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Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »
yeah thats why every character can get free apartment for a small quest
#alt-mmo-facts
Yeah think I took that alittle to far was just kind of ticked how much the housings were tbh. Just pretty sad to see the most demanding 2 houses go to the rich mostly.0 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Minus the crafting benches and target dummy, it is basically a RP house. If it had more functional stuff I would be willing to buy a bigger one, but I am probably just going to settle for a small one.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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A place where I can stay in the game without having other players running around spamming abilities or worse, duelling, is in my opinion fully functional and I don't even care if it's totally unfurnished. It's free of other players ! Yeahhhh !!! :-)
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Elara_Northwind✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You will see as I saw it on the PTS... Without any incentive to return to your home..... You will be very pleased with your home the first month... After that?? You will be returning to your house once a month at best....
If you aren't going to use a house, then don't buy one... I was shopping for a new pair of shoes the other day, and saw a beautiful pair which were rather impractical and overly priced, in the end I decided against buying them, because I knew I would hardly ever use them, same principle
I, and many others, however, WILL use their homes, so I don't understand what the problem is... Zenimax have already stated that more features will be added to housing in the future, so maybe whatever that will be, whenever it is added, will take your fancy, but until then, nobody is holding you at knifepoint and forcing you to buy one, so why worry about it?
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Moloch1514✭✭✭✭✭
✭It does when ZOS' resources are focused on these things rather than on major bug fixes, server performance improvements, major balancing efforts, actual new content, etc.
If it makes you feel better, its not! Since pts went live, there have been multiple 'bugs' in housing, but zenimax have ignored them, and been concentrating more on the balancing side (Which I agree, is just as, if not more important) than fixing really vital aspects of housing, plus, there would be completely different teams of people working on both, so that is kind of irrelevant anyway, they don't employ the same people to take care of everything, they have teams for each individual area of the game, so the people working on housing would have no impact on those working on performance/balance etc.
Yes, but more cosmetic focus=more staff=more resources diverted into that direction. That's not even accounting for the marketing side getting more resources (again shrinking the slice of gameplay development's pie) since this is all tied to the Crown Store.PC-NA2 -
Violynne✭✭✭✭✭
✭Don't fret.
By the time they release the housing as a style and allow 6+ months of complaining, ZoS will introduce another idiotic payment depreciation system so you can actually buy storage in the home.
Fly on the wall says it'll cost $100 USD + 50,000 Crowns + 400 Crates + 12 Storage Expansion Elder Scrolls (currency conversion to be determined) to finally put 10 items in a chest.2 -
ZiRM✭✭✭✭✭
✭Next for a limited time only... Homestead Motiff in the Crown Store. Price to be determined. Just a little more cosmetic to go with your cosmetic housing people!Want to become Vampire? 5k @ZiRM in game.ESO Server Status. ( ^_^)o自自o(^_^ ) SkåL!!!!!1 -
kevlarto_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
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Define functionality???
_Storage
_Gardening to plant and get columbine for example
_Shops
_Fixing your gear
_Hand made lake to fish
_mine to gather ore
_Barbershop
_increase gained xp for staying in your house for x time
_Weapon racks
_Daily quest givers
The list goes on and on......
There a ton of ways to add functionality
Right now... Theres no incentive to return to your house, once youve decorated it
I was waiting to see if they flubbed up house as bad as they did the barber shop and I would have to say yes they did, I never expected them to do a good job with housing, it will be fun for as long as it takes to get it decorated and maybe a crafting table or two and a test dummy, outside that housing overall pretty lame /sigh
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robertthebard✭✭✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »
yeah thats why every character can get free apartment for a small quest
#alt-mmo-facts
Yeah think I took that alittle to far was just kind of ticked how much the housings were tbh. Just pretty sad to see the most demanding 2 houses go to the rich mostly.
Isn't that how the world works? I know I live in a one bedroom duplex apartment. I don't own a 2 billion dollar mansion, because I don't have 2 billion dollars to blow on a mansion. Not sure I would even if I did, but that's how the cookie crumbles. People get what they can afford, or that's what they should do, be a lot less people defaulting on loans if they didn't spend beyond their means.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭You need to add Dark Age of Camelot it had good housing-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭robertthebard wrote: »Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »
yeah thats why every character can get free apartment for a small quest
#alt-mmo-facts
Yeah think I took that alittle to far was just kind of ticked how much the housings were tbh. Just pretty sad to see the most demanding 2 houses go to the rich mostly.
