Crown price ranges are realistic or crazy for unfurnished houses?

UrQuan · January 2017

Sensible

Leandor wrote: »

10000 crowns. That is 60 euros. 60 euros pay for half of my monthly heating cost. Or a week of food. Or a month of unlimited mobile phone usage.

The players paying this amount of cash for an ingame gadget without any use (the rightfully claimed use like dummy, craft stations, etc. has to be acquired separately!) have a very serious lack of common sense.

Sadly, Z0$ will once again get away with this. People will pay this and more. It's a sad world we live in.

It's less than I'd spend on a single night out with friends. Let's be realistic here, for time spent playing vs. total cost, ESO is an incredibly cheap hobby, especially as there's nothing in the crown store that you need to buy. It's definitely the cheapest hobby I have by a long shot.

Edit: for the record, I'm not saying that there aren't crown store items that are overpriced. There definitely are. Every crown store motif that can be obtained in-game is overpriced, and that's been the case since they first started selling them for crowns. It's crazy that so many people are out of joint over the price of the Dro'mAthra motif, when it's the same price as every other "exotic" motif once you factor in the mimic stones you get with it. But even with these overpriced items, ESO is still a very cheap hobby.

UrQuan · January 2017

Sensible

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Chrysa1is wrote: »

Pay to win.

Can you elaborate on what you are winning?

Ufretin wrote: »

10k crowns is only 40€ (if you bought discounted crowns) or 7 months of eso plus subscription. Considering the insane numbers of players who already bought mounts at 5k crowns, there will be LOTS of ppl buying manors from crown store.

I expect so. The one thing about houses is that, unlike costumes and mounts, no one really knows you own it. There is no sign out front saying "@lordrichter owns this house". I have to brag it up, which just adds to the cost of the house.

I am sure there were people who bought the Elk mount just because they wanted to be seen with it in the game. Granted, not everyone, but a huge purpose for these items is so that people know you have it. Houses are a big vanity item that only a few people know about. I guess if the right people know about it, then it matters.

Tavore1138 wrote: »

As my wife put it this makes it seem like the cost of the top houses in the game is too high and suddenly makes what seemed like an interesting and well designed game system look like an in game barrier to push you towards the crown store.

Yes. They are not selling Homestead as a paid DLC. Instead, they are selling the houses themselves. They need to make it so that the Crown Store prices seem reasonable against millions in gold. The purpose of the cash shop in a free to play game is to generate revenue, and they have not lost sight of this.

And yet, Dromathra motif in game is about 200kish for total motif if you were to buy, and it costs 6k crowns. So therefore at the price of a manor it should only be about 500k not 3.7m

I'm sorry @Kyle1983b14_ESO but this is one of the stupidest comments I've seen in a very long time. You're comparing a volatile gold market price driven by supply and demand (which is wildly different on different platforms/servers) to a flat gold price set by the devs (that's identical regardless of platform/server) and then expecting that the flat crown prices for those 2 items should somehow correlate to the differences in the gold prices...

Emmagoldman · January 2017

Too high...

@STEVIL i love crafting as well. My last mmo was fallen earth and almost every item was crafted. I prefer pvp but really I like all game play.

Im not against people paying per se, the price needs to fit the price tag. At first i thought the price was too high, but i feel its fair and sensible.

Cpt_Teemo · January 2017

Other....

UrQuan wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Chrysa1is wrote: »

Pay to win.

Can you elaborate on what you are winning?

Ufretin wrote: »

10k crowns is only 40€ (if you bought discounted crowns) or 7 months of eso plus subscription. Considering the insane numbers of players who already bought mounts at 5k crowns, there will be LOTS of ppl buying manors from crown store.

I expect so. The one thing about houses is that, unlike costumes and mounts, no one really knows you own it. There is no sign out front saying "@lordrichter owns this house". I have to brag it up, which just adds to the cost of the house.

I am sure there were people who bought the Elk mount just because they wanted to be seen with it in the game. Granted, not everyone, but a huge purpose for these items is so that people know you have it. Houses are a big vanity item that only a few people know about. I guess if the right people know about it, then it matters.

