Can we have masocore difficulty with vvardenfell?

Strider_Roshin · January 2017

I know there's difficult content in this game such as vMoL, and playing with randoms, but it would be nice if we can have an entire zone that keeps you on your toes. Kind of like how IC was when it launched, or how craglorn was originally.

IC actually used to be the main area I spent time until it was nerfed to the pathetic state it is now.

Can we have a zone that actually challenges us again?

Fore those wondering what "masocore" means; it is a combination of masochism, and hardcore.

Turelus · January 2017

They would do better (IMO) toning back the players damage creep to bring player ability into line with the games content rather than constantly pushing the content to match the players latest meta.

Also sadly this game is very focused on solo accessible content as it seems to be what most of the player base want for a zone, with group based content as the option extras, so I doubt we'll see a zone like Craglorn 1.0 ever again.

ArchMikem · January 2017

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

Fore those wondering what "masocore" means; it is a combination of masochism, and hardcore.

There are websites better suited to give you that kind of content, though they may or may not ask for a Credit Card.

Sharee · January 2017

I'd be happy with the difficulty the original silver/gold zones had before they got nerfed way back.

Strider_Roshin · January 2017

Turelus wrote: »

They would do better (IMO) toning back the players damage creep to bring player ability into line with the games content rather than constantly pushing the content to match the players latest meta.

Also sadly this game is very focused on solo accessible content as it seems to be what most of the player base want for a zone, with group based content as the option extras, so I doubt we'll see a zone like Craglorn 1.0 ever again.

I was approaching this from a solo player perspective. I would like content that is incredibly difficult/punishing to do solo.

I should clarify that I want this to be difficult to every play style; not just stamina. This game coddles to magicka players, and damage shields way too much.

ADarklore · January 2017

The overwhelming majority of players DO NOT want 'difficult' content... they want to relax while playing, not feel stressed and 'on their toes' the entire time. They are not going to commit a zone that would be accessed by only a few players, they discovered this disaster called CRAGLORN, that even the game director admitted very few people played. Besides that, they stated that they wanted the entire game to reflect the feel of Orsinium, and then they brought us One Tamriel; they want ALL ZONES to feel the same across the board, not create separate zones that only appeal to certain players.

souravami · January 2017

If they make that zone that hard, they will just scare off casual crowd.It'll be craglorn all over again.
I say, make the zone like Orsinium, but make the dungeons and trials that come with it super hard, vMOL level of hard.

Carbonised · January 2017

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

I know there's difficult content in this game such as vMoL, and playing with randoms, but it would be nice if we can have an entire zone that keeps you on your toes. Kind of like how IC was when it launched, or how craglorn was originally.

IC actually used to be the main area I spent time until it was nerfed to the pathetic state it is now.

Can we have a zone that actually challenges us again?

Fore those wondering what "masocore" means; it is a combination of masochism, and hardcore.

If you want hardcore masochism, I'm sure there are places for that in a big city near where you live.

Can we please have an engaging storyline, some wonderful vistas and landscape, and a breathtaking soundtrack, with lots of content and immersion.

Couldn't care less about artificially pumped up difficulty and numbers.

Myerscod · January 2017

Masochism isn't an adjective; it's a noun. Though I do agree that having some painfully difficult content would be nice, I highly doubt ZOS will do this because they want to attract people to their game; not turn them away because content makes you want to bash your skull off a wall. (Looking at you vMA loot system)

Cadbury · January 2017

Krunkcore and Nightcore are better

AzuraKin · January 2017

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

I know there's difficult content in this game such as vMoL, and playing with randoms, but it would be nice if we can have an entire zone that keeps you on your toes. Kind of like how IC was when it launched, or how craglorn was originally.

IC actually used to be the main area I spent time until it was nerfed to the pathetic state it is now.

Can we have a zone that actually challenges us again?

Fore those wondering what "masocore" means; it is a combination of masochism, and hardcore.

when was craglorn or ic hard? *** from day one of ic release i was solo grinding the sewers. and the only times i had reason/need to grind xp in craglorn i was doing the same thing solo grinding multiple groups of adds easily.

Niaver · January 2017

I agree.

I enjoy questing and story telling in this game, but quests are so damn easy that it's literary immersion breaking. I can't believe I do something epic if I can do it by simply holding attack mouse.

IC was fun, new Craglorn group dungeons are fun to solo.

lolo_01b16_ESO · January 2017

Would be nice to have some harder content again. I mean it feels strange when some quest npc tells you about that strong enemy that threatens the village and you can just kill him with a few heavy attacks.

I understand that some players play to relax and don't want any content which requires them to think, so maybe we could add some "hardcore" debuff:
"If you activate hardcore mode, outside pvp and instanced dungeons all your damage done and healing done will be reduced by xx% and your damage recived will be increased by xx%. In retun you will no longer drop items with the following traits: prosperous, well-fitted, training, charged, decisive" (we could argue about adding more traits to that list like infused weapons or nirn)

Asardes · January 2017

Like Craglorn pre-nerf, pre-VET16?

SantieClaws · January 2017

You have visited the basement of a certain Dunmer tavern yes?

Well perhaps Vvardenfell may be aptly suited to your needs perhaps.

Masocore ...

Khajiit thought this was something to do with magic users again.

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

DocFrost72 · January 2017

Easiest way to turn on hardcore mode- empty your CPS and wear level 50 cp10 gear. Go ahead and try it, fighting a troll becomes as hard as it was before cap removal.