Isn't that how the world works? I know I live in a one bedroom duplex apartment. I don't own a 2 billion dollar mansion, because I don't have 2 billion dollars to blow on a mansion. Not sure I would even if I did, but that's how the cookie crumbles. People get what they can afford, or that's what they should do, be a lot less people defaulting on loans if they didn't spend beyond their means.
Well I wasn't really trying to compare it to irl since its no where near the cost but yeah, since its just an MMO. But to pay for something in game for 2-3 times as much as you bought the original copy for which I believe it was about 60$ when it first came out on the ESO website before it hit steam / consoles, just seems kind of backwards imo.
Just remembering how bad its gotten in Swtor over the years and realise why alot more of the player base are quitting the game as well.Edited by Cpt_Teemo on January 28, 2017 12:38AM0 -
Elara_Northwind✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭aheck1111_ESO wrote: »It does when ZOS' resources are focused on these things rather than on major bug fixes, server performance improvements, major balancing efforts, actual new content, etc.
If it makes you feel better, its not! Since pts went live, there have been multiple 'bugs' in housing, but zenimax have ignored them, and been concentrating more on the balancing side (Which I agree, is just as, if not more important) than fixing really vital aspects of housing, plus, there would be completely different teams of people working on both, so that is kind of irrelevant anyway, they don't employ the same people to take care of everything, they have teams for each individual area of the game, so the people working on housing would have no impact on those working on performance/balance etc.
Yes, but more cosmetic focus=more staff=more resources diverted into that direction. That's not even accounting for the marketing side getting more resources (again shrinking the slice of gameplay development's pie) since this is all tied to the Crown Store.
Regardless, there will always be the same amount of people working in those areas, despite how many extras they employ into other areas before a large update.
This entire update may be focused on houses, but they seem to be far more interested in the balance side anyway, there is literally no reason for people to be annoyed about housing, it has no impact on anyone, especially if you don't plan on buying a house! I honestly wonder whether some players are just annoyed because they cannot afford to buy a Manor, so they are angry and lashing out at the whole update, I really cannot see any other reason for such negativity about it
Most people are happy and excited about the update, so let people be happy, there doesn't always have to be a downer on everything! I was sceptical at first, when I heard that there would be no storage in housing, but now I have tried it out, I love it, its fun and new and exciting! Just be happy that your characters can have a home now, something that people have been asking for since the start of the game, there is no need to be so negative about it, just love it
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Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭aheck1111_ESO wrote: »It does when ZOS' resources are focused on these things rather than on major bug fixes, server performance improvements, major balancing efforts, actual new content, etc.
If it makes you feel better, its not! Since pts went live, there have been multiple 'bugs' in housing, but zenimax have ignored them, and been concentrating more on the balancing side (Which I agree, is just as, if not more important) than fixing really vital aspects of housing, plus, there would be completely different teams of people working on both, so that is kind of irrelevant anyway, they don't employ the same people to take care of everything, they have teams for each individual area of the game, so the people working on housing would have no impact on those working on performance/balance etc.
Yes, but more cosmetic focus=more staff=more resources diverted into that direction. That's not even accounting for the marketing side getting more resources (again shrinking the slice of gameplay development's pie) since this is all tied to the Crown Store.
Regardless, there will always be the same amount of people working in those areas, despite how many extras they employ into other areas before a large update.
This entire update may be focused on houses, but they seem to be far more interested in the balance side anyway, there is literally no reason for people to be annoyed about housing, it has no impact on anyone, especially if you don't plan on buying a house! I honestly wonder whether some players are just annoyed because they cannot afford to buy a Manor, so they are angry and lashing out at the whole update, I really cannot see any other reason for such negativity about it
Most people are happy and excited about the update, so let people be happy, there doesn't always have to be a downer on everything! I was sceptical at first, when I heard that there would be no storage in housing, but now I have tried it out, I love it, its fun and new and exciting! Just be happy that your characters can have a home now, something that people have been asking for since the start of the game, there is no need to be so negative about it, just love it
If this continues down the same road as Swtor did, which it is right now and going to they're will be no more content basically in the future. Look at the last content which Swtor put out 2 Single player Chapters which take about 1 hour to beat each nearly, no new raids, no new instances for 2 years.2 -
robertthebard✭✭✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »
yeah thats why every character can get free apartment for a small quest
#alt-mmo-facts
Yeah think I took that alittle to far was just kind of ticked how much the housings were tbh. Just pretty sad to see the most demanding 2 houses go to the rich mostly.
