Hardest vMSA stage to learn AFTER first completion?

NinthPrince64 · January 2017

Just curious, which stage do people find the hardest to master AFTER they have gotten their first clear under their belts?

Lashiing · January 2017

ice

Upright_man · January 2017

Stage 7

Hi @NinthPrince64

Hope your runs have been prosperous.

I've voted for stage 7 mostly due to the mini-boss where you should be dropping the 2 archers at the same time to avoid giving the lizard any help. his aoe is strong and i often seem to have one of the summoners which explode the mushrooms happen around the same time he uses his extremely powerful lightning aoe limiting my movement options.

Chance of getting 1 hit by the aoe or running into poison aoe seems high and if you dont deal with the archers correctly beforehand that only makes it worse.

The main Boss i do not have any issue with, nor with any of the trolls at the end of each round.

soll · January 2017

Stage 5

Ice I would say, but here is not much "learn" but random brutal damage together with ranged "fear"

on the other side, I never had problems with 7th, passing it smoothly all the times. Boss is one of the easiest (not counting first arenas). Yea, flower can spawn right under you, but Voriak, who TP right in to the yellow ghost on the opposite part of the arena happens way more often.

anyway I still hate Voriak the most

Lukums1 · January 2017

None -

You can easily (cheese) every single round now

Ice - Round 3 -4 / Defensive Sigil / Healing Sigil- Group 1 Defensive ( mid group no sigil ) last group Healing Sigil. Done
Boss - Adds - Next Adds Healing - Last Adds Defensive/Power. Done

Round 7. You can LITERALLY sit in the clense pool on the rim and never get hit by flowers ( I have 40+ videos showing this to be true ) including boss round. The only hard bit is running no sigils with 3 rangers and sometimes bad flower rng HOWEVER if you just grab defensive sigil round 4 you can just LOLOLOL to the boss round.

Maelstrom IS my *^(!@#

Danksta · January 2017

Stage 7

soll wrote: »

Ice I would say, but here is not much "learn" but random brutal damage together with ranged "fear"

on the other side, I never had problems with 7th, passing it smoothly all the times. Boss is one of the easiest (not counting first arenas). Yea, flower can spawn right under you, but Voriak, who TP right in to the yellow ghost on the opposite part of the arena happens way more often.

anyway I still hate Voriak the most

I suppose that depends on your luck. I've had stage 9 boss teleport to yellow ghosts exactly twice (neither of which mattered as he died anyway), while I've gotten flowers to spawn under me 3 times in a row once. Great times.

Artis · January 2017

Stage 7

Freaking flowers spawning and getting you under the dome.

Everything else is more or less within your control. Sure you can have some hiccups in stages 5 and 6 and sometimes stage 9. But the flowers getting you during the scream phase - that's something that can kill you out of nowhere.

Upright_man · January 2017

Stage 7

Danksta wrote: »

soll wrote: »

Ice I would say, but here is not much "learn" but random brutal damage together with ranged "fear"

on the other side, I never had problems with 7th, passing it smoothly all the times. Boss is one of the easiest (not counting first arenas). Yea, flower can spawn right under you, but Voriak, who TP right in to the yellow ghost on the opposite part of the arena happens way more often.

anyway I still hate Voriak the most

I suppose that depends on your luck. I've had stage 9 boss teleport to yellow ghosts exactly twice (neither of which mattered as he died anyway), while I've gotten flowers to spawn under me 3 times in a row once. Great times.

^ yep this is me too buddy i feel your pain lol.

Lukums1 wrote: »

None -

You can easily (cheese) every single round now

Ice - Round 3 -4 / Defensive Sigil / Healing Sigil- Group 1 Defensive ( mid group no sigil ) last group Healing Sigil. Done
Boss - Adds - Next Adds Healing - Last Adds Defensive/Power. Done

Round 7. You can LITERALLY sit in the clense pool on the rim and never get hit by flowers ( I have 40+ videos showing this to be true ) including boss round. The only hard bit is running no sigils with 3 rangers and sometimes bad flower rng HOWEVER if you just grab defensive sigil round 4 you can just LOLOLOL to the boss round.

Maelstrom IS my *^(!@#

If only stamblades were the ones with crit surge....

Give me access to major brutality and crit heals every second anyday over wasting a slot on power extraction / sap essence for major brutality on a (what is it 13 second less?) shorter cooldown and *** aoe damage.

