Asardes wrote: »

Look at the other DLCs:
Non-Instanced | Instanced Normal | Instanced Vet
IC | Variable | Easy | Difficult |
Orsinium | Easy | Easy | Difficult |
TG | Easy | Medium | Difficult
DB | Easy | N/A | N/A |
SotH | N/A | Easy | Difficult

So there's everything for everybody. I'ts likely that Vvardenfel would be the same. You can even turn easy content to difficult in the current DLCs or even the base game. Just try to solo a world boss.

I've already solo'd the world bosses, but ask anyone that farms vMA, and they'll tell you how dull it is doing the same thing over, and over gets dull fast. Also unlike vMA there are no incentives to solo the world bosses.

No.

You have Maelstrom Arena, VMOL, Shadows of the hist, and all repeatable content for the past year geared toward the hardcore player. And all but VMOL, geared toward raiders has been forgotten or universally reviled. Do I want all the content to be *** easy? No, but I'm tired of geting virtually ignored by a dev team only lisening to people who want the game to be difficult, despite whether or not the difficult content is designed -well-. (And whether or not you think the Shadows dungeons were, Play COS's dunmer assassin boss as a tank and see how much you like his slip and slide glitch.)

Lets be honest, if you loved 2014 Craglorn you'd have played it when it was difficult.

Stop the imperialism and greed. If this does have dungeons, let them be casual dungeons. Your not cool by demanding difficulty. And quite frankly, I'll take interesting, memorable, and fun over difficult any day. This game has suffered too long by lisening to these players who are willing to sacrifice -fun-, even other players fun, for the sake of success and having that success mean something.

miteba wrote: »

I agree with the fact that all overland PVE is fairly easy with some exceptions like vMA and some World Bosses.
I hope vvardenfell will be something like Craglorn was at launch... and it was more difficult because there were bigger mob groups, with different mechanics and mainly because of the first gear cap rise from VET12 to VET14.

Anyway, there were rumours of another gear rise from 160 to 180, with vvardenfell! This ofc caused a lot of tension in some forum topics, since most players are against it (if not only because of their legendary equips and vMA weapons). Any words on this topic, since it affects every one of us?

If you liked it that much, you'd have kept playing. The system isn't ready for difficult content, with the changes to DPS, gear, and all this still creating a massive inbalance, why do you want for them to rush out difficult content before the game is ready?

Barring that, do you honestly trust ZOS with difficult content at the moment? Play COS as a tank and deal with the dunmer assassin' bosses slip and slide glitch which hasn't been fixed in forever, and tell me how much you want for ZOS to make difficult content.

@Oreyn_Bearclaw (Because I dun fugged up the quote function)

Craglorn was nerfed because as much as you cry for it, nobody played it. Too little incentive, too difficult to go through, and required a group. It was -clunkily made-, not to mention far too difficult for the effort. And I guarentee you. If you increased the difficulty to what it was in 2014, people would stop running the content again. Because it's too much hassle for a chance at a drop that they can sell.

ICP and WGT are still -annoying-, and that's all they ever were. If you tell me your going through those with no death every run then I call bull. But even then, they arrent annoying because difficult mechanics. Their difficult because they keep adding more moving parts to dungeon mechanics, again, how well you can spin plates determin your success.

Nobody liked the grind Gold and Silver was. Nobody. Nobody liked geting two shot by mobs harder than Molag Bal and quite frankly those had to get axed so that questing wasn't as railroady.

As for SOTH. Two statements.

One. "Why did the healer get hit with hallucination after the totem spawned and Chudan spawned?"

Two. "Why does the Dunmer boss from COS one shot me when he's slid across the room?"

This game needs refined alot more before it'll be worth being difficult, and even then, what you attribute to a casual conspiracy isn't. Good grief, man. (PS. Consider that maybe, just maybe, it was nerfed because it wasn't being played, because they werrent happy with -why- it was difficult, ect, ect.)

Again, I have no problem with difficult when the system you make difficult in, is balanced well. This is one of the few games where I've thought "So I didn't pack my spanner and now I'm screwed, thanks." I think this game needs refined and focused to where -build- isn't an issue. I think if your going to make difficult content, you should need to rely on your skill with your tools, not what tools you bring.

Make -fun- content first, find ways to tweak it to make it difficult -later-. Or dont do it at all. Just because you enjoy poorly made stuff, because it's difficult, does not mean we must all like it.

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

As for SOTH. Two statements.

One. "Why did the healer get hit with hallucination after the totem spawned and Chudan spawned?"

Two. "Why does the Dunmer boss from COS one shot me when he's slid across the room?"

Iirc, these yellow "shadows" spawn at certain % of Treeminder's HP so you can prevent this situation. And having self-heals helps a lot.
Dont know about your second example, I havent encountered any issues with that boss. But I had similar issue in vMA (enemies sliding/teleporting around) and I agree that it should be fixed.

The totem is not, and the hallucination target is random. Eh. Some people like that design, I personally think it's ***, and as much as I hate Velindreth, I actually think she's fairly well designed, just needs tuned down a bit.

I'd post the glitch for the dunmer boss if I had a video, but it's near clockwork when doing it. It's absolutely dumb.

Casual overland with a few "OH *** !" areas

delves and dungeons with 3 difficulty levels that you can chose upon entering to tailor your challenge level.

That is MY dream.

miteba wrote: »

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

If you liked it that much, you'd have kept playing

We are talking about a new (future) zone! If it is new, i hope it will bring a different level of difficulty! I am not saying i want it to be extremly hard... just want it to bring a little more challenge.

I can give you a example: The new DLC zones! I have done all the content and i liked it... but when i think about it, the Craglorn Zone is the one i have better memories, because at least in the begining was hard to solo it (it was originally a group zone as you know it) and forced me to try new skills (or new morphs) to surpass it. I was very linear in my build and had to evolve...
The new DLCs brought new content but not new challenge to your capacities...

Anyway, when i said Overland PVE is fairly easy... i am talking about solo content! Obviously the new group dungeons were added to overland zones because not everybody has DLC´s (and to avoid what happened to the Imperial City group dungeons).
And even when i say fairly easy, i am not criticizing anything, just stating it... I agree that there should be easier content so everybody can enjoy it in a relaxed way because the main focus of the game should be that and not frustrate players...

The problem I have with people going "Make the overland difficulty harder!" Is it's just gonna be Craglorn again. Nobody's gonna do it because it's not worth it. We've seen it with every piece of content this game has put out, and I really do state, that if you liked Craglorn, you would have kept playing it.

It'll please you for a grand total of two days, then you'll eat your way through and it'll be hard...for what? New players wont get into it, not everyone enjoys 'evolving' as you do, rather being familiar with a set toolset and gitting gud with it until they overcome the challenge.

Making the new content difficult only serves to service the current player, and isolate the new player. It is thinking for today. I think for tomorrow.

Not all of us are weirdos that wanna pay for punishment.

Vigarr wrote: »

Not all of us are weirdos that wanna pay for punishment.

Agreed! Challenge to not get bored, yes. Getting pimp slapped every 13 steps would get old fast, just like the original Craglorn.