Isn't that how the world works? I know I live in a one bedroom duplex apartment. I don't own a 2 billion dollar mansion, because I don't have 2 billion dollars to blow on a mansion. Not sure I would even if I did, but that's how the cookie crumbles. People get what they can afford, or that's what they should do, be a lot less people defaulting on loans if they didn't spend beyond their means.
Well I wasn't really trying to compare it to irl since its no where near the cost but yeah, since its just an MMO. But to pay for something in game for 2-3 times as much as you bought the original copy for which I believe it was about 60$ when it first came out on the ESO website before it hit steam / consoles, just seems kind of backwards imo.
Just remembering how bad its gotten in Swtor over the years and realise why alot more of the player base are quitting the game as well.
Stuff in game costs in game money too. If you don't have it, you don't buy it. I wouldn't spend crowns on a house anyway, what's the purpose of that, epeen? I left swtor due to nerfs to PvE for PvP, yet again. I hardly ever looked at the GTN for items, I could craft what I needed/wanted. I had 5 SHs fully upgraded with all the junk I'd accumulated over the years I was there, once they were finally added, that is.0 -
Elara_Northwind✭✭✭✭✭
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No, but I love to play their game, and I really love my house Sorcerer, Templar, Wolf Collector, Housing Addict!
GM of Salted Wings Tavern and Salted Wings Housing 🏠🌻
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JD2013✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Can't wait until the Update 14 announcement and PTS.
Join us in April for the next chapter of "Pitchforks and outrage because this isn't what I personally wanted!"
Housing could certainly use some more functionality. But they do, like all businesses, have deadlines. These new things don't magically appear.Sweetrolls for all!
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robertthebard✭✭✭✭✭Can't wait until the Update 14 announcement and PTS.
Join us in April for the next chapter of "Pitchforks and outrage because this isn't what I personally wanted!"
Housing could certainly use some more functionality. But they do, like all businesses, have deadlines. These new things don't magically appear.
Cease and desist with the logic, you're going to rain on their parade.1 -
Elara_Northwind✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »aheck1111_ESO wrote: »It does when ZOS' resources are focused on these things rather than on major bug fixes, server performance improvements, major balancing efforts, actual new content, etc.
If it makes you feel better, its not! Since pts went live, there have been multiple 'bugs' in housing, but zenimax have ignored them, and been concentrating more on the balancing side (Which I agree, is just as, if not more important) than fixing really vital aspects of housing, plus, there would be completely different teams of people working on both, so that is kind of irrelevant anyway, they don't employ the same people to take care of everything, they have teams for each individual area of the game, so the people working on housing would have no impact on those working on performance/balance etc.
Yes, but more cosmetic focus=more staff=more resources diverted into that direction. That's not even accounting for the marketing side getting more resources (again shrinking the slice of gameplay development's pie) since this is all tied to the Crown Store.
Regardless, there will always be the same amount of people working in those areas, despite how many extras they employ into other areas before a large update.
This entire update may be focused on houses, but they seem to be far more interested in the balance side anyway, there is literally no reason for people to be annoyed about housing, it has no impact on anyone, especially if you don't plan on buying a house! I honestly wonder whether some players are just annoyed because they cannot afford to buy a Manor, so they are angry and lashing out at the whole update, I really cannot see any other reason for such negativity about it
Most people are happy and excited about the update, so let people be happy, there doesn't always have to be a downer on everything! I was sceptical at first, when I heard that there would be no storage in housing, but now I have tried it out, I love it, its fun and new and exciting! Just be happy that your characters can have a home now, something that people have been asking for since the start of the game, there is no need to be so negative about it, just love it
If this continues down the same road as Swtor did, which it is right now and going to they're will be no more content basically in the future. Look at the last content which Swtor put out 2 Single player Chapters which take about 1 hour to beat each nearly, no new raids, no new instances for 2 years.
My honest opinion is that everyone is being a little melodramatic about something which affects nobody in any way, apart from making (obviously not all) people happy Sorcerer, Templar, Wolf Collector, Housing Addict!
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Mitoice✭✭✭✭✭Can't wait until the Update 14 announcement and PTS.
Join us in April for the next chapter of "Pitchforks and outrage because this isn't what I personally wanted!"
Housing could certainly use some more functionality. But they do, like all businesses, have deadlines. These new things don't magically appear.
@JD2013
I understand this friend.... But they basically implied on ESO live that housing will be cosmetic and no... No storage will be added now or ever... because people dont need nor want this (believe it or not... this is what they said)
That why everyone is upset...