Stam sorc skills are so legit! hurricane does so many things.. i know nb can take mirage or double take for similar buffs with the access to evasion but i think id prefer the aoe damage along with toughness/speed. and the major expedition from double take lasts 4 seconds compared to minor from hurricane for 15 sec?

"Manifest yourself as pure lighting, zapping nearby enemies with electricity dealing [x] Physical Damage every 1 second for 15 seconds. The winds grow in damage and size, increasing up to 225% more damage and up to 9 meters in size.
While in this form you also gain Major Resolve, Major Ward, and Minor Expedition, increasing your Physical Resistance and Spell Resistance by 5280 and your Movement Speed by 10%.
Converts into a Stamina ability and deals Physical Damage. Increases in size and damage the longer it is active. Grants Minor Expedition, increasing your Movement Speed."

Translation: Makes me want to change my sorc to stamina watching your videos @Lukums1 and leave my nightblade by the pool drinking beers while the sorc takes all his gear.

Not saying that maelstrom is hard for nightblades or anything, just that watching a stam sorc do it without using vigor 5000 times is awesome.

j_s · January 2017

Stage 7

stage 7 because of the rng flowers

Lukums1 · January 2017

j_s wrote: »

stage 7 because of the rng flowers

Which can be avoided by stepping 1m into the pool on every round and the boss round

just saying.

Lukums1 · January 2017

Upright_man wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

soll wrote: »

Ice I would say, but here is not much "learn" but random brutal damage together with ranged "fear"

on the other side, I never had problems with 7th, passing it smoothly all the times. Boss is one of the easiest (not counting first arenas). Yea, flower can spawn right under you, but Voriak, who TP right in to the yellow ghost on the opposite part of the arena happens way more often.

anyway I still hate Voriak the most

I suppose that depends on your luck. I've had stage 9 boss teleport to yellow ghosts exactly twice (neither of which mattered as he died anyway), while I've gotten flowers to spawn under me 3 times in a row once. Great times.

^ yep this is me too buddy i feel your pain lol.

Lukums1 wrote: »

None -

You can easily (cheese) every single round now

Ice - Round 3 -4 / Defensive Sigil / Healing Sigil- Group 1 Defensive ( mid group no sigil ) last group Healing Sigil. Done
Boss - Adds - Next Adds Healing - Last Adds Defensive/Power. Done

Round 7. You can LITERALLY sit in the clense pool on the rim and never get hit by flowers ( I have 40+ videos showing this to be true ) including boss round. The only hard bit is running no sigils with 3 rangers and sometimes bad flower rng HOWEVER if you just grab defensive sigil round 4 you can just LOLOLOL to the boss round.

Maelstrom IS my *^(!@#

If only stamblades were the ones with crit surge....

Give me access to major brutality and crit heals every second anyday over wasting a slot on power extraction / sap essence for major brutality on a (what is it 13 second less?) shorter cooldown and *** aoe damage.

Stam sorc skills are so legit! hurricane does so many things.. i know nb can take mirage or double take for similar buffs with the access to evasion but i think id prefer the aoe damage along with toughness/speed. and the major expedition from double take lasts 4 seconds compared to minor from hurricane for 15 sec?

"Manifest yourself as pure lighting, zapping nearby enemies with electricity dealing [x] Physical Damage every 1 second for 15 seconds. The winds grow in damage and size, increasing up to 225% more damage and up to 9 meters in size.
While in this form you also gain Major Resolve, Major Ward, and Minor Expedition, increasing your Physical Resistance and Spell Resistance by 5280 and your Movement Speed by 10%.
Converts into a Stamina ability and deals Physical Damage. Increases in size and damage the longer it is active. Grants Minor Expedition, increasing your Movement Speed."

Translation: Makes me want to change my sorc to stamina watching your videos @Lukums1 and leave my nightblade by the pool drinking beers while the sorc takes all his gear.

Not saying that maelstrom is hard for nightblades or anything, just that watching a stam sorc do it without using vigor 5000 times is awesome.

@Upright_man

Yep basically, NB is super dooper hard.

Even for me... someone who smashes sorc (no vigor), Dk.. stam 1 heal... nb is another beast all together.

