Thats stupid

Went to bed pissed off about this decision and woke up just as pissed about it. I just can't help thinking that this has to be the "WORST" reasoning behind any DEV made decision in any MMO I have played in the last 12 years. The incompetence level at ZOS is astounding.

First of all no one at ZOS had brains and guts to say "Maybe there is a very good reason people are not maxing out their bags and bank space.... like maybe they are too expensive for the average player?" and what maybe even worse is that no one at ZOS had the brains to make sure this excuse was not said aloud to the public because you know this is the worst excuse/reasoning ever!!

My case: maxed bank, maxed inventory and horse updates on all 12 characters, ESO+ craftbag. While I'm not exactly hurting for inventory space (I only keep set items with good traits, on sets my characters will use), if further bank/inventory expansions became available, I'd grab them in the blink of an eye.

Housing just seems lackluster at the moment.

Beardimus wrote: »

Really don't get all the fuss. Honestly don't care about storage in Housing.

Care about a bigger bank yes, bigger carry capacity yep. Which is the same difference, so why the focus on Housing if people.have a ton of alts without maxed out bags!

Spot on ZOS id say, working on statistical data rather than moans.

But also no matter how much they will increase the bag/bank or add housing space people will complain anyway.

I have no issue with it atm would have nothing if they increased bank space but it would maybe be beter to decrease the price for upgrading the bag/bank.

Surgee wrote: »

No wonder the game is going downhill if such "intelligent" people are in charge. ZOS, you just lost any respect you had left in my eyes. Oh well, you probably don't care anyway.
People in charge of ESO are like politicians. They have no idea what's going on in the real world. They just live in their own reality and look at the numbers.
I was really excited about housing but after hearing that, I won't bother anymore.

Exactly, and some people are great at fixing and running things from their chair.

Did they do just active players or did they mine the data of all players the ones that no longer play the game but made a character ? I am in a huge guild and everyone in the guild has upgraded their bag and bank space, some have maxed all storage on 8 or more characters. 3% does not sound right or a lame excuse not to do a good job

I don't trust meta information from zos, like the statement the Lady is the number one mundus stone, of course it is, it is the first stone you run across as a new player most everyone grabbed it until they developed their character, what is the number one mundus used among cp 160+ characters which would be more of an accurate picture of what players are doing.

Just like the information zos showed that the drop rate on training and prosperous were about right, but my experience is as I level on low level characters I get all kinds of traits, divines, impenetrable drop regularly, once I get to 160cp, I rarely see impen or divines, I mostly get training and prosperous once again I think zos's meta is incorrect for the end game player overall it might be correct but not for all levels of play.

Yup. Indication that increasing bank and personal storage is TOO EXPENSIVE!

Cryptical wrote: »

The more important statistic they said was that half... HALF... of all players haven't upgraded inventory space at all!

A lot of people buy games on sale, try the game out, then stop playing and go on to play something else. That's how it is with EVERY game ever made. That would easily account for that "half of all players" stat. They couldn't possibly have been counting only people who have been playing the game for 4-5 months or more. I think their data analysis is seriously flawed.

I am okay with this

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

So...ESO Live confirmed the reason why.

Seems this is "our" fault if your bags and bank isn't maxed out. This is from Phillip Draven's commentary today
*Edits...to clarify it seems around 50% haven't done any upgrades but not only 3%

I get that idea BUT I'm curious if they understand that including alts isn't good data analysis.

On the contrary tho.....they are pushing crown upgrades and offer in game gold so...that's been made extremely clear that ppl need to do upgrades or not make alts (HUH???) Again @ZOS_PhilipDraven does the analysis not also show 7 to 8/8 on accounts without max upgrades as compelling that perhaps the cost of upgrading is out of line with the value it offers?

I have 8 active characters but I only use two who have maxed inventory. The others have upgrades but not more than 4........I don't agree with the methodology explained but I do want to make sure we have clearly understood your comments cause to be fair, you were only given a few moments to speak on that topic and it may have been a question without fair time to prepare the answer.


Thoughts?