If they wouldve said on ESO live that we had to release this due to deadlines but more functionality will be added later... There would have been waaaayy less people upset
Well...almost everyone.. except sadiejoan... LolEdited by Mitoice on January 28, 2017 12:53AM1 -
Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »aheck1111_ESO wrote: »It does when ZOS' resources are focused on these things rather than on major bug fixes, server performance improvements, major balancing efforts, actual new content, etc.
If it makes you feel better, its not! Since pts went live, there have been multiple 'bugs' in housing, but zenimax have ignored them, and been concentrating more on the balancing side (Which I agree, is just as, if not more important) than fixing really vital aspects of housing, plus, there would be completely different teams of people working on both, so that is kind of irrelevant anyway, they don't employ the same people to take care of everything, they have teams for each individual area of the game, so the people working on housing would have no impact on those working on performance/balance etc.
Yes, but more cosmetic focus=more staff=more resources diverted into that direction. That's not even accounting for the marketing side getting more resources (again shrinking the slice of gameplay development's pie) since this is all tied to the Crown Store.
Regardless, there will always be the same amount of people working in those areas, despite how many extras they employ into other areas before a large update.
This entire update may be focused on houses, but they seem to be far more interested in the balance side anyway, there is literally no reason for people to be annoyed about housing, it has no impact on anyone, especially if you don't plan on buying a house! I honestly wonder whether some players are just annoyed because they cannot afford to buy a Manor, so they are angry and lashing out at the whole update, I really cannot see any other reason for such negativity about it
Most people are happy and excited about the update, so let people be happy, there doesn't always have to be a downer on everything! I was sceptical at first, when I heard that there would be no storage in housing, but now I have tried it out, I love it, its fun and new and exciting! Just be happy that your characters can have a home now, something that people have been asking for since the start of the game, there is no need to be so negative about it, just love it
If this continues down the same road as Swtor did, which it is right now and going to they're will be no more content basically in the future. Look at the last content which Swtor put out 2 Single player Chapters which take about 1 hour to beat each nearly, no new raids, no new instances for 2 years.
My honest opinion is that everyone is being a little melodramatic about something which affects nobody in any way, apart from making (obviously not all) people happy
True, but it just seems like ESO is taking a turn for the worst imo. Most of the recent content has been off the Crown shop hasn't it ?2 -
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✭aheck1111_ESO wrote: »It does when ZOS' resources are focused on these things rather than on major bug fixes, server performance improvements, major balancing efforts, actual new content, etc.
If it makes you feel better, its not! Since pts went live, there have been multiple 'bugs' in housing, but zenimax have ignored them, and been concentrating more on the balancing side (Which I agree, is just as, if not more important) than fixing really vital aspects of housing, plus, there would be completely different teams of people working on both, so that is kind of irrelevant anyway, they don't employ the same people to take care of everything, they have teams for each individual area of the game, so the people working on housing would have no impact on those working on performance/balance etc.
Yes, but more cosmetic focus=more staff=more resources diverted into that direction. That's not even accounting for the marketing side getting more resources (again shrinking the slice of gameplay development's pie) since this is all tied to the Crown Store.
Regardless, there will always be the same amount of people working in those areas, despite how many extras they employ into other areas before a large update.
This entire update may be focused on houses, but they seem to be far more interested in the balance side anyway, there is literally no reason for people to be annoyed about housing, it has no impact on anyone, especially if you don't plan on buying a house! I honestly wonder whether some players are just annoyed because they cannot afford to buy a Manor, so they are angry and lashing out at the whole update, I really cannot see any other reason for such negativity about it
Most people are happy and excited about the update, so let people be happy, there doesn't always have to be a downer on everything! I was sceptical at first, when I heard that there would be no storage in housing, but now I have tried it out, I love it, its fun and new and exciting! Just be happy that your characters can have a home now, something that people have been asking for since the start of the game, there is no need to be so negative about it, just love it
Cheers! Not sure I was negative, just pointing out a potential answer to the question you posed about how cosmetics could affect someone's game. I LOVE this game; have been registered on this forum since September 2013 during closed beta. I am happy about housing, although am disappointed that they are mostly copy/paste versions of the buildings in the game already and the introduction of more grinding for mats.
I just have concerns that the last 6 months have seen a change in the direction of ZOS and fear that the marketing team is driving the bus now that the Crown Store is seeing such price inflation (6000 for a motif??). Cheers and have a great weekend!Edited by Moloch1514 on January 28, 2017 12:50AMPC-NA0 -
JD2013✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Can't wait until the Update 14 announcement and PTS.