However, general rules still apply... sigils at each moment will get you effectively a clear with minimal issues.
NB is hard because you need to get cloak OR the major resistances (somehow) if that's you spamming surprise attack go for gold.

Sorc is just too easy... too straight forward with little to no dramas... it's nice to get completes on other classes but when you can put your head on your controller and rub your face all over it... and get a 40-45minute maelstrom clear... and a 565k score... why would you run anything else...

Upright_man · January 2017

Stage 7

Lukums1 wrote: »

Upright_man wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

soll wrote: »

Ice I would say, but here is not much "learn" but random brutal damage together with ranged "fear"

on the other side, I never had problems with 7th, passing it smoothly all the times. Boss is one of the easiest (not counting first arenas). Yea, flower can spawn right under you, but Voriak, who TP right in to the yellow ghost on the opposite part of the arena happens way more often.

anyway I still hate Voriak the most

I suppose that depends on your luck. I've had stage 9 boss teleport to yellow ghosts exactly twice (neither of which mattered as he died anyway), while I've gotten flowers to spawn under me 3 times in a row once. Great times.

^ yep this is me too buddy i feel your pain lol.

Lukums1 wrote: »

None -

You can easily (cheese) every single round now

Ice - Round 3 -4 / Defensive Sigil / Healing Sigil- Group 1 Defensive ( mid group no sigil ) last group Healing Sigil. Done
Boss - Adds - Next Adds Healing - Last Adds Defensive/Power. Done

Round 7. You can LITERALLY sit in the clense pool on the rim and never get hit by flowers ( I have 40+ videos showing this to be true ) including boss round. The only hard bit is running no sigils with 3 rangers and sometimes bad flower rng HOWEVER if you just grab defensive sigil round 4 you can just LOLOLOL to the boss round.

Maelstrom IS my *^(!@#

If only stamblades were the ones with crit surge....

Give me access to major brutality and crit heals every second anyday over wasting a slot on power extraction / sap essence for major brutality on a (what is it 13 second less?) shorter cooldown and *** aoe damage.

Stam sorc skills are so legit! hurricane does so many things.. i know nb can take mirage or double take for similar buffs with the access to evasion but i think id prefer the aoe damage along with toughness/speed. and the major expedition from double take lasts 4 seconds compared to minor from hurricane for 15 sec?

"Manifest yourself as pure lighting, zapping nearby enemies with electricity dealing [x] Physical Damage every 1 second for 15 seconds. The winds grow in damage and size, increasing up to 225% more damage and up to 9 meters in size.
While in this form you also gain Major Resolve, Major Ward, and Minor Expedition, increasing your Physical Resistance and Spell Resistance by 5280 and your Movement Speed by 10%.
Converts into a Stamina ability and deals Physical Damage. Increases in size and damage the longer it is active. Grants Minor Expedition, increasing your Movement Speed."

Translation: Makes me want to change my sorc to stamina watching your videos @Lukums1 and leave my nightblade by the pool drinking beers while the sorc takes all his gear.

Not saying that maelstrom is hard for nightblades or anything, just that watching a stam sorc do it without using vigor 5000 times is awesome.

@Upright_man

Yep basically, NB is super dooper hard.

Even for me... someone who smashes sorc (no vigor), Dk.. stam 1 heal... nb is another beast all together.

However, general rules still apply... sigils at each moment will get you effectively a clear with minimal issues.
NB is hard because you need to get cloak OR the major resistances (somehow) if that's you spamming surprise attack go for gold.

Sorc is just too easy... too straight forward with little to no dramas... it's nice to get completes on other classes but when you can put your head on your controller and rub your face all over it... and get a 40-45minute maelstrom clear... and a 565k score... why would you run anything else...

Yeah exactly, it might be harder but its definitely achieveable with the right tactics. ive cleared it heaps now and yep suprise attack spam for the major resistances is awesome. None of my leaderboard rewards have been worth **** though XD.

Lmfao

love the rub face tactic Luke, keep it up

Lukums1 · January 2017

Upright_man wrote: »

Lukums1 wrote: »

Upright_man wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

soll wrote: »

Ice I would say, but here is not much "learn" but random brutal damage together with ranged "fear"

on the other side, I never had problems with 7th, passing it smoothly all the times. Boss is one of the easiest (not counting first arenas). Yea, flower can spawn right under you, but Voriak, who TP right in to the yellow ghost on the opposite part of the arena happens way more often.

anyway I still hate Voriak the most

I suppose that depends on your luck. I've had stage 9 boss teleport to yellow ghosts exactly twice (neither of which mattered as he died anyway), while I've gotten flowers to spawn under me 3 times in a row once. Great times.