Tavore1138 wrote: »

As my wife put it this makes it seem like the cost of the top houses in the game is too high and suddenly makes what seemed like an interesting and well designed game system look like an in game barrier to push you towards the crown store.

Yes. They are not selling Homestead as a paid DLC. Instead, they are selling the houses themselves. They need to make it so that the Crown Store prices seem reasonable against millions in gold. The purpose of the cash shop in a free to play game is to generate revenue, and they have not lost sight of this.

And yet, Dromathra motif in game is about 200kish for total motif if you were to buy, and it costs 6k crowns. So therefore at the price of a manor it should only be about 500k not 3.7m

I'm sorry @Kyle1983b14_ESO but this is one of the stupidest comments I've seen in a very long time. You're comparing a volatile gold market price driven by supply and demand (which is wildly different on different platforms/servers) to a flat gold price set by the devs (that's identical regardless of platform/server) and then expecting that the flat crown prices for those 2 items should somehow correlate to the differences in the gold prices...

Well by all means just go purchase every house in the game since its so cheap from your last post.

Elder_III · January 2017

Too high...

Considering that you can do 1 single thing in your House right now that you cannot do elsewhere in the game right now (that would be Grind-Your-Ass-Off to Decorate it) I believe that the prices are a bit too high. I would personally find it more reasonable to have Large Homes in the 5-6000 Crown range, unfurnished at least. With these prices I would faaaaar rather spend the easy to acquire Gold to buy the Houses in game and sit on my Crowns from ESO+ until something that actually adds utility to the game shows up..... like Storage, Assistants with full Utility in Homes, Character Slots, or a simple Insta-Gib all Opponents in 100m radius Potion.

Morimizo · January 2017

Sensible

Most of the prices besides the DLC content seem high, for example,

Dro'Mathra motif is 6000, while all 4 content DLCs are 5500. Lolwut? I wonder which one took more energy, talent, and time to create?

I say sensible because I expected these prices to be at least twice that when compared to the previous example. After all, a Plus member could at least get an apartment with one month sub. 3100 for a small home seems a little dirty for this same sub, b/c you need 3 months, just barely. But, whatever, the in-game prices for those should be accessible for just about everyone.

UrQuan · January 2017

Sensible

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Chrysa1is wrote: »

Pay to win.

Can you elaborate on what you are winning?

Ufretin wrote: »

10k crowns is only 40€ (if you bought discounted crowns) or 7 months of eso plus subscription. Considering the insane numbers of players who already bought mounts at 5k crowns, there will be LOTS of ppl buying manors from crown store.

I expect so. The one thing about houses is that, unlike costumes and mounts, no one really knows you own it. There is no sign out front saying "@lordrichter owns this house". I have to brag it up, which just adds to the cost of the house.

I am sure there were people who bought the Elk mount just because they wanted to be seen with it in the game. Granted, not everyone, but a huge purpose for these items is so that people know you have it. Houses are a big vanity item that only a few people know about. I guess if the right people know about it, then it matters.

Tavore1138 wrote: »

As my wife put it this makes it seem like the cost of the top houses in the game is too high and suddenly makes what seemed like an interesting and well designed game system look like an in game barrier to push you towards the crown store.

Yes. They are not selling Homestead as a paid DLC. Instead, they are selling the houses themselves. They need to make it so that the Crown Store prices seem reasonable against millions in gold. The purpose of the cash shop in a free to play game is to generate revenue, and they have not lost sight of this.

And yet, Dromathra motif in game is about 200kish for total motif if you were to buy, and it costs 6k crowns. So therefore at the price of a manor it should only be about 500k not 3.7m

I'm sorry @Kyle1983b14_ESO but this is one of the stupidest comments I've seen in a very long time. You're comparing a volatile gold market price driven by supply and demand (which is wildly different on different platforms/servers) to a flat gold price set by the devs (that's identical regardless of platform/server) and then expecting that the flat crown prices for those 2 items should somehow correlate to the differences in the gold prices...

Well by all means just go purchase every house in the game since its so cheap from your last post.

So are you honestly saying that you don't see the insanely massive flaw in your logic? Or are you just trying to change the subject so that you don't have to own up to it?

Leandor · January 2017

Other....

UrQuan wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

10000 crowns. That is 60 euros. 60 euros pay for half of my monthly heating cost. Or a week of food. Or a month of unlimited mobile phone usage.

