opinion of the players if it supports people's argument - otherwise, they pull the "not everybody visits the forums" argument (I actually saw the same person saying it against one poll and then going to another poll and mocking the OP because "turns out the player base is against you", on the same week).
Either way, I don't think the argument should be "other MMOs do it". More like, it is a player-friendly and decent thing for a company to offer when they add an option that wasn't there at release, be it class or race (and we already have race change).
I do not support unrestricted class change. I support class change exclusively to the new class, every time a new class is added, available only to existing characters. Add a big red warning sign saying that the class change is PERMANENT, that the person won't be able to go back to the class they were before, and knock the class skills levels back to 0 (you are learning them all again after all, are you not?). That would be the best way to solve the issue, in my opinion.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.4 -
ADarklore✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ChuckyPayne wrote: »I start a new character now, because of the riding lessons. I don't play with it just learn riding lessons in the next 4 month I can learn enough riding lessons.
If I do this, can I change to that lvl3 character to the new Warden class?
This is even more important for those who have no free character slot. Or we will get character slot cap raise too?
Edit: -race, +class
According to the Morrowind Announcement, "And you may indeed want to give a new character a go, as Morrowind introduces the first new class since ESO launched." Based upon this and the fact that ZOS has said numerous times they are not planning to add Class changes, I would say NO, there will not be Class change options.CP: 2078 ** ESO+ 2025 Content Pass ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
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KochDerDamonen✭✭✭✭✭
✭ChuckyPayne wrote: »I start a new character now, because of the riding lessons. I don't play with it just learn riding lessons in the next 4 month I can learn enough riding lessons.
If I do this, can I change to that lvl3 character to the new Warden class?
This is even more important for those who have no free character slot. Or we will get character slot cap raise too?
Edit: -race, +class
According to the Morrowind Announcement, "And you may indeed want to give a new character a go, as Morrowind introduces the first new class since ESO launched." Based upon this and the fact that ZOS has said numerous times they are not planning to add Class changes, I would say NO, there will not be Class change options.
They were very staunchly against RNG cash crates...
Race changes...
Bring unto me the class change token!If you quote someone, and intend for them to see what you have said, be sure to Mention them with @[insert name].3 -
AlexanderDeLarge✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, please. People should level new wardens from scratch. Otherwise we will have bunch of cp600 wardens and people who have no idea how to play with them.
While I agree that this would be bad, people will be able to find out how to play Warden within an hour of play. People don't need to spend a hundred hours leveling.Difficulty scaling is desperately needed. 11 years. 8 paid expansions. 29 dungeon and zone DLCs. 45 game changing updates including A Realm Reborn-tier overhaul of the game including a permanent CP160 gear cap and ridiculous power creep thereafter. Just because Cadwell Silver&Gold failed doesn't mean the game should be brain dead easy forever.
"ESO doesn't need a harder overland" on YouTube for a video of a naked level 3 character w/ no CP allocated AFKing in front of a bear for a minute and a half before dying if you don't believe me change is needed.3 -
Tabbycat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Some people do like to play through everything with a single character. And the introduction of the Warden class would force them to create an alt if they want to play a Warden. So I can see their point of view on that.
ZOS has been about letting players experience all the content on a single character if that is their chosen playstyle. As long as no achievements are involved with it, I say why not sell class change tokens in the Crown Store?
This is the first time we've had a new class so I wouldn't be surprised if the demand for class change tokens increases in the future. It would be an easy money maker for ZOS.Edited by Tabbycat on February 4, 2017 7:49PMFounder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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MythicEmperor✭✭✭✭✭
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I'd think it'd be easier to change one's class than to change their race xDWith cold regards,
Mythic
Favorite Characters:Kilith Telvayn, Dunmer Telvanni Sorcerer (main)
Kilith, Dunmer Magblade (old main)
Vadusa Venim, Dunmer crafter (older main)
Hir Hlaalu, Dunmer Warden
Søren Icehelm, N'wah Warden
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alexkdd99✭✭✭✭✭
✭notimetocare wrote: »I support class change if you lose all titles, pvp rank, skill line rank, and trait research.
Lol. Why? They earned it all anyways. Not like people will have something they didn't previous. If anything deleting those things would be lost forever. Makes no sense.
Oh you earned all those things? Well let's just delete all your achievements because you want to play a new class.4 -
Sinthrax✭✭✭✭
The difference is there is no class change now. So they can't be instant level 50. At least leave a little to actually game play...'
You can power level in Craglorn already in less than a day. You people.Edited by Sinthrax on February 5, 2017 1:43AM1 -
Sinthrax✭✭✭✭notimetocare wrote: »I support class change if you lose all titles, pvp rank, skill line rank, and trait research.
Lol. Why? They earned it all anyways. Not like people will have something they didn't previous. If anything deleting those things would be lost forever. Makes no sense.
Oh you earned all those things? Well let's just delete all your achievements because you want to play a new class.
Agree...delete everything. Including the character. You didnt EARN a level 50 Warden. You earned a level 50 in whaterver class you played.
Nevermind. I am about to say lots of rude stuff. You people really XXXX me off.0