^ yep this is me too buddy i feel your pain lol.

Lukums1 wrote: »

None -

You can easily (cheese) every single round now

Ice - Round 3 -4 / Defensive Sigil / Healing Sigil- Group 1 Defensive ( mid group no sigil ) last group Healing Sigil. Done
Boss - Adds - Next Adds Healing - Last Adds Defensive/Power. Done

Round 7. You can LITERALLY sit in the clense pool on the rim and never get hit by flowers ( I have 40+ videos showing this to be true ) including boss round. The only hard bit is running no sigils with 3 rangers and sometimes bad flower rng HOWEVER if you just grab defensive sigil round 4 you can just LOLOLOL to the boss round.

Maelstrom IS my *^(!@#

If only stamblades were the ones with crit surge....

Give me access to major brutality and crit heals every second anyday over wasting a slot on power extraction / sap essence for major brutality on a (what is it 13 second less?) shorter cooldown and *** aoe damage.

Stam sorc skills are so legit! hurricane does so many things.. i know nb can take mirage or double take for similar buffs with the access to evasion but i think id prefer the aoe damage along with toughness/speed. and the major expedition from double take lasts 4 seconds compared to minor from hurricane for 15 sec?

"Manifest yourself as pure lighting, zapping nearby enemies with electricity dealing [x] Physical Damage every 1 second for 15 seconds. The winds grow in damage and size, increasing up to 225% more damage and up to 9 meters in size.
While in this form you also gain Major Resolve, Major Ward, and Minor Expedition, increasing your Physical Resistance and Spell Resistance by 5280 and your Movement Speed by 10%.
Converts into a Stamina ability and deals Physical Damage. Increases in size and damage the longer it is active. Grants Minor Expedition, increasing your Movement Speed."

Translation: Makes me want to change my sorc to stamina watching your videos @Lukums1 and leave my nightblade by the pool drinking beers while the sorc takes all his gear.

Not saying that maelstrom is hard for nightblades or anything, just that watching a stam sorc do it without using vigor 5000 times is awesome.

@Upright_man

Yep basically, NB is super dooper hard.

Even for me... someone who smashes sorc (no vigor), Dk.. stam 1 heal... nb is another beast all together.

However, general rules still apply... sigils at each moment will get you effectively a clear with minimal issues.
NB is hard because you need to get cloak OR the major resistances (somehow) if that's you spamming surprise attack go for gold.

Sorc is just too easy... too straight forward with little to no dramas... it's nice to get completes on other classes but when you can put your head on your controller and rub your face all over it... and get a 40-45minute maelstrom clear... and a 565k score... why would you run anything else...

Yeah exactly, it might be harder but its definitely achieveable with the right tactics. ive cleared it heaps now and yep suprise attack spam for the major resistances is awesome. None of my leaderboard rewards have been worth **** though XD.

Lmfao love the rub face tactic Luke, keep it up

This week reward was:

Sharpen Dagger
Power Resto
Sharpen 2H Sword

I was... impressed lol.

Upright_man · January 2017

Stage 7

@Lukums1

Dude! how lucky are you! i still need one more sharpened dagger but all i get is ice staff, resto staff, bow in crap traits XD

Congratulations even though id imagine you probably already had all of those in previous runs.

Lukums1 · January 2017

Current bank is: 16 sharp daggers, 2 sharp flame, 2 sharp light, 1 sharp ice, 22 sharp axe, 9 sharp bow, 5 sharp 2h (deleted the rest).

Just goes to show after 500-1000 runs... the rng isn't really there is it

Masel · January 2017

Stage 5

Stage 5 due to the high incoming ranged damage. Depends on the class though, on a mag dk it's really easy due to wings.

I'd say 7 is on par with 5, RNG deaths still occur sometimes.

Vaoh · January 2017

Stage 7

Stage 7 can truly catch you offguard. Never easy to run through this Stage safely.

Arthg · January 2017

Stage 6

I hate the spider on Stage 6.
It's become a psychological issue, really.

souravami · January 2017

Stage 5

Stage 5 and 7 is toughest to get through flawlessly not because they're tough, but because of the *** rng associated with thses 2 stages.