Join us in April for the next chapter of "Pitchforks and outrage because this isn't what I personally wanted!"
Housing could certainly use some more functionality. But they do, like all businesses, have deadlines. These new things don't magically appear.
@JD2013
I understand this friend.... But they basically implied on ESO live that housing will be cosmetic and no... No storage will be added now or ever... That why everyone is upset...
They weren't going to keep going over and updating old content ... Then 1T happened.
There were no plans for RNG boxes ..... we know how that went.
There were no plans to have Vvardenfell in game ... Now there's a map and a ton of datamined stuff.
Plans are changeable.Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »aheck1111_ESO wrote: »It does when ZOS' resources are focused on these things rather than on major bug fixes, server performance improvements, major balancing efforts, actual new content, etc.
If it makes you feel better, its not! Since pts went live, there have been multiple 'bugs' in housing, but zenimax have ignored them, and been concentrating more on the balancing side (Which I agree, is just as, if not more important) than fixing really vital aspects of housing, plus, there would be completely different teams of people working on both, so that is kind of irrelevant anyway, they don't employ the same people to take care of everything, they have teams for each individual area of the game, so the people working on housing would have no impact on those working on performance/balance etc.
Yes, but more cosmetic focus=more staff=more resources diverted into that direction. That's not even accounting for the marketing side getting more resources (again shrinking the slice of gameplay development's pie) since this is all tied to the Crown Store.
Regardless, there will always be the same amount of people working in those areas, despite how many extras they employ into other areas before a large update.
This entire update may be focused on houses, but they seem to be far more interested in the balance side anyway, there is literally no reason for people to be annoyed about housing, it has no impact on anyone, especially if you don't plan on buying a house! I honestly wonder whether some players are just annoyed because they cannot afford to buy a Manor, so they are angry and lashing out at the whole update, I really cannot see any other reason for such negativity about it
Most people are happy and excited about the update, so let people be happy, there doesn't always have to be a downer on everything! I was sceptical at first, when I heard that there would be no storage in housing, but now I have tried it out, I love it, its fun and new and exciting! Just be happy that your characters can have a home now, something that people have been asking for since the start of the game, there is no need to be so negative about it, just love it
If this continues down the same road as Swtor did, which it is right now and going to they're will be no more content basically in the future. Look at the last content which Swtor put out 2 Single player Chapters which take about 1 hour to beat each nearly, no new raids, no new instances for 2 years.
My honest opinion is that everyone is being a little melodramatic about something which affects nobody in any way, apart from making (obviously not all) people happy
True, but it just seems like ESO is taking a turn for the worst imo. Most of the recent content has been off the Crown shop hasn't it ?
Update 12 (1T) free massive base game change.
Update 13 (Homestead) free base game content.
It's content whether or not it's content you want.Sweetrolls for all!
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Elara_Northwind✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭aheck1111_ESO wrote: »aheck1111_ESO wrote: »It does when ZOS' resources are focused on these things rather than on major bug fixes, server performance improvements, major balancing efforts, actual new content, etc.
If it makes you feel better, its not! Since pts went live, there have been multiple 'bugs' in housing, but zenimax have ignored them, and been concentrating more on the balancing side (Which I agree, is just as, if not more important) than fixing really vital aspects of housing, plus, there would be completely different teams of people working on both, so that is kind of irrelevant anyway, they don't employ the same people to take care of everything, they have teams for each individual area of the game, so the people working on housing would have no impact on those working on performance/balance etc.
Yes, but more cosmetic focus=more staff=more resources diverted into that direction. That's not even accounting for the marketing side getting more resources (again shrinking the slice of gameplay development's pie) since this is all tied to the Crown Store.
Regardless, there will always be the same amount of people working in those areas, despite how many extras they employ into other areas before a large update.
This entire update may be focused on houses, but they seem to be far more interested in the balance side anyway, there is literally no reason for people to be annoyed about housing, it has no impact on anyone, especially if you don't plan on buying a house! I honestly wonder whether some players are just annoyed because they cannot afford to buy a Manor, so they are angry and lashing out at the whole update, I really cannot see any other reason for such negativity about it
Most people are happy and excited about the update, so let people be happy, there doesn't always have to be a downer on everything! I was sceptical at first, when I heard that there would be no storage in housing, but now I have tried it out, I love it, its fun and new and exciting! Just be happy that your characters can have a home now, something that people have been asking for since the start of the game, there is no need to be so negative about it, just love it
Cheers! Not sure I was negative, just pointing out a potential answer to the question you posed about how cosmetics could affect someone's game. I LOVE this game; have been registered on this forum since September 2013 during closed beta. I am happy about housing, although am disappointed that they are mostly copy/paste versions of the buildings in the game already and the introduction of more grinding for mats.