OldGamerESO · January 2017

Do you mean you want content hard for everyone so that when you excel at it you are relatively better than they are? Or do you just want a personal challenge? Do you want to feel like you might not survive that encounter with 3 dire wolves? Do you want every fight to be an edge of your seat experience like it was when you were a new player? You can do that by changing your CP and gear. Try inefficient hybrid builds with green gear and no CP. ESO has given you something better than challenging content, it has made the choice entirely yours.

Strider_Roshin · January 2017

People that don't want to feel challenged should read a book rather than play a game. Games maintain attention by providing incentives, and challenging you. The PvE content in this game just makes you yawn.

Strider_Roshin · January 2017

Asardes wrote: »

Like Craglorn pre-nerf, pre-VET16?

I'm talking about 2014 Craglorn.

Strider_Roshin · January 2017

AzuraKin wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

I know there's difficult content in this game such as vMoL, and playing with randoms, but it would be nice if we can have an entire zone that keeps you on your toes. Kind of like how IC was when it launched, or how craglorn was originally.

IC actually used to be the main area I spent time until it was nerfed to the pathetic state it is now.

Can we have a zone that actually challenges us again?

Fore those wondering what "masocore" means; it is a combination of masochism, and hardcore.

when was craglorn or ic hard? *** from day one of ic release i was solo grinding the sewers. and the only times i had reason/need to grind xp in craglorn i was doing the same thing solo grinding multiple groups of adds easily.

As was I, but there was an obvious discrepancy between IC, and other zones in Tamriel; in respect to difficulty. I personally enjoyed soloing the sewers. When the nerfed the adds to what they are now I stopped going there. It just became boring to me.

Strider_Roshin · January 2017

OldGamerESO wrote: »

Do you mean you want content hard for everyone so that when you excel at it you are relatively better than they are? Or do you just want a personal challenge? Do you want to feel like you might not survive that encounter with 3 dire wolves? Do you want every fight to be an edge of your seat experience like it was when you were a new player? You can do that by changing your CP and gear. Try inefficient hybrid builds with green gear and no CP. ESO has given you something better than challenging content, it has made the choice entirely yours.

There needs to be incentives. It's about giving everything you got, and coming out on top. Now if deactivating your CP improved your odds at getting certain loot, materials, or gold I'd be all for it.

EvilCroc · January 2017

Please, no.

Enslaved · January 2017

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

I know there's difficult content in this game such as vMoL, and playing with randoms, but it would be nice if we can have an entire zone that keeps you on your toes. Kind of like how IC was when it launched, or how craglorn was originally.

IC actually used to be the main area I spent time until it was nerfed to the pathetic state it is now.

Can we have a zone that actually challenges us again?

Fore those wondering what "masocore" means; it is a combination of masochism, and hardcore.

if you want masochism, go maelstorm arena.

Khenarthi · January 2017

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

People that don't want to feel challenged should read a book rather than play a game. Games maintain attention by providing incentives, and challenging you. The PvE content in this game just makes you yawn.

If everyone who disagrees with you on this went away from ESO to read a book, the game would empty out quite fast.

As others said, if you want to have a challenge, you can create one for yourself. Please do not impact others' enjoyment of ESO.

Agobi · January 2017

I'd rather have a Flutten difficulty instead

that is a combination of Fluffy and Kitten btw

Strider_Roshin · January 2017

Enslaved wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

I know there's difficult content in this game such as vMoL, and playing with randoms, but it would be nice if we can have an entire zone that keeps you on your toes. Kind of like how IC was when it launched, or how craglorn was originally.

IC actually used to be the main area I spent time until it was nerfed to the pathetic state it is now.

Can we have a zone that actually challenges us again?

Fore those wondering what "masocore" means; it is a combination of masochism, and hardcore.

if you want masochism, go maelstorm arena.

VMA is "Flutten" difficulty

Strider_Roshin · January 2017

Khenarthi wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

People that don't want to feel challenged should read a book rather than play a game. Games maintain attention by providing incentives, and challenging you. The PvE content in this game just makes you yawn.

If everyone who disagrees with you on this went away from ESO to read a book, the game would empty out quite fast.

As others said, if you want to have a challenge, you can create one for yourself. Please do not impact others' enjoyment of ESO.

It works both ways. My enjoyment is being impacted for the enjoyment of players that hate challenging content.

Asardes · January 2017

Wifeaggro13 · January 2017

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

I know there's difficult content in this game such as vMoL, and playing with randoms, but it would be nice if we can have an entire zone that keeps you on your toes. Kind of like how IC was when it launched, or how craglorn was originally.

IC actually used to be the main area I spent time until it was nerfed to the pathetic state it is now.

Can we have a zone that actually challenges us again?

Fore those wondering what "masocore" means; it is a combination of masochism, and hardcore.

It's what you get when in a effort to make as much money as possible for as little development cost as you can.

You get a game that tried to appeal to everyone , it becomes a game for no one.

The game made a clear statement where it was going back in late 2015. Online RPG, with dlc's for solo churn player bases. And the cash shop and crates are it's main source of revenue.

LadyNalcarya · January 2017

I dont know. I like difficult content, but ESO isnt built for difficult solo content imo.
If I wanted difficult solo content I'd rather play something like Dark Souls.

Humatiel · January 2017

So long as they make the new trial coming out at vMOL level or above we can make the overland mobs unkillable by anything but a rain dance and stick for all I care. I suspect that OP is asking for this though as it would go a long way in the immersion standpoint of the game relating to skyrim. I can't disagree I suppose given how many zones we have that are easy and still abandoned, it cant hurt anything to make a zone harder if nobody is going to any of them anyway lol.