Ahzek · January 2017

Stage 3

I voted stage 3 cause i spent most of my time in vMA back when the stranglers were bugged to oblivion (huehue).

Ahzek · January 2017

Stage 3

souravami wrote: »

Stage 5 and 7 is toughest to get through flawlessly not because they're tough, but because of the *** rng associated with thses 2 stages.

Isnt the only RNG in stage 5 which platform the trolls will run to ?
Considering how easy it is to get to them and kill/interrupt them in time I dont see a problem there.

Luigi_Vampa · January 2017

Stage 7

Stage 7 has the highest probability for deaths beyond your control. Poison spawning under shield gg.

GawdSB · January 2017

Stage 7

Every time I run stage 7 I get a spore that spawn in the bbble and I die. Honestly if it wasn't for that ring factor that stage wouldn't even be hard. I guess that makes it a good and bad thing they spawn randomly. Still frustrating.

Lukums1 · January 2017

Typhoios wrote: »

Stage 7 has the highest probability for deaths beyond your control. Poison spawning under shield gg.

It's actually within you're control.

Prob should watch my vids

You can stand in certain locations to never get flowered, rangers do however have to be dealt with one way or another though.

Artemiisia · January 2017

Stage 7

Lukums1 wrote: »

Current bank is: 16 sharp daggers, 2 sharp flame, 2 sharp light, 1 sharp ice, 22 sharp axe, 9 sharp bow, 5 sharp 2h (deleted the rest).

Just goes to show after 500-1000 runs... the rng isn't really there is it

lol why u keeping 22 sharp axes

u planing on making a garage sale`?

Lukums1 · January 2017

Artemiisia wrote: »

Lukums1 wrote: »

Current bank is: 16 sharp daggers, 2 sharp flame, 2 sharp light, 1 sharp ice, 22 sharp axe, 9 sharp bow, 5 sharp 2h (deleted the rest).

Just goes to show after 500-1000 runs... the rng isn't really there is it

lol why u keeping 22 sharp axes u planing on making a garage sale`?

@Artemiisia I like streaming on twitch, when people go " what vma weapons you have "

It's fun scrolling through 80 sharpen weapons. The tears... oh the tears

haha in all serious it's all for good fun!

GawdSB · January 2017

Stage 7

I wanna change my answer to that stupid ass ice place. Honestly those archer are the worst things ever.

I just experienced 7 again lol

Artemiisia · January 2017

Stage 7

Lukums1 wrote: »

Artemiisia wrote: »

Lukums1 wrote: »

Current bank is: 16 sharp daggers, 2 sharp flame, 2 sharp light, 1 sharp ice, 22 sharp axe, 9 sharp bow, 5 sharp 2h (deleted the rest).

Just goes to show after 500-1000 runs... the rng isn't really there is it

lol why u keeping 22 sharp axes u planing on making a garage sale`?

@Artemiisia I like streaming on twitch, when people go " what vma weapons you have "

It's fun scrolling through 80 sharpen weapons. The tears... oh the tears haha in all serious it's all for good fun!

Lol, I love that, im crying abit right now myself for not having gotten any sharpen weapons

Lukums1 · January 2017

Artemiisia wrote: »

Lukums1 wrote: »

Artemiisia wrote: »

Lukums1 wrote: »

Current bank is: 16 sharp daggers, 2 sharp flame, 2 sharp light, 1 sharp ice, 22 sharp axe, 9 sharp bow, 5 sharp 2h (deleted the rest).

Just goes to show after 500-1000 runs... the rng isn't really there is it

lol why u keeping 22 sharp axes u planing on making a garage sale`?

@Artemiisia I like streaming on twitch, when people go " what vma weapons you have "

It's fun scrolling through 80 sharpen weapons. The tears... oh the tears haha in all serious it's all for good fun!

Lol, I love that, im crying abit right now myself for not having gotten any sharpen weapons

@Artemiisia Oh gosh sorry! lol.

All... silly RNG always has been... just I myself was lucky in my instance.

But then you watch someone clear it first time and drop sharpen flame staff.

That was the funniest moment I've seen on twitch (and most angry if you ask me)

HAHA yay, I got it! Now I don't have to run it again LOLOLOL.

Oh my god, fun times.

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