AllPlayAndNoWork wrote: »

Actually I'd settle for a master merchant / merchant house where they could tell me where the items (and at what level) that I was looking for were being sold. To save me hours of needless searching.

Oh i agree - though i doubt that is coming.

My list of possible housing functions on my wish list includes but is not limited to:
Storage items
Mirrors/armor racks - put a fully equipped "set" including potions and food and other things - maybe skill selections - onto one of these and be able to "change clothes" in a snap.
A variety of Mailboxes and Delivery/Runners - say each serves a given source of dailies - mage guild for some writs and missions, fighters guild for some writs and missions, Tg, DB, etc etc etc so that one can "pick-up" the quests and then "drop off/turn-in/report-back" from your home.
Repair stations - nuff said.
Active "Plots" - basically setup your own nodes - plant a patch of kresh, setup a shrine to get runestones, start digging for Voidstone, Plant columbine (or if you are an ambassador nirnroot) etc to have daily nodes that you may even be able to tailor by gear level - think of it as the housing version of the hirelings.
My take on the merchant is that he would be able to access a cluster of guild kioska like say the ones in windhelm - and let you shop from them normally just from home.
much much more .

I expect we will see some of this coming as time goes on.

starkerealm wrote: »

I would have given up all that necromancy on the forums tonight, and the constant whining about no storage if there was storage in the houses.

it would be replaced with whines about the price of storage or how few storage items you can pt in your free room at the inn.

I'm having trouble understanding how copy and pasting existing crafting station assets into a housing instance took up so much development time that they couldn't add extra storage as well.

How much development time could it possibly take to raise the inventory cap?

Simple really...they shouldn't release something if it isn't finished.

A lesson gaming companies never ever seem to learn

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

I'm having trouble understanding how copy and pasting existing crafting station assets into a housing instance took up so much development time that they couldn't add extra storage as well.

How much development time could it possibly take to raise the inventory cap?

I haven't looked at them recently, but most of the homestead crafting stations have new visuals. They're remixes of the existing brushes, but they're not just the same crafting stations we've been seeing everywhere for three years.

Mojmir wrote: »

I'll trade a few devs for storage.

Needs to be a voting option

STEVIL wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Seems the decision to place housing in the next update was the error that came from those year ahead plans. So the issue occurred as far back as late 2015 to early 2016.

Anytime you say you had to make decisions to get something released, you're far from being ready to release it

Really?

Every project (at least of significance) i have ever seen involved those sort of have to make calls or cut offs no mores kind of choices to get released. there are always scope related decisions and scope creep cut-offs. otherwise, its never "ready". The issues of scope vs time vs cost are the core of project management.

@STEVIL

This isn't a complete project. It's a game expansion so it didn't have to be rushed out. That's their biggest flaw.

-Console launch was delayed but still ended up being rushed out....many problems in addition to bugs as of today and features are still missing compared to the PC version

-the original game was rushed out and Craglorn as well as Imperial City wasn't finished

-Orsinium was rushed out....still has issues

-THieves Guild was rushed out...missing features and many bugs....that whole city has Orsinium issues at launch

-Dark Brotherhood was rushed out....similar things left out and many bugs

It's a pattern

I think housing will be fun for dps testing, uninterrupted duels, and generally having a potentially easier location for tbs and other crafted sets.
Storage in-house would actually be a pain for me. The only thing I save is gear that I actually might use. Traveling to my house to pick something up would be a new nightmare. [Like accidently leaving a piece of gear on an alt]
Saving collectable items would have been fun but all things like that got sold off long ago. And I would honestly prefer display cases or armor stands over chest-style storage.

I think for Day One, I'd give up crafting stations, assuming they would be added later. But the thing is, they already exist in the game, you can at least get to them, or get someone to craft the thing for you.

My thinking is: how many more people would be happy about housing and want to participate in it if storage was available? I have seen so many people say they won't ever purchase a house simply because it has no storage, and I think that is a shame.

Personally I could do without the chairs you can sit in. But that's just me.

I would have given up nothing for bulk storage (chests, cabinets, drawers).

I would have given up a 1Q release, or accepted a Part 2, for any of these: display cases (trophies), higher player limits, functional gardens (provisioning).

To knock my socks off, challenge features would be pets that wander, mounts that move around the exterior property, and ALTS moving around the house if I logged off in there, even if I could not interact with them.

altemriel wrote: »

STEVIL wrote: »

In today's twitch when asked about storage, it was stated that anything that wasn't necessary for core housing "get stuff put there" kind of mechanisms was subject to very strict scrutiny for making the day one release. Number of things stepping outside that had to be limited for release.

The only elements outside of that, that reach into other systems were the skeleton DPS mechanics and the crafting stations.

So, did they make the right choice in leaving out storage from the initial release or should one of these been cut out to make time for storage?

well if skyrim back then could have storage in the housing, then why not eso???

can not somehow understand that!

No idea of the different designs and aspects of skyrim vs eso vs its structure vs the mmo etc but from what zos has said housing can be in eso but isn't going to be in day one release of housing.

It's not a huge programming effort to implement storage in housing when it already does exist for banks, horse bags and crafting bags. Not implementing it has only one reason: "convincing" non-subscribers to subscribe.

Housing and the implemented furnishing involves huge amounts of materials that non-subscribers normally don't hoard due to too little space.

So basically subscribers are punished for a business decision Zenimax made and dislikes.

"So basically subscribers are punished for a business decision Zenimax made and dislikes."

i am a subscriber.
Day after free homestead drops i will still be a subscriber
Day after free homestead drops, i will not have lost any capabilities i used to have as sub (exception of course for various balance patch changes) but will have added bonus of increased stats for any housing i choose to get into - even the free one iirc.

So let me say for the record...

Ouch...zos..ouch...ouch... oh zos...ouch...oh yes zos punish me more. more. punish me harder next time.

:-)

#PunishMeZoS