The players paying this amount of cash for an ingame gadget without any use (the rightfully claimed use like dummy, craft stations, etc. has to be acquired separately!) have a very serious lack of common sense.

Sadly, Z0$ will once again get away with this. People will pay this and more. It's a sad world we live in.

It's less than I'd spend on a single night out with friends. Let's be realistic here, for time spent playing vs. total cost, ESO is an incredibly cheap hobby, especially as there's nothing in the crown store that you need to buy. It's definitely the cheapest hobby I have by a long shot.

Edit: for the record, I'm not saying that there aren't crown store items that are overpriced. There definitely are. Every crown store motif that can be obtained in-game is overpriced, and that's been the case since they first started selling them for crowns. It's crazy that so many people are out of joint over the price of the Dro'mAthra motif, when it's the same price as every other "exotic" motif once you factor in the mimic stones you get with it. But even with these overpriced items, ESO is still a very cheap hobby.

60 euros for a night out? We go to different kinds of venues then.

That aside, it is of course personal preference on how each spends his money. That does not change the fact that this kind of money does have a tangible cost if compared to real life.

So does spending 60 bucks on a night out. With a night out, you have at least the next day hang over to remind you of what you did.

Tandor · January 2017

Sensible

Leandor wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

10000 crowns. That is 60 euros. 60 euros pay for half of my monthly heating cost. Or a week of food. Or a month of unlimited mobile phone usage.

The players paying this amount of cash for an ingame gadget without any use (the rightfully claimed use like dummy, craft stations, etc. has to be acquired separately!) have a very serious lack of common sense.

Sadly, Z0$ will once again get away with this. People will pay this and more. It's a sad world we live in.

It's less than I'd spend on a single night out with friends. Let's be realistic here, for time spent playing vs. total cost, ESO is an incredibly cheap hobby, especially as there's nothing in the crown store that you need to buy. It's definitely the cheapest hobby I have by a long shot.

Edit: for the record, I'm not saying that there aren't crown store items that are overpriced. There definitely are. Every crown store motif that can be obtained in-game is overpriced, and that's been the case since they first started selling them for crowns. It's crazy that so many people are out of joint over the price of the Dro'mAthra motif, when it's the same price as every other "exotic" motif once you factor in the mimic stones you get with it. But even with these overpriced items, ESO is still a very cheap hobby.

60 euros for a night out? We go to different kinds of venues then.

That aside, it is of course personal preference on how each spends his money. That does not change the fact that this kind of money does have a tangible cost if compared to real life.

So does spending 60 bucks on a night out. With a night out, you have at least the next day hang over to remind you of what you did.

But that will be gone by the next day, while you'll be able to log in and find that house is still there...

UrQuan · January 2017

Sensible

Leandor wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

10000 crowns. That is 60 euros. 60 euros pay for half of my monthly heating cost. Or a week of food. Or a month of unlimited mobile phone usage.

The players paying this amount of cash for an ingame gadget without any use (the rightfully claimed use like dummy, craft stations, etc. has to be acquired separately!) have a very serious lack of common sense.

Sadly, Z0$ will once again get away with this. People will pay this and more. It's a sad world we live in.

It's less than I'd spend on a single night out with friends. Let's be realistic here, for time spent playing vs. total cost, ESO is an incredibly cheap hobby, especially as there's nothing in the crown store that you need to buy. It's definitely the cheapest hobby I have by a long shot.

Edit: for the record, I'm not saying that there aren't crown store items that are overpriced. There definitely are. Every crown store motif that can be obtained in-game is overpriced, and that's been the case since they first started selling them for crowns. It's crazy that so many people are out of joint over the price of the Dro'mAthra motif, when it's the same price as every other "exotic" motif once you factor in the mimic stones you get with it. But even with these overpriced items, ESO is still a very cheap hobby.

60 euros for a night out? We go to different kinds of venues then.

Or I drink more than you do during a night out lol

Leandor wrote: »

That aside, it is of course personal preference on how each spends his money. That does not change the fact that this kind of money does have a tangible cost if compared to real life.

So does spending 60 bucks on a night out. With a night out, you have at least the next day hang over to remind you of what you did.

