I agree but I dont see it happening. IC already set the precedent that for you to access a new style of PvP you had to pay or at least rent it. So while I feel that something like this should definitely be a base-game addition. I wouldnt get my hopes up.

No, just because it is pvp related does not mean it should be free for all...

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

heck NO

man these forums lately.....

I'm not trying to change your opinion but with all the PVP threads regarding lag , exploits and disconnected issues for the last 6 months , do you really expect PVP players to honestly invest more money into PVP ? Let's not even include the fact a lot of PVP players are already gone and left the game a long time ago . We can cap one out of four campaigns on PC NA with PVP players of all factions right now . Just one . At launch this was easy to do on all campaigns .

Just some insight from players not in agreement . Because you can't believe these forums .

I dont care bacause dont like game mpdes for a small group of people who hunting for each other's asses to prove their supremacy to compensite their imperfect complex.
Wait, no bonuses for backstabs? Just dont count ass hunting then.

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

I agree but I dont see it happening. IC already set the precedent that for you to access a new style of PvP you had to pay or at least rent it. So while I feel that something like this should definitely be a base-game addition. I wouldnt get my hopes up.

QFT

Maybe not now but if it's added to other zones in the future yes.

Once Pve done achievement it be empty. Pvp has no reason to sub either, no reason to support when there is no balance, 1 vendor rest all trash, no map update and lag.

Would pve pay $40 for one 12 man piece of content? Of course haha they are silly.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

heck NO

man these forums lately.....

I'm not trying to change your opinion but with all the PVP threads regarding lag , exploits and disconnected issues for the last 6 months , do you really expect PVP players to honestly invest more money into PVP ? Let's not even include the fact a lot of PVP players are already gone and left the game a long time ago . We can cap one out of four campaigns on PC NA with PVP players of all factions right now . Just one . At launch this was easy to do on all campaigns .

Just some insight from players not in agreement . Because you can't believe these forums .

@Rohamad_Ali

Ppl who disagree aren't lacking any understanding. It's as simple as this content doesn't exist in ththe areas you play now.

Regardless of the mess Cyrodil is and sometimes Imperial City....it's always been a mess.

Suggesting that anyone should get free access to something new because it's better than something current, especially when it requires an additional payment is not realistic or reasonable.

Using that logic, all types of players would then be given free access to all types of content.

I respect your opinion . I truly hope for those purchasing Marrowind for battlefields get their money's worth and feel it is a value . I have no desire to see the game be unsuccessful . My concern is just based on my experience with other games that had locked battlefields and had to un lock them and go free to play because it was not successful there . It is not warranted to say that scenario will play out here because this community is unique to other mmo communities . However I was right about the past and players leaving PVP all together here for other games and we do have a struggling PVP population left here . I would be happy to be wrong about this . However even if free I am not interested in pre made battlefields with capture the flag and death match mode like FPS games . No interest at all and hope a rejuvenated Cyrodiil will some day appear .

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

heck NO

man these forums lately.....

I'm not trying to change your opinion but with all the PVP threads regarding lag , exploits and disconnected issues for the last 6 months , do you really expect PVP players to honestly invest more money into PVP ? Let's not even include the fact a lot of PVP players are already gone and left the game a long time ago . We can cap one out of four campaigns on PC NA with PVP players of all factions right now . Just one . At launch this was easy to do on all campaigns .

Just some insight from players not in agreement . Because you can't believe these forums .

@Rohamad_Ali

Ppl who disagree aren't lacking any understanding. It's as simple as this content doesn't exist in ththe areas you play now.

Regardless of the mess Cyrodil is and sometimes Imperial City....it's always been a mess.

Suggesting that anyone should get free access to something new because it's better than something current, especially when it requires an additional payment is not realistic or reasonable.

Using that logic, all types of players would then be given free access to all types of content.

I respect your opinion . I truly hope for those purchasing Marrowind for battlefields get their money's worth and feel it is a value . I have no desire to see the game be unsuccessful . My concern is just based on my experience with other games that had locked battlefields and had to un lock them and go free to play because it was not successful there . It is not warranted to say that scenario will play out here because this community is unique to other mmo communities . However I was right about the past and players leaving PVP all together here for other games and we do have a struggling PVP population left here . I would be happy to be wrong about this . However even if free I am not interested in pre made battlefields with capture the flag and death match mode like FPS games . No interest at all and hope a rejuvenated Cyrodiil will some day appear .

@Rohamad_Ali

I was one of those original PvP "people" who left PvP all together.

I assumed the siege campaigns and scroll runs would be fun because of the similarities to Dark Age of Camelot.

The problem is they are saling it as PvP and not doing PvP. They need to sale and adjust it to purely siege and scroll runs only for Cyrodil.

Imperial City need to come as result to scroll and siege but not strictly a PvP thing. Once cleared as PvP it should be all PvE but large group PvE and that's where all gold drops should occur but it should be a lot harder and not soloable or done with groups smaller than 12.