I just have concerns that the last 6 months have seen a change in the direction of ZOS and fear that the marketing team is driving the bus now that the Crown Store is seeing such price inflation (6000 for a motif??). Cheers and have a great weekend!
I have also been here since beta, and also disagree with things such as crown crates etc. But I also see things like that, just like housing, as a choice... You don't have to buy them if you don't like them! Maybe the game will take a bad turn, and one day the game will die ofc, but for now I am just enjoying it for what it is, and for me, housing is the most exciting update in a long time!
Also, I am glad that housing is more on the cosmetic side, if they added too many benefits, it would be verging on 'pay to win' seeing as people who have too much time to spare or too much money to burn would be at an advantage, and that really would be going in the wrong direction!Sorcerer, Templar, Wolf Collector, Housing Addict!
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✭✭✭aheck1111_ESO wrote: »aheck1111_ESO wrote: »It does when ZOS' resources are focused on these things rather than on major bug fixes, server performance improvements, major balancing efforts, actual new content, etc.
If it makes you feel better, its not! Since pts went live, there have been multiple 'bugs' in housing, but zenimax have ignored them, and been concentrating more on the balancing side (Which I agree, is just as, if not more important) than fixing really vital aspects of housing, plus, there would be completely different teams of people working on both, so that is kind of irrelevant anyway, they don't employ the same people to take care of everything, they have teams for each individual area of the game, so the people working on housing would have no impact on those working on performance/balance etc.
Yes, but more cosmetic focus=more staff=more resources diverted into that direction. That's not even accounting for the marketing side getting more resources (again shrinking the slice of gameplay development's pie) since this is all tied to the Crown Store.
Regardless, there will always be the same amount of people working in those areas, despite how many extras they employ into other areas before a large update.
This entire update may be focused on houses, but they seem to be far more interested in the balance side anyway, there is literally no reason for people to be annoyed about housing, it has no impact on anyone, especially if you don't plan on buying a house! I honestly wonder whether some players are just annoyed because they cannot afford to buy a Manor, so they are angry and lashing out at the whole update, I really cannot see any other reason for such negativity about it
Most people are happy and excited about the update, so let people be happy, there doesn't always have to be a downer on everything! I was sceptical at first, when I heard that there would be no storage in housing, but now I have tried it out, I love it, its fun and new and exciting! Just be happy that your characters can have a home now, something that people have been asking for since the start of the game, there is no need to be so negative about it, just love it
Cheers! Not sure I was negative, just pointing out a potential answer to the question you posed about how cosmetics could affect someone's game. I LOVE this game; have been registered on this forum since September 2013 during closed beta. I am happy about housing, although am disappointed that they are mostly copy/paste versions of the buildings in the game already and the introduction of more grinding for mats.
I just have concerns that the last 6 months have seen a change in the direction of ZOS and fear that the marketing team is driving the bus now that the Crown Store is seeing such price inflation (6000 for a motif??). Cheers and have a great weekend!
I have also been here since beta, and also disagree with things such as crown crates etc. But I also see things like that, just like housing, as a choice... You don't have to buy them if you don't like them! Maybe the game will take a bad turn, and one day the game will die ofc, but for now I am just enjoying it for what it is, and for me, housing is the most exciting update in a long time!
Also, I am glad that housing is more on the cosmetic side, if they added too many benefits, it would be verging on 'pay to win' seeing as people who have too much time to spare or too much money to burn would be at an advantage, and that really would be going in the wrong direction!
True I also like its more cosmetic than a P2W feature, guess alot of us returning players will just have to save up for a couple months to get the mansion I guess.0 -
Zvorgin✭✭✭✭✭Can't wait until the Update 14 announcement and PTS.
Join us in April for the next chapter of "Pitchforks and outrage because this isn't what I personally wanted!"
Housing could certainly use some more functionality. But they do, like all businesses, have deadlines. These new things don't magically appear.
@JD2013
I understand this friend.... But they basically implied on ESO live that housing will be cosmetic and no... No storage will be added now or ever... That why everyone is upset...
They weren't going to keep going over and updating old content ... Then 1T happened.