The bold part is exactly the point, and it invalidates what you said earlier about people spending this amount on something they enjoy in a game having "a very serious lack of common sense." That's just you being judgemental about people who find that the enjoyment they get out of something in-game that you consider to be "without any use" (when for most people who want housing the "use" is being able to have a place of their own in-game that they can decorate and set up the way they like it) is worth the price.

Compared to almost any hobby, the amount an average player spends on ESO in any given year is really very low (yes, you could make it high by buying everything in the crown store, but you can do basically the same thing with almost any hobby). Look at how much it costs to play golf, or play hockey, or boating, or skydiving, or go-carting, or paintball, hell even going to the movies regularly. The point is that whether something for entertainment is worth spending the money on has nothing to do with whether someone has "a very serious lack of common sense" as you so insultingly claim, it has to do with how much the person will enjoy it, and whether that specific person considers it to be worth the cost on that basis.

Cpt_Teemo · January 2017

Other....

UrQuan wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

10000 crowns. That is 60 euros. 60 euros pay for half of my monthly heating cost. Or a week of food. Or a month of unlimited mobile phone usage.

The players paying this amount of cash for an ingame gadget without any use (the rightfully claimed use like dummy, craft stations, etc. has to be acquired separately!) have a very serious lack of common sense.

Sadly, Z0$ will once again get away with this. People will pay this and more. It's a sad world we live in.

It's less than I'd spend on a single night out with friends. Let's be realistic here, for time spent playing vs. total cost, ESO is an incredibly cheap hobby, especially as there's nothing in the crown store that you need to buy. It's definitely the cheapest hobby I have by a long shot.

Edit: for the record, I'm not saying that there aren't crown store items that are overpriced. There definitely are. Every crown store motif that can be obtained in-game is overpriced, and that's been the case since they first started selling them for crowns. It's crazy that so many people are out of joint over the price of the Dro'mAthra motif, when it's the same price as every other "exotic" motif once you factor in the mimic stones you get with it. But even with these overpriced items, ESO is still a very cheap hobby.

60 euros for a night out? We go to different kinds of venues then.

Or I drink more than you do during a night out lol

Leandor wrote: »

That aside, it is of course personal preference on how each spends his money. That does not change the fact that this kind of money does have a tangible cost if compared to real life.

So does spending 60 bucks on a night out. With a night out, you have at least the next day hang over to remind you of what you did.

The bold part is exactly the point, and it invalidates what you said earlier about people spending this amount on something they enjoy in a game having "a very serious lack of common sense." That's just you being judgemental about people who find that the enjoyment they get out of something in-game that you consider to be "without any use" (when for most people who want housing the "use" is being able to have a place of their own in-game that they can decorate and set up the way they like it) is worth the price.

Compared to almost any hobby, the amount an average player spends on ESO in any given year is really very low (yes, you could make it high by buying everything in the crown store, but you can do basically the same thing with almost any hobby). Look at how much it costs to play golf, or play hockey, or boating, or skydiving, or go-carting, or paintball, hell even going to the movies regularly. The point is that whether something for entertainment is worth spending the money on has nothing to do with whether someone has "a very serious lack of common sense" as you so insultingly claim, it has to do with how much the person will enjoy it, and whether that specific person considers it to be worth the cost on that basis.

True, but its still an absurd price for an average player though, also frankly ESO is turning into Swtor 2.0 with all this Crown store updating compared to actual game content, IE: Dungeons, Trials. It's been about 3 years since the CM came out in Swtor, and only got 1 extra raid, and like 2 instances during that massive amount of 3 year time.

Just don't want ESO to head into the same direction as Bioware did, but it sure does look like it from perspective, thinking to deep with the wallet rather than the voice of the community.

AlexDresden87 · January 2017

Surprised....

I find all of those who placed a vote for "Too High" a little absured. Then again that is my personal belief. I'm speaking from experience of playing other games that charge compared to this game. To me the cost of the manor for example far cheaper than what I expected ($100-$200 worth of crowns). I say this because if your looking at this game as just for pricing stand point compared to lets say Warcraft. This game is asking hardly much. I used to play warcraft and I had purchased a special mount in the game that costed almost $30. And here, you can practically own a decent size house for a single player that can do whatever the hell they want with it for just about the same price....

