Or, and hear me out on this. You learn to animation cancel as well

thankyourat wrote: »

Or, and hear me out on this. You learn to animation cancel as well

Nope, in this case of the inability to do so, i do not have the coordination to bar swap,light attack, roll dodge, attack consonantly all in one. this is something i cant change with, nore do i have the time to practice 100 hours a week to even attempt to change.

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »

actually do to intellectual disability i have the inability to do so.

Then play a Templar, and avoid PvP.

why would i play a game where i can only play half of the game, also you have to animation cancel in order to hit 30k dps in PVE so moot point.

alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »

The end.

I do not understand how you can allow a person to do 5 to 1 attacks in a fight. I have just watched someone i know and play with stoping all animations save for 2 as a nb and stop them from going off. You cant duel him and win under optimal circumstances. it is absurd. The only two ways to win is keep him on his back or out heal his damage.

You clearly don't understand how AC works, if you still think that you can do 5 attacks in 1 second or some BS like that. Go learn it yourself or stop whining, it's a part of the game and the devs said they aren't removing it anytime soon so you are wasting your breath.

You could have learned it in the time it took you to post. Also it's not going away so this is a learn to play eso, it's almost three years since it has been in the game.

OP I understand your problem and when you can't compete due to physical or mental limitations then it sucks.

However ZOS has chosen to take this route with their combat system as it makes for a more fluent game than what it would be without it. You're options suck but they will be; remain with the game and accept this is a feature and do what you can to work with it or leave the game for one more focused on tab target combat like WoW, SWTOR, EVE Online where there are less actions required to fight.

I know one of my old guilds had someone who wasn't able to do fast gameplay due to physical disabilities, because of this they always helped us in PvP by setting up siege weapons and supporting us from the back. It changed a lot of fights for us always knowing that person would be there with the siege we needed for support.

Turelus wrote: »

OP I understand your problem and when you can't compete due to physical or mental limitations then it sucks.

However ZOS has chosen to take this route with their combat system as it makes for a more fluent game than what it would be without it. You're options suck but they will be; remain with the game and accept this is a feature and do what you can to work with it or leave the game for one more focused on tab target combat like WoW, SWTOR, EVE Online where there are less actions required to fight.

I know one of my old guilds had someone who wasn't able to do fast gameplay due to physical disabilities, because of this they always helped us in PvP by setting up siege weapons and supporting us from the back. It changed a lot of fights for us always knowing that person would be there with the siege we needed for support.

Thank you for your words, however it just makes me feel like trash

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »

The end.

I do not understand how you can allow a person to do 5 to 1 attacks in a fight. I have just watched someone i know and play with stoping all animations save for 2 as a nb and stop them from going off. You cant duel him and win under optimal circumstances. it is absurd. The only two ways to win is keep him on his back or out heal his damage.

What is absurd about stopping the animations from going off? Those skills should be instant according to their tooltips. Animations are not unique to skills anyway, unlike particle effects. Maybe those animations should be made shorter to be instant like the skills they represent. If you can play the game and occasionally win against this friend of yours then there is no excuse why you can't also learn to do it yourself. Why would your intellectual disability allow you to do everything in game except animation cancel? I think that if you believe that then you don't really understand how easy it is to animation cancel.

First, i have never won fighting him, second the effects don't even go off, excluding 2 which are 2 ground AoE's. So explain then? You can cancel the animation by light waving while bar-swapping at the exact same time in such a way that you can not react because you can not see the actual animation go off, nor can you see the effects go off in order to block said effect.

alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

OP I understand your problem and when you can't compete due to physical or mental limitations then it sucks.

However ZOS has chosen to take this route with their combat system as it makes for a more fluent game than what it would be without it. You're options suck but they will be; remain with the game and accept this is a feature and do what you can to work with it or leave the game for one more focused on tab target combat like WoW, SWTOR, EVE Online where there are less actions required to fight.

I know one of my old guilds had someone who wasn't able to do fast gameplay due to physical disabilities, because of this they always helped us in PvP by setting up siege weapons and supporting us from the back. It changed a lot of fights for us always knowing that person would be there with the siege we needed for support.

Thank you for your words, however it just makes me feel like trash

You really shouldn't feel like trash and I am sorry if my comment made you feel that way.

There is room for you to enjoy and compete in ESO you just need to find the right style and people. If you find that solo PvP challenging then see about working with others or play a healer which doesn't need quite so much animation cancelling.

The other option is to learn as others said. Don't expect to be blitz fast right away, start slow with a heavy attack and cancel it by using a skill, learn to block when you find a skill animation is holding you up from attacking again. With repetition comes ease and speed.

Guitarists don't learn to do speedy solo's in their first weeks, it takes time, practice and eventually speed and skill comes.

Turelus wrote: »

alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

OP I understand your problem and when you can't compete due to physical or mental limitations then it sucks.

However ZOS has chosen to take this route with their combat system as it makes for a more fluent game than what it would be without it. You're options suck but they will be; remain with the game and accept this is a feature and do what you can to work with it or leave the game for one more focused on tab target combat like WoW, SWTOR, EVE Online where there are less actions required to fight.

I know one of my old guilds had someone who wasn't able to do fast gameplay due to physical disabilities, because of this they always helped us in PvP by setting up siege weapons and supporting us from the back. It changed a lot of fights for us always knowing that person would be there with the siege we needed for support.

Thank you for your words, however it just makes me feel like trash

You really shouldn't feel like trash and I am sorry if my comment made you feel that way.

There is room for you to enjoy and compete in ESO you just need to find the right style and people. If you find that solo PvP challenging then see about working with others or play a healer which doesn't need quite so much animation cancelling.

