the 17 points in the more armour for 5 light CP is useless. Move those into thick skinned for better returns

iseko wrote: »

Nice build. Really like how it all fits togheter.

2 questions:
1) why not just bloodspawn over 2 monster pieces? I understand your uptime is 100% over proc chance. But I find that even in a 1v1 fight it procs a LOT (dots and stuff...). You will get stam regen, resist and ulti over just resists.

2) Say you don't want to grind like mad over this. Do you think 5 lich jewelry/weapons and 5 bsw armor pieces will work. Your head and shoulder will be HA instead of legs and chest. Which mean some resistance loss. With the changes to cDB I thought lich would be a nice combo. Magicka gets low. Lich procs. Near infinite magicka for strong cDB heals etc.

Thanks in advance.

Edit: just watched again... I saw u did mention bloodspawn. Havnt had my coffee yet...

Lol no problem. I do think lich would work as a substitute for seducer but the only thing I worry about is the use of mist with lich.

Bloodspawn may be a better substitute depending on uptime as well. I go back and forth over this but just worry resistances when it's not procced will be your average light armor resists and leave you kindof vulnerable.

And yes it is a very grind intensive build - sorry

Jules wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

Nice build. Really like how it all fits togheter.

2 questions:
1) why not just bloodspawn over 2 monster pieces? I understand your uptime is 100% over proc chance. But I find that even in a 1v1 fight it procs a LOT (dots and stuff...). You will get stam regen, resist and ulti over just resists.

2) Say you don't want to grind like mad over this. Do you think 5 lich jewelry/weapons and 5 bsw armor pieces will work. Your head and shoulder will be HA instead of legs and chest. Which mean some resistance loss. With the changes to cDB I thought lich would be a nice combo. Magicka gets low. Lich procs. Near infinite magicka for strong cDB heals etc.

Thanks in advance.

Edit: just watched again... I saw u did mention bloodspawn. Havnt had my coffee yet...

Lol no problem. I do think lich would work as a substitute for seducer but the only thing I worry about is the use of mist with lich.

Bloodspawn may be a better substitute depending on uptime as well. I go back and forth over this but just worry resistances when it's not procced will be your average light armor resists and leave you kindof vulnerable.

And yes it is a very grind intensive build - sorry

Good point about the lich proc and mist... I use mist form too much as a purge for roots/snares lol. Still... Going to try it since I have lich stuff lying around. Ran CoH 234 friggin times for it. Damn well gonna use it. Ironically I have fire/resto staffs with sharpened/decisive/powered/defending. Was looking for 1h sharpened weapon... Never did find it. Bloody rng.

I was always afraid of running LA. Too squishy I always thought. Especially since I main azura... Gonna try it though. Atm im running 5 kags, 5 lich, 2 bloodspawn 5ha/2la. Hard too sustain when fighting outnumbered.

Very difficult too find the right balance between dmg, sustain and defense on a mag dk.

Edit: btw a neat trick: if you active s&b ulti and then mistform. You still are "blocking" and you reflect all projectiles. Saved my ass sooooo many times.

iseko wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

iseko wrote: »

Nice build. Really like how it all fits togheter.

2 questions:
1) why not just bloodspawn over 2 monster pieces? I understand your uptime is 100% over proc chance. But I find that even in a 1v1 fight it procs a LOT (dots and stuff...). You will get stam regen, resist and ulti over just resists.

2) Say you don't want to grind like mad over this. Do you think 5 lich jewelry/weapons and 5 bsw armor pieces will work. Your head and shoulder will be HA instead of legs and chest. Which mean some resistance loss. With the changes to cDB I thought lich would be a nice combo. Magicka gets low. Lich procs. Near infinite magicka for strong cDB heals etc.

Thanks in advance.

Edit: just watched again... I saw u did mention bloodspawn. Havnt had my coffee yet...

Lol no problem. I do think lich would work as a substitute for seducer but the only thing I worry about is the use of mist with lich.

Bloodspawn may be a better substitute depending on uptime as well. I go back and forth over this but just worry resistances when it's not procced will be your average light armor resists and leave you kindof vulnerable.

And yes it is a very grind intensive build - sorry

Good point about the lich proc and mist... I use mist form too much as a purge for roots/snares lol. Still... Going to try it since I have lich stuff lying around. Ran CoH 234 friggin times for it. Damn well gonna use it. Ironically I have fire/resto staffs with sharpened/decisive/powered/defending. Was looking for 1h sharpened weapon... Never did find it. Bloody rng.

I was always afraid of running LA. Too squishy I always thought. Especially since I main azura... Gonna try it though. Atm im running 5 kags, 5 lich, 2 bloodspawn 5ha/2la. Hard too sustain when fighting outnumbered.

Very difficult too find the right balance between dmg, sustain and defense on a mag dk.

Edit: btw a neat trick: if you active s&b ulti and then mistform. You still are "blocking" and you reflect all projectiles. Saved my ass sooooo many times.

Yeah magicka dk really is the most balanced class imo. It suffers more than any other class from the damage vs. sustain vs. survivability conundrum.

You can spec all dmg and LA but you get rekt outnumbered if your health and resistances are too low. Or you can spec heavy, be super tanky and hit noodle whips. It's pretty frustrating, hence the inspiration for coming up with something that can capitalize off the advantages of both armor types.

Jules wrote: »

KisoValley wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

DKsUnite wrote: »

the 17 points in the more armour for 5 light CP is useless. Move those into thick skinned for better returns

How could increasing resistances in light be useless?

Doesn't provide all that much is what he means I assume. I rarely see LA/MA cp being used, and only HA cp used by PVE tanks to hit a certain phys resist.

OT: Decent.

Idk perhaps it is a waste. It seems like a relatively low cp amount to allocate for the additional 1k phys resist to me but it may be worth it to dump them in thick skinned. More dots used in cyro than you'd think with poison inj, cripple, jabs, radiant, ect ect ect

Half of abilities are classed as dots. 1k armour is 1.5% of mitigation against physical attacks. 17 points in thick skinned is like 7% against all dots. Doesn't really compare

If you are combining a crafted set with a dropped one, you can save yourself some pain farming for sharpened weapon and make the sword part of the seducer 5-piece and use one light BSW armor piece.

I have seducer on chest, legs, gloves, sword and shield, and then sun on jewelry, boots and sash. It means losing the seducer bonus on the offbar, but that's balanced out by being able to get magicka back by heavy attacking. YMMV, of course.

Also, you specifically mentioned using legs for one of the heavier armor pieces because they give more armor: actually, legs have the same armor value as boots, helm and shoulders. Chest needs to be heavy of course, but for the medium piece you can use anything but gloves and sash.

For ex. Im using a medium shoulder piece (the monster drop happened to be medium) and this gives me extra fashion points for being able to make the light legs in daedric style (makes them look like a skirt).