Cpt_Teemo · January 2017

Other....

AlexDresden87 wrote: »

I find all of those who placed a vote for "Too High" a little absured. Then again that is my personal belief. I'm speaking from experience of playing other games that charge compared to this game. To me the cost of the manor for example far cheaper than what I expected ($100-$200 worth of crowns). I say this because if your looking at this game as just for pricing stand point compared to lets say Warcraft. This game is asking hardly much. I used to play warcraft and I had purchased a special mount in the game that costed almost $30. And here, you can practically own a decent size house for a single player that can do whatever the hell they want with it for just about the same price....

WoW also has account wide skin changes (not just the costumes but armor as well) , exp gear which last forever to basically hit max level, being able to purchase your sub in game with in game currency (p2w imo).

Sure they differ alot but I believe WoW has many more features atm than ESO does though.

Tandor · January 2017

Sensible

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

AlexDresden87 wrote: »

I find all of those who placed a vote for "Too High" a little absured. Then again that is my personal belief. I'm speaking from experience of playing other games that charge compared to this game. To me the cost of the manor for example far cheaper than what I expected ($100-$200 worth of crowns). I say this because if your looking at this game as just for pricing stand point compared to lets say Warcraft. This game is asking hardly much. I used to play warcraft and I had purchased a special mount in the game that costed almost $30. And here, you can practically own a decent size house for a single player that can do whatever the hell they want with it for just about the same price....

WoW also has account wide skin changes (not just the costumes but armor as well) , exp gear which last forever to basically hit max level, being able to purchase your sub in game with in game currency (p2w imo).

Sure they differ alot but I believe WoW has many more features atm than ESO does though.

I wonder why. Not because it's been out for 12 years as compared to 3, surely?

Cpt_Teemo · January 2017

Other....

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

AlexDresden87 wrote: »

I find all of those who placed a vote for "Too High" a little absured. Then again that is my personal belief. I'm speaking from experience of playing other games that charge compared to this game. To me the cost of the manor for example far cheaper than what I expected ($100-$200 worth of crowns). I say this because if your looking at this game as just for pricing stand point compared to lets say Warcraft. This game is asking hardly much. I used to play warcraft and I had purchased a special mount in the game that costed almost $30. And here, you can practically own a decent size house for a single player that can do whatever the hell they want with it for just about the same price....

WoW also has account wide skin changes (not just the costumes but armor as well) , exp gear which last forever to basically hit max level, being able to purchase your sub in game with in game currency (p2w imo).

Sure they differ alot but I believe WoW has many more features atm than ESO does though.

I wonder why. Not because it's been out for 12 years as compared to 3, surely?

Or maybe perhaps they listened to the community more as well, not sure.

Tandor · January 2017

Sensible

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

AlexDresden87 wrote: »

I find all of those who placed a vote for "Too High" a little absured. Then again that is my personal belief. I'm speaking from experience of playing other games that charge compared to this game. To me the cost of the manor for example far cheaper than what I expected ($100-$200 worth of crowns). I say this because if your looking at this game as just for pricing stand point compared to lets say Warcraft. This game is asking hardly much. I used to play warcraft and I had purchased a special mount in the game that costed almost $30. And here, you can practically own a decent size house for a single player that can do whatever the hell they want with it for just about the same price....

WoW also has account wide skin changes (not just the costumes but armor as well) , exp gear which last forever to basically hit max level, being able to purchase your sub in game with in game currency (p2w imo).

Sure they differ alot but I believe WoW has many more features atm than ESO does though.

I wonder why. Not because it's been out for 12 years as compared to 3, surely?

Or maybe perhaps they listened to the community more as well, not sure.

Perhaps we're both right. They listened to their community for 12 years rather than for 3 years

?

Cpt_Teemo · January 2017

Other....

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

AlexDresden87 wrote: »

I find all of those who placed a vote for "Too High" a little absured. Then again that is my personal belief. I'm speaking from experience of playing other games that charge compared to this game. To me the cost of the manor for example far cheaper than what I expected ($100-$200 worth of crowns). I say this because if your looking at this game as just for pricing stand point compared to lets say Warcraft. This game is asking hardly much. I used to play warcraft and I had purchased a special mount in the game that costed almost $30. And here, you can practically own a decent size house for a single player that can do whatever the hell they want with it for just about the same price....