The other option is to learn as others said. Don't expect to be blitz fast right away, start slow with a heavy attack and cancel it by using a skill, learn to block when you find a skill animation is holding you up from attacking again. With repetition comes ease and speed.

Guitarists don't learn to do speedy solo's in their first weeks, it takes time, practice and eventually speed and skill comes.

My biggest issues, is that the rate of attack is so fast there is no way to know when to block. If he is poping off 5 attacks by the time i have used 1 attack because you can use 5 skills a second to attack how does anyone keep up with that? In pvp if you cant see the effects of the attack you cant defending against them. So at the end of the day, who ever finishes their combo first wins no mater way.

alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

OP I understand your problem and when you can't compete due to physical or mental limitations then it sucks.

However ZOS has chosen to take this route with their combat system as it makes for a more fluent game than what it would be without it. You're options suck but they will be; remain with the game and accept this is a feature and do what you can to work with it or leave the game for one more focused on tab target combat like WoW, SWTOR, EVE Online where there are less actions required to fight.

I know one of my old guilds had someone who wasn't able to do fast gameplay due to physical disabilities, because of this they always helped us in PvP by setting up siege weapons and supporting us from the back. It changed a lot of fights for us always knowing that person would be there with the siege we needed for support.

Thank you for your words, however it just makes me feel like trash

You really shouldn't feel like trash and I am sorry if my comment made you feel that way.

There is room for you to enjoy and compete in ESO you just need to find the right style and people. If you find that solo PvP challenging then see about working with others or play a healer which doesn't need quite so much animation cancelling.

The other option is to learn as others said. Don't expect to be blitz fast right away, start slow with a heavy attack and cancel it by using a skill, learn to block when you find a skill animation is holding you up from attacking again. With repetition comes ease and speed.

Guitarists don't learn to do speedy solo's in their first weeks, it takes time, practice and eventually speed and skill comes.

My biggest issues, is that the rate of attack is so fast there is no way to know when to block. If he is poping off 5 attacks by the time i have used 1 attack because you can use 5 skills a second to attack how does anyone keep up with that? In pvp if you cant see the effects of the attack you cant defending against them. So at the end of the day, who ever finishes their combo first wins no mater way.

This is where knowing how to use your environment, disengage, use of specific skills etc. comes into play.

I'm terrible at all those things but I have friends who are fantastic PvP players and win a lot of fights (including 1v1) without needing to use rapid animation cancelling.

Panth141 wrote: »

It's that time of the week again, I guess.

To save time, here's how it's gonna go:

• The 'usual suspects' will appear and condemn AC and shout down anyone who says that it's not exploiting
• 425 people will link the ESO Live with Wrobel saying that it is now part of the combat system
• The 'usual suspects' will either: a) go very quiet or b) rant about how people slate Wrobel for his decisions but will quote him in this discussion
• 425 people will explain that we may not agree with his balance changes, but that - as a key dev for ZoS - Wrobel saying that something isn't an exploit means it isn't an exploit.
• 'Usual suspects' will go full potato and the thread will die.
• The same thread will appear in 3-7 days. Return to first point.

Should I call AzuraKin right now or do we hold tight and hope this thread goes unseen?

Actually, let's go with the (very) unlikely option 2).

alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

alexj4596b14_ESO wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

OP I understand your problem and when you can't compete due to physical or mental limitations then it sucks.

However ZOS has chosen to take this route with their combat system as it makes for a more fluent game than what it would be without it. You're options suck but they will be; remain with the game and accept this is a feature and do what you can to work with it or leave the game for one more focused on tab target combat like WoW, SWTOR, EVE Online where there are less actions required to fight.

I know one of my old guilds had someone who wasn't able to do fast gameplay due to physical disabilities, because of this they always helped us in PvP by setting up siege weapons and supporting us from the back. It changed a lot of fights for us always knowing that person would be there with the siege we needed for support.

Thank you for your words, however it just makes me feel like trash

You really shouldn't feel like trash and I am sorry if my comment made you feel that way.

There is room for you to enjoy and compete in ESO you just need to find the right style and people. If you find that solo PvP challenging then see about working with others or play a healer which doesn't need quite so much animation cancelling.

The other option is to learn as others said. Don't expect to be blitz fast right away, start slow with a heavy attack and cancel it by using a skill, learn to block when you find a skill animation is holding you up from attacking again. With repetition comes ease and speed.

Guitarists don't learn to do speedy solo's in their first weeks, it takes time, practice and eventually speed and skill comes.

My biggest issues, is that the rate of attack is so fast there is no way to know when to block. If he is poping off 5 attacks by the time i have used 1 attack because you can use 5 skills a second to attack how does anyone keep up with that? In pvp if you cant see the effects of the attack you cant defending against them. So at the end of the day, who ever finishes their combo first wins no mater way.

What you describe is achievable with:
1) Cheat engine. Not recommended if you value your account.

2) Macroslice, which is a bug with certain charge abilities (such as crit rush), which doesn't play animation for abilities even tho the ability itself is still used. It falls in the "charge bug" category more than specifically "animation cancelling".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YLzWXqcQ9U

If you actually look at the bars, the player still has to activate abilities. They'll all play once the sum of all abilities is enough to kill the target.

3) Emote overwritting, which bugs out all abilities you do by forcing the animation to play an emote of your choice. For instance, you can use /kowtow, spam Wrecking Blow on someone, and your target will not actually see the animations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55O5NwlL6aQ

Animation cancelling by itself does not allow you to bypass the GCD (Global Cooldowns) on abilities, light / heavy attacks nor dodge rolls. In terms of PvE, it's as simple as clicking the left mouse button before using an ability (commonly referred to as "weaving").