Glaiceana wrote: »

For people looking to see where this was said live, here is the official video:

Go to 00:43:40

that's crazy, I have 9 accounts 4 active and 5 bag jobs, and about ready to make a sixth, all of those 5 are fully upgraded and near the max filled with weapons to either try and sell or bound, including 55 vma. housing storage is really need to put all the crap in one place vs finding what you want in the bag jobs

Takuto wrote: »

Serious question for those who don't have storage space problems.

If you get a best in slot item (best trait, set, armor type, etc..) which is bind in pickup -- but you aren't going to use it on a character you currently play. What do you do with the item?

RNG is such that you might not see the same item in literally hundreds of runs of the same dungeon or trial.. so what do you do with it?

If I have a use for it on one of my 8 characters, I put it in the bank. Unneeded stuff is deconstructed, sold, or discarded, in that order, depending on the item.

By the time I make a character to use it, I probably won't want it. The game will have changed.

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

To be fair, they said that this was why it wasn't added AT LAUNCH.

This doesn't mean it isn't coming until everyone in game maxes out their storage, just that their backend analytics showed it wasn't as big of a driving factor as it may be for the most dedicated sorts (aka those who frequent the forums).

I noticed that people ignored that. To be more fair, it can take years for ZOS to swing by again. One of them is still shackled to Justice System, if you recall. Lots of new development on that front, right? Not her fault, just a studio with more to do than people to do it.

I don't know if I would prioritize bulk storage in the houses, were I in charge, but looking at what they did vs what they could have done, this misses the mark. If it were Homestead Part 1, with Homestead Part 2 coming next quarter, I would feel differently. As it is, they are pushing this out as "usable until we get back to it" and I think it misses the mark. Threads galore talking about that, so not going to repeat.

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Takuto wrote: »

Serious question for those who don't have storage space problems.

If you get a best in slot item (best trait, set, armor type, etc..) which is bind in pickup -- but you aren't going to use it on a character you currently play. What do you do with the item?

RNG is such that you might not see the same item in literally hundreds of runs of the same dungeon or trial.. so what do you do with it?

If I have a use for it on one of my 8 characters, I put it in the bank. Unneeded stuff is deconstructed, sold, or discarded, in that order, depending on the item.

By the time I make a character to use it, I probably won't want it. The game will have changed.

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

To be fair, they said that this was why it wasn't added AT LAUNCH.

This doesn't mean it isn't coming until everyone in game maxes out their storage, just that their backend analytics showed it wasn't as big of a driving factor as it may be for the most dedicated sorts (aka those who frequent the forums).

I noticed that people ignored that. To be more fair, it can take years for ZOS to swing by again. One of them is still shackled to Justice System, if you recall. Lots of new development on that front, right? Not her fault, just a studio with more to do than people to do it.

I don't know if I would prioritize bulk storage in the houses, were I in charge, but looking at what they did vs what they could have done, this misses the mark. If it were Homestead Part 1, with Homestead Part 2 coming next quarter, I would feel differently. As it is, they are pushing this out as "usable until we get back to it" and I think it misses the mark. Threads galore talking about that, so not going to repeat.

@lordrichter

Listen to the rest of their interview tho. It sounded like it's not being added at all around the convo on what would and would not stack in terms of inventory items.

As I recall, they went into detail about why they did not consider a furniture bag.

Build a wall around the devs until they figure it out. We've got the right administration to get that done here in the US

I hope everyone keeps buying things from the crown store so ZOS will finally have the money needed to fix the server lag or pay someone to look at the code or whatever.

ZOS_GinaBruno, ZOS_RichLambert, if anyone is being insulted, it's our intelligence. Currently my bank space is at max level, and most of my alts are maxed on their inventory, but not all. Even so, I still want storage available in my homes. It's not about just the storage, it's about convenience and organization. It would be great if any character I have could go to a certain container in my home and know that I will find all the Spriggan or Viper pieces I've collected, or Treasure maps, etc. Whatever I want to organize and make easily available to my characters, that's what it is really all about.