There were no plans for RNG boxes ..... we know how that went.
There were no plans to have Vvardenfell in game ... Now there's a map and a ton of datamined stuff.
Plans are changeable.Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »aheck1111_ESO wrote: »It does when ZOS' resources are focused on these things rather than on major bug fixes, server performance improvements, major balancing efforts, actual new content, etc.
If it makes you feel better, its not! Since pts went live, there have been multiple 'bugs' in housing, but zenimax have ignored them, and been concentrating more on the balancing side (Which I agree, is just as, if not more important) than fixing really vital aspects of housing, plus, there would be completely different teams of people working on both, so that is kind of irrelevant anyway, they don't employ the same people to take care of everything, they have teams for each individual area of the game, so the people working on housing would have no impact on those working on performance/balance etc.
Yes, but more cosmetic focus=more staff=more resources diverted into that direction. That's not even accounting for the marketing side getting more resources (again shrinking the slice of gameplay development's pie) since this is all tied to the Crown Store.
Regardless, there will always be the same amount of people working in those areas, despite how many extras they employ into other areas before a large update.
This entire update may be focused on houses, but they seem to be far more interested in the balance side anyway, there is literally no reason for people to be annoyed about housing, it has no impact on anyone, especially if you don't plan on buying a house! I honestly wonder whether some players are just annoyed because they cannot afford to buy a Manor, so they are angry and lashing out at the whole update, I really cannot see any other reason for such negativity about it
Most people are happy and excited about the update, so let people be happy, there doesn't always have to be a downer on everything! I was sceptical at first, when I heard that there would be no storage in housing, but now I have tried it out, I love it, its fun and new and exciting! Just be happy that your characters can have a home now, something that people have been asking for since the start of the game, there is no need to be so negative about it, just love it
If this continues down the same road as Swtor did, which it is right now and going to they're will be no more content basically in the future. Look at the last content which Swtor put out 2 Single player Chapters which take about 1 hour to beat each nearly, no new raids, no new instances for 2 years.
My honest opinion is that everyone is being a little melodramatic about something which affects nobody in any way, apart from making (obviously not all) people happy
True, but it just seems like ESO is taking a turn for the worst imo. Most of the recent content has been off the Crown shop hasn't it ?
Update 12 (1T) free massive base game change.
Update 13 (Homestead) free base game content.
It's content whether or not it's content you want.
ESO seems to have a player base that views everything through rose colored glasses.0 -
Damianos✭✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »
You get a free house by doing the quest, and if you can't afford 11k for the next size house... I recommend participating in stealing. You can earn enough for one house in just a few hours.0 -
JD2013✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Can't wait until the Update 14 announcement and PTS.
Join us in April for the next chapter of "Pitchforks and outrage because this isn't what I personally wanted!"
Housing could certainly use some more functionality. But they do, like all businesses, have deadlines. These new things don't magically appear.
@JD2013
I understand this friend.... But they basically implied on ESO live that housing will be cosmetic and no... No storage will be added now or ever... That why everyone is upset...
They weren't going to keep going over and updating old content ... Then 1T happened.
There were no plans for RNG boxes ..... we know how that went.
There were no plans to have Vvardenfell in game ... Now there's a map and a ton of datamined stuff.
Plans are changeable.Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »aheck1111_ESO wrote: »It does when ZOS' resources are focused on these things rather than on major bug fixes, server performance improvements, major balancing efforts, actual new content, etc.
If it makes you feel better, its not! Since pts went live, there have been multiple 'bugs' in housing, but zenimax have ignored them, and been concentrating more on the balancing side (Which I agree, is just as, if not more important) than fixing really vital aspects of housing, plus, there would be completely different teams of people working on both, so that is kind of irrelevant anyway, they don't employ the same people to take care of everything, they have teams for each individual area of the game, so the people working on housing would have no impact on those working on performance/balance etc.
Yes, but more cosmetic focus=more staff=more resources diverted into that direction. That's not even accounting for the marketing side getting more resources (again shrinking the slice of gameplay development's pie) since this is all tied to the Crown Store.
Regardless, there will always be the same amount of people working in those areas, despite how many extras they employ into other areas before a large update.
