Stopnaggin wrote: »
News flash nothing in the crown store is needed to play the game.
But I need to look fabulous!
@Sigtric Yet they are so vastly different. The SWTOR cash shop is infinitely better than ESO's. Now there's an understanding that most cash shops are awful for games. Remember all of the lies from Matt Firor at the pre-launch about how The Elder Scrolls IP is so strong that it sells itself? With that said there's nothing in the game in SWTOR that you can't buy for in-game gold. It has quite the flexibility that favors players. Want to spend your in game credits? Buy it with in-game credits. Want to buy it with actual currency? Buy it with actual currency.
autumnsongbird wrote: »Shad0wfire99 wrote: »Makes post about being angry over vMoL exploit being fixed. Makes new post wanting to buy skin with crowns. Interesting.
PTS going live drives up motif prices to appox. 30k each. 20k is a bargain!
6k crowns for a motif (!) is a terrible precursor to housing. SWTOR (Published by EA) has less of a cash grab than ESO.
Ridiculous.
I agree. Who would have thought that it would only take a month for them to release something in the crown store that made that elk start to look like a bargain? I suspected the elk was the start of higher prices all around, but this is extreme.That's just greedy, plain and simple. I thought 4500 crowns for the elk was pretty bad but I swallowed that toad... but 6000 crowns for a motif? Seriously?
@Sigtric Yet they are so vastly different. The SWTOR cash shop is infinitely better than ESO's. Now there's an understanding that most cash shops are awful for games. Remember all of the lies from Matt Firor at the pre-launch about how The Elder Scrolls IP is so strong that it sells itself? With that said there's nothing in the game in SWTOR that you can't buy for in-game gold. It has quite the flexibility that favors players. Want to spend your in game credits? Buy it with in-game credits. Want to buy it with actual currency? Buy it with actual currency.
Yeah, I've played both and spent money like mad in SWTOR.
"better" is relative though. The fact you could buy store items with cash and then sell them was extremely detrimental to the health of the economy in my opinion. The only way I could make enough credits in game to buy the stuff I wanted from the Auction house was to spend real life money to get random crates that probably didn't have what I wanted in it, and sell that stuff so I could get the cash shop items I did want. It was horrible.
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@Sigtric Yet they are so vastly different. The SWTOR cash shop is infinitely better than ESO's. Now there's an understanding that most cash shops are awful for games. Remember all of the lies from Matt Firor at the pre-launch about how The Elder Scrolls IP is so strong that it sells itself? With that said there's nothing in the game in SWTOR that you can't buy for in-game gold. It has quite the flexibility that favors players. Want to spend your in game credits? Buy it with in-game credits. Want to buy it with actual currency? Buy it with actual currency.
Yeah, I've played both and spent money like mad in SWTOR.
"better" is relative though. The fact you could buy store items with cash and then sell them was extremely detrimental to the health of the economy in my opinion. The only way I could make enough credits in game to buy the stuff I wanted from the Auction house was to spend real life money to get random crates that probably didn't have what I wanted in it, and sell that stuff so I could get the cash shop items I did want. It was horrible.
@Sigtric Your bad experience is due to your inability to make credits in game. In SWTOR, I make a ton of credits selling crafting materials. I've never felt compelled to purchase anything off of their store because I could buy it in game with the credits I already have.
You've heard of "the power creep?" Well, ZOS is infected with something FAR worse:
THE CROWN CREEP.
$$$
I find myself wondering if the high Crown price is in anyway related to subscribers sitting on their monthly Crown stipend.
I mean do folk really fork out real money for stuff, or do they simply use their Crown allowances....because there's not really a lot of use for them otherwise.
Friends don't let friends spend crowns on motifs.
Having said that, the price of this motif is totally in line with the prices of other "exotic" motifs in the crown store, once you take into account the fact that it comes with a small supply of mimic stones.
I would still advise everyone interested in the motif to get it in-game rather than blow crowns on it, however. I mean, all you need to do is run non-vet Maw a few times (preferably with friends who are happy to trade motifs or sell the ones that you need to you for a reasonable price), or search in guild stores (because a lot of the people who run Maw sell the motifs they get).
Yes and no.PurifedBladez wrote: »I find myself wondering if the high Crown price is in anyway related to subscribers sitting on their monthly Crown stipend.
I mean do folk really fork out real money for stuff, or do they simply use their Crown allowances....because there's not really a lot of use for them otherwise.
That's still real money.
Prof_Bawbag wrote: »Friends don't let friends spend crowns on motifs.
Having said that, the price of this motif is totally in line with the prices of other "exotic" motifs in the crown store, once you take into account the fact that it comes with a small supply of mimic stones.
I would still advise everyone interested in the motif to get it in-game rather than blow crowns on it, however. I mean, all you need to do is run non-vet Maw a few times (preferably with friends who are happy to trade motifs or sell the ones that you need to you for a reasonable price), or search in guild stores (because a lot of the people who run Maw sell the motifs they get).
You know things are bad when you could buy gold (to buy those pages in-game) from one of those spamming sites you see in game for less than what ZoS are asking for it. Makes you wonder who the real scammers are.
@Sigtric Yet they are so vastly different. The SWTOR cash shop is infinitely better than ESO's. Now there's an understanding that most cash shops are awful for games. Remember all of the lies from Matt Firor at the pre-launch about how The Elder Scrolls IP is so strong that it sells itself? With that said there's nothing in the game in SWTOR that you can't buy for in-game gold. It has quite the flexibility that favors players. Want to spend your in game credits? Buy it with in-game credits. Want to buy it with actual currency? Buy it with actual currency.
Yeah, I've played both and spent money like mad in SWTOR.
"better" is relative though. The fact you could buy store items with cash and then sell them was extremely detrimental to the health of the economy in my opinion. The only way I could make enough credits in game to buy the stuff I wanted from the Auction house was to spend real life money to get random crates that probably didn't have what I wanted in it, and sell that stuff so I could get the cash shop items I did want. It was horrible.
@Sigtric Your bad experience is due to your inability to make credits in game. In SWTOR, I make a ton of credits selling crafting materials. I've never felt compelled to purchase anything off of their store because I could buy it in game with the credits I already have.
Well sure, that's what makes the experience relative.
That's only one aspect of their cash shop as well. The entire thing was designed to nickle and dime players for QoL improvements or even access to much needed UI features, and in many cases even as a subbed player you still had to obtain things from it in one way or another.
There's quite a few reasons that even as recent as within the last couple months, Massively and other gaming news and commentary sites are listing SWTORs cash shop as how NOT to do it.
I'm glad it worked for you.
I'm glad that it's so expensive. Maybe it'll motivate players to actually go and earn it.
If ZOS want to sell motifs in the Crown Store then whatever, but I don't think they should do it with existing styles that people have already worked their arses off to acquire.
I find myself wondering if the high Crown price is in anyway related to subscribers sitting on their monthly Crown stipend.
I mean do folk really fork out real money for stuff, or do they simply use their Crown allowances....because there's not really a lot of use for them otherwise.
Prof_Bawbag wrote: »I'm glad that it's so expensive. Maybe it'll motivate players to actually go and earn it.
If ZOS want to sell motifs in the Crown Store then whatever, but I don't think they should do it with existing styles that people have already worked their arses off to acquire.
Yup, me doing nMOL and buying the rest for around 8-12k each was a real ball breaker. I have to go for a lie down now after all that tough graft.