WoW also has account wide skin changes (not just the costumes but armor as well) , exp gear which last forever to basically hit max level, being able to purchase your sub in game with in game currency (p2w imo).

Sure they differ alot but I believe WoW has many more features atm than ESO does though.

I wonder why. Not because it's been out for 12 years as compared to 3, surely?

Or maybe perhaps they listened to the community more as well, not sure.

Perhaps we're both right. They listened to their community for 12 years rather than for 3 years ?

Well at the given rate, ESO won't survive that long tbh if they don't do something.

nimbli · January 2017

Too high...

If they were furnished? Yep. Since they are not..nope.

I'm noping the hell out of a lot of things lately.

NewBlacksmurf · January 2017

Too high...

nimbli wrote: »

If they were furnished? Yep. Since they are not..nope.

I'm noping the hell out of a lot of things lately.

Very true

Tandor · January 2017

Sensible

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

AlexDresden87 wrote: »

I find all of those who placed a vote for "Too High" a little absured. Then again that is my personal belief. I'm speaking from experience of playing other games that charge compared to this game. To me the cost of the manor for example far cheaper than what I expected ($100-$200 worth of crowns). I say this because if your looking at this game as just for pricing stand point compared to lets say Warcraft. This game is asking hardly much. I used to play warcraft and I had purchased a special mount in the game that costed almost $30. And here, you can practically own a decent size house for a single player that can do whatever the hell they want with it for just about the same price....

WoW also has account wide skin changes (not just the costumes but armor as well) , exp gear which last forever to basically hit max level, being able to purchase your sub in game with in game currency (p2w imo).

Sure they differ alot but I believe WoW has many more features atm than ESO does though.

I wonder why. Not because it's been out for 12 years as compared to 3, surely?

Or maybe perhaps they listened to the community more as well, not sure.

Perhaps we're both right. They listened to their community for 12 years rather than for 3 years ?

Well at the given rate, ESO won't survive that long tbh if they don't do something.

I see no evidence of the game falling in popularity, on the contrary it becomes more populated with each update and I can only see that trend continuing with the housing update.

Cpt_Teemo · January 2017

Other....

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

AlexDresden87 wrote: »

I find all of those who placed a vote for "Too High" a little absured. Then again that is my personal belief. I'm speaking from experience of playing other games that charge compared to this game. To me the cost of the manor for example far cheaper than what I expected ($100-$200 worth of crowns). I say this because if your looking at this game as just for pricing stand point compared to lets say Warcraft. This game is asking hardly much. I used to play warcraft and I had purchased a special mount in the game that costed almost $30. And here, you can practically own a decent size house for a single player that can do whatever the hell they want with it for just about the same price....

WoW also has account wide skin changes (not just the costumes but armor as well) , exp gear which last forever to basically hit max level, being able to purchase your sub in game with in game currency (p2w imo).

Sure they differ alot but I believe WoW has many more features atm than ESO does though.

I wonder why. Not because it's been out for 12 years as compared to 3, surely?

Or maybe perhaps they listened to the community more as well, not sure.

Perhaps we're both right. They listened to their community for 12 years rather than for 3 years ?

Well at the given rate, ESO won't survive that long tbh if they don't do something.

I see no evidence of the game falling in popularity, on the contrary it becomes more populated with each update and I can only see that trend continuing with the housing update.

Well take a look at Swtor for example, ever since the CM came out tons of people flocked back to the game, yet 6 months later the game was a ghost town again, and has been for the past 2-3 years.

Tandor · January 2017

Sensible

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

AlexDresden87 wrote: »

I find all of those who placed a vote for "Too High" a little absured. Then again that is my personal belief. I'm speaking from experience of playing other games that charge compared to this game. To me the cost of the manor for example far cheaper than what I expected ($100-$200 worth of crowns). I say this because if your looking at this game as just for pricing stand point compared to lets say Warcraft. This game is asking hardly much. I used to play warcraft and I had purchased a special mount in the game that costed almost $30. And here, you can practically own a decent size house for a single player that can do whatever the hell they want with it for just about the same price....