This entire update may be focused on houses, but they seem to be far more interested in the balance side anyway, there is literally no reason for people to be annoyed about housing, it has no impact on anyone, especially if you don't plan on buying a house! I honestly wonder whether some players are just annoyed because they cannot afford to buy a Manor, so they are angry and lashing out at the whole update, I really cannot see any other reason for such negativity about it
Most people are happy and excited about the update, so let people be happy, there doesn't always have to be a downer on everything! I was sceptical at first, when I heard that there would be no storage in housing, but now I have tried it out, I love it, its fun and new and exciting! Just be happy that your characters can have a home now, something that people have been asking for since the start of the game, there is no need to be so negative about it, just love it
If this continues down the same road as Swtor did, which it is right now and going to they're will be no more content basically in the future. Look at the last content which Swtor put out 2 Single player Chapters which take about 1 hour to beat each nearly, no new raids, no new instances for 2 years.
My honest opinion is that everyone is being a little melodramatic about something which affects nobody in any way, apart from making (obviously not all) people happy
True, but it just seems like ESO is taking a turn for the worst imo. Most of the recent content has been off the Crown shop hasn't it ?
Update 12 (1T) free massive base game change.
Update 13 (Homestead) free base game content.
It's content whether or not it's content you want.
ESO seems to have a player base that views everything through rose colored glasses.
You clearly haven't spent much time on these forums
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Cpt_Teemo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »
You get a free house by doing the quest, and if you can't afford 11k for the next size house... I recommend participating in stealing. You can earn enough for one house in just a few hours.
Yeah I quoted back that I went alittle to far on that, just was kind of peeved at how much the top end houses were compared to others.0 -
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✭✭Kyle1983b14_ESO wrote: »aheck1111_ESO wrote: »aheck1111_ESO wrote: »It does when ZOS' resources are focused on these things rather than on major bug fixes, server performance improvements, major balancing efforts, actual new content, etc.
If it makes you feel better, its not! Since pts went live, there have been multiple 'bugs' in housing, but zenimax have ignored them, and been concentrating more on the balancing side (Which I agree, is just as, if not more important) than fixing really vital aspects of housing, plus, there would be completely different teams of people working on both, so that is kind of irrelevant anyway, they don't employ the same people to take care of everything, they have teams for each individual area of the game, so the people working on housing would have no impact on those working on performance/balance etc.
Yes, but more cosmetic focus=more staff=more resources diverted into that direction. That's not even accounting for the marketing side getting more resources (again shrinking the slice of gameplay development's pie) since this is all tied to the Crown Store.
Regardless, there will always be the same amount of people working in those areas, despite how many extras they employ into other areas before a large update.
This entire update may be focused on houses, but they seem to be far more interested in the balance side anyway, there is literally no reason for people to be annoyed about housing, it has no impact on anyone, especially if you don't plan on buying a house! I honestly wonder whether some players are just annoyed because they cannot afford to buy a Manor, so they are angry and lashing out at the whole update, I really cannot see any other reason for such negativity about it
Most people are happy and excited about the update, so let people be happy, there doesn't always have to be a downer on everything! I was sceptical at first, when I heard that there would be no storage in housing, but now I have tried it out, I love it, its fun and new and exciting! Just be happy that your characters can have a home now, something that people have been asking for since the start of the game, there is no need to be so negative about it, just love it
Cheers! Not sure I was negative, just pointing out a potential answer to the question you posed about how cosmetics could affect someone's game. I LOVE this game; have been registered on this forum since September 2013 during closed beta. I am happy about housing, although am disappointed that they are mostly copy/paste versions of the buildings in the game already and the introduction of more grinding for mats.
I just have concerns that the last 6 months have seen a change in the direction of ZOS and fear that the marketing team is driving the bus now that the Crown Store is seeing such price inflation (6000 for a motif??). Cheers and have a great weekend!
I have also been here since beta, and also disagree with things such as crown crates etc. But I also see things like that, just like housing, as a choice... You don't have to buy them if you don't like them! Maybe the game will take a bad turn, and one day the game will die ofc, but for now I am just enjoying it for what it is, and for me, housing is the most exciting update in a long time!
Also, I am glad that housing is more on the cosmetic side, if they added too many benefits, it would be verging on 'pay to win' seeing as people who have too much time to spare or too much money to burn would be at an advantage, and that really would be going in the wrong direction!
True I also like its more cosmetic than a P2W feature, guess alot of us returning players will just have to save up for a couple months to get the mansion I guess.
Meh, the mansions are overrated imo, some of the larger houses are much nicer Sorcerer, Templar, Wolf Collector, Housing Addict!
GM of Salted Wings Tavern and Salted Wings Housing 🏠🌻
'A House is Built with Boards and Beams, a Home is Built with Love and Dreams'
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