Campaigns should be PvP or PvE
That determines access to Imperial City and the factions should lock for your account once you join a campaign.

You also shouldn't get points for player kills because that whole area wasn't designed for stable and consistent player battles.

Defending a keep or sieges should grant points


That's one way of doing it.
PvP tho should actually have been dueling but not how ppl duel in random areas.

Dueling should be a queue activity as well as a manual fight that takes players to very small arenas. Within this, the skills, effects and set bonuses should adjust for balanced fights

The issue really isn't dlc or expansions. It's the overall lack of understanding and direction


Just my opinion on it all. I've felt that way for a long time.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

heck NO

man these forums lately.....

I'm not trying to change your opinion but with all the PVP threads regarding lag , exploits and disconnected issues for the last 6 months , do you really expect PVP players to honestly invest more money into PVP ? Let's not even include the fact a lot of PVP players are already gone and left the game a long time ago . We can cap one out of four campaigns on PC NA with PVP players of all factions right now . Just one . At launch this was easy to do on all campaigns .

Just some insight from players not in agreement . Because you can't believe these forums .

@Rohamad_Ali

Ppl who disagree aren't lacking any understanding. It's as simple as this content doesn't exist in ththe areas you play now.

Regardless of the mess Cyrodil is and sometimes Imperial City....it's always been a mess.

Suggesting that anyone should get free access to something new because it's better than something current, especially when it requires an additional payment is not realistic or reasonable.

Using that logic, all types of players would then be given free access to all types of content.

I respect your opinion . I truly hope for those purchasing Marrowind for battlefields get their money's worth and feel it is a value . I have no desire to see the game be unsuccessful . My concern is just based on my experience with other games that had locked battlefields and had to un lock them and go free to play because it was not successful there . It is not warranted to say that scenario will play out here because this community is unique to other mmo communities . However I was right about the past and players leaving PVP all together here for other games and we do have a struggling PVP population left here . I would be happy to be wrong about this . However even if free I am not interested in pre made battlefields with capture the flag and death match mode like FPS games . No interest at all and hope a rejuvenated Cyrodiil will some day appear .

@Rohamad_Ali

I was one of those original PvP "people" who left PvP all together.

I assumed the siege campaigns and scroll runs would be fun because of the similarities to Dark Age of Camelot.

The problem is they are saling it as PvP and not doing PvP. They need to sale and adjust it to purely siege and scroll runs only for Cyrodil.

Imperial City need to come as result to scroll and siege but not strictly a PvP thing. Once cleared as PvP it should be all PvE but large group PvE and that's where all gold drops should occur but it should be a lot harder and not soloable or done with groups smaller than 12.

Campaigns should be PvP or PvE
That determines access to Imperial City and the factions should lock for your account once you join a campaign.

You also shouldn't get points for player kills because that whole area wasn't designed for stable and consistent player battles.

Defending a keep or sieges should grant points


That's one way of doing it.
PvP tho should actually have been dueling but not how ppl duel in random areas.

Dueling should be a queue activity as well as a manual fight that takes players to very small arenas. Within this, the skills, effects and set bonuses should adjust for balanced fights

The issue really isn't dlc or expansions. It's the overall lack of understanding and direction


Just my opinion on it all. I've felt that way for a long time.

I guess we have a different vision for PVP and that's ok . Good luck in Marrowind battlefields my friend .

ZOS is a BUSINESS, they are here to make money, so if you want to play, you should be willing to pay.

SaRuZ wrote: »

It's pretty much a whole new game you have to buy seperately. Everything included in Morrowind is Morrowind Exclusive. Any base game updates will be the same as previous DLC & Patches. Meaning yes, I got one tamriel but I didn't need Dark Brotherhood to get it but I did need Dark Brotherhood to play any and all Gold Coast content.

Yes, the gear cap may raise but you don't need Morrowind for it to do so but I will need Morrowind to play any and all Morrowind Content.

The class is exclusive, the battlegrounds are exclusive, the dungeons are exclusive, the trial is exclusive. Why would you NOT buy new content at this point? This is the first real expansion for ESO, not some new hat in the crown store, geez.

why would you buy it? for more *** stuff? a grind fest to get that one weapon with sharpened? you know how Long i farmed my sharpened sword?

a pet class where the petsystem in teso sux? just take a closer watch at the sorcs pets

it is most likly aigan a singleplayer Adventure, if i want singleplayer i go on steam and buy the gems for 20€ that give me 50h - 100h pure story

SaRuZ wrote: »

Yes, the gear cap may raise but you don't need Morrowind for it to do so but I will need Morrowind to play any and all Morrowind Content.

Just so you know:

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

To clarify, we do not plan on raising the gear cap when Morrowind launches in June. We’ll let you know when we plan to raise the gear cap in the future, but it won’t be in Homestead or Morrowind.