WoW also has account wide skin changes (not just the costumes but armor as well) , exp gear which last forever to basically hit max level, being able to purchase your sub in game with in game currency (p2w imo).

Sure they differ alot but I believe WoW has many more features atm than ESO does though.

I wonder why. Not because it's been out for 12 years as compared to 3, surely?

Or maybe perhaps they listened to the community more as well, not sure.

Perhaps we're both right. They listened to their community for 12 years rather than for 3 years ?

Well at the given rate, ESO won't survive that long tbh if they don't do something.

I see no evidence of the game falling in popularity, on the contrary it becomes more populated with each update and I can only see that trend continuing with the housing update.

Well take a look at Swtor for example, ever since the CM came out tons of people flocked back to the game, yet 6 months later the game was a ghost town again, and has been for the past 2-3 years.

Really? Perhaps in NA, I wouldn't know. I still play in the EU and don't see it as a ghost town. However, I'll judge the success of this game by how well populated it is rather than by how well populated other games are.

nimbli · January 2017

Too high...

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

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Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

AlexDresden87 wrote: »

I find all of those who placed a vote for "Too High" a little absured. Then again that is my personal belief. I'm speaking from experience of playing other games that charge compared to this game. To me the cost of the manor for example far cheaper than what I expected ($100-$200 worth of crowns). I say this because if your looking at this game as just for pricing stand point compared to lets say Warcraft. This game is asking hardly much. I used to play warcraft and I had purchased a special mount in the game that costed almost $30. And here, you can practically own a decent size house for a single player that can do whatever the hell they want with it for just about the same price....

WoW also has account wide skin changes (not just the costumes but armor as well) , exp gear which last forever to basically hit max level, being able to purchase your sub in game with in game currency (p2w imo).

Sure they differ alot but I believe WoW has many more features atm than ESO does though.

I wonder why. Not because it's been out for 12 years as compared to 3, surely?

Or maybe perhaps they listened to the community more as well, not sure.

Perhaps we're both right. They listened to their community for 12 years rather than for 3 years ?

Well at the given rate, ESO won't survive that long tbh if they don't do something.

I see no evidence of the game falling in popularity, on the contrary it becomes more populated with each update and I can only see that trend continuing with the housing update.

Well take a look at Swtor for example, ever since the CM came out tons of people flocked back to the game, yet 6 months later the game was a ghost town again, and has been for the past 2-3 years.

Really? Perhaps in NA, I wouldn't know. I still play in the EU and don't see it as a ghost town. However, I'll judge the success of this game by how well populated it is rather than by how well populated other games are.

jeremiah911 · January 2017

Too high...

I could care less about the price if they were functional. Since they're not I'll be skipping housing entirely.

Bouldercleave · January 2017

Too high...

jeremiah911 wrote: »

I could care less about the price if they were functional. Since they're not I'll be skipping housing entirely.

That's where I'm at as well. If I can't get it by quest or normal activities - I'm not going to have it.

The jury is still out if I'm going to even bother to continue my sub at this point.

wiz12268b14_ESO · January 2017

A little bit of everything here. 10K in the grand scheme does seem 'cheap'. Especially when I thought they would be a years worth of sub crowns for each(18000). But with ZERO functionality that price might actually be too expensive especially considering thats unfurnished. But then again in comparison to some other things in the store it could be considered cheap.

So basically its hard to tell. It seems to be a completely arbitrary number they threw out there. Also could be (as I alluded to before) a way for people to spend CROWNS on PURCHASING houses and GOLD on FURNISHING them. So it is still a double sink, gold and crowns, but a separate approach to it.

With these prices its also unlikely to see a new tier of crowns (the 14500 or 15000 for 99.99 option I was guessing) so its another mixed bag here. if they WERE more expensive then a new tier (for a better per unit price) would be more likely, but since they arent it isnt. So now it will be the same old same old of waiting for those 40-50% off sales. Which I still hope will coincide with the DLC release but I wont hold my breath.

10K crowns is still~73 bux (regular price) or ~44 with the more often available 40% off so not exactly cheap for something that is as minimalist as it gets in terms of player 'housing'.

I think what is lost in all this is that they figure people are going to buy every single one of them for the achievement so they had to keep them relatively 'cheap'. So it gives 'normal' people access to a manor and maybe a large house, and the whales a change to get them all without going completely crazy.

Of course it will be really interesting to see what the fully furnished price is. And add to that if there is an ability to sell items obtained that way to other players.

Cpt_Teemo · January 2017

Other....

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

AlexDresden87 wrote: »

I find all of those who placed a vote for "Too High" a little absured. Then again that is my personal belief. I'm speaking from experience of playing other games that charge compared to this game. To me the cost of the manor for example far cheaper than what I expected ($100-$200 worth of crowns). I say this because if your looking at this game as just for pricing stand point compared to lets say Warcraft. This game is asking hardly much. I used to play warcraft and I had purchased a special mount in the game that costed almost $30. And here, you can practically own a decent size house for a single player that can do whatever the hell they want with it for just about the same price....

WoW also has account wide skin changes (not just the costumes but armor as well) , exp gear which last forever to basically hit max level, being able to purchase your sub in game with in game currency (p2w imo).

Sure they differ alot but I believe WoW has many more features atm than ESO does though.

I wonder why. Not because it's been out for 12 years as compared to 3, surely?

Or maybe perhaps they listened to the community more as well, not sure.

Perhaps we're both right. They listened to their community for 12 years rather than for 3 years ?

Well at the given rate, ESO won't survive that long tbh if they don't do something.

I see no evidence of the game falling in popularity, on the contrary it becomes more populated with each update and I can only see that trend continuing with the housing update.

Well take a look at Swtor for example, ever since the CM came out tons of people flocked back to the game, yet 6 months later the game was a ghost town again, and has been for the past 2-3 years.

Really? Perhaps in NA, I wouldn't know. I still play in the EU and don't see it as a ghost town. However, I'll judge the success of this game by how well populated it is rather than by how well populated other games are.

Just saying its going the same route as Swtor is, so not looking to good atm

Waseem · January 2017

Too high...

not like our opinions matter, really

its buy or bye from ZOS prespective.

Cpt_Teemo · January 2017

Other....

Waseem wrote: »

not like our opinions matter, really

its buy or bye from ZOS prespective.

or just continue playing like usual and save up crowns through the sub I guess, I still love the game but just kind of peeved at how much the houses are costing tbh.

Tandor · January 2017

Sensible

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »

AlexDresden87 wrote: »

I find all of those who placed a vote for "Too High" a little absured. Then again that is my personal belief. I'm speaking from experience of playing other games that charge compared to this game. To me the cost of the manor for example far cheaper than what I expected ($100-$200 worth of crowns). I say this because if your looking at this game as just for pricing stand point compared to lets say Warcraft. This game is asking hardly much. I used to play warcraft and I had purchased a special mount in the game that costed almost $30. And here, you can practically own a decent size house for a single player that can do whatever the hell they want with it for just about the same price....

WoW also has account wide skin changes (not just the costumes but armor as well) , exp gear which last forever to basically hit max level, being able to purchase your sub in game with in game currency (p2w imo).

Sure they differ alot but I believe WoW has many more features atm than ESO does though.

I wonder why. Not because it's been out for 12 years as compared to 3, surely?

Or maybe perhaps they listened to the community more as well, not sure.

Perhaps we're both right. They listened to their community for 12 years rather than for 3 years ?

Well at the given rate, ESO won't survive that long tbh if they don't do something.

I see no evidence of the game falling in popularity, on the contrary it becomes more populated with each update and I can only see that trend continuing with the housing update.

Well take a look at Swtor for example, ever since the CM came out tons of people flocked back to the game, yet 6 months later the game was a ghost town again, and has been for the past 2-3 years.

Really? Perhaps in NA, I wouldn't know. I still play in the EU and don't see it as a ghost town. However, I'll judge the success of this game by how well populated it is rather than by how well populated other games are.

Just saying its going the same route as Swtor is, so not looking to good atm

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that, given that we aren't in agreement on the state of SWTOR let alone the direction ESO is going in and its rising popularity notwithstanding all the doomsayers and gloom-mongers, quite apart from the entitlement brigade who want all the best